Originally posted by nicurnc
Sorry not to let this issue die, but I can't get over how many folks are trashing Delta. Several retired military friends work for
Delta, it's about as good as any airline out there. As one of the only two carriers in my town, I fly with them lots and have not personally had any problems with them."
** Okay- if so many people are "trashing" Delta with thier own stories of ill treatment or inconvenience MAYBE Delta does have a problem. All these people trashing Delta, as you put it , can't be wrong. If they are as good as any other then they are all performing poorly I say. I have said more then a few times here that my issue is not solely with delta- I see this as an industry wide issue that needs to be addressed. What other business can you sell a commodity that you do not have- such as unavailable seats on the airplanes? And in any job I have ever had you either treated the customer with respect or you got treated to a pink slip.Just as you have not had any problems with Delta I have, therefore thiers is the name I mention.**
"Alexturner24- thanks for being the voice of reason!"
** I don't think I am being unreasonable. Not a bit. This is a foolhardy and potentially dangerous practice that should not be allowed. Do you think it is safe for teens to be left over night in a hotel room?? I don't. **
"Jeanne434- here's my take on all of this. You decide to leave your oldest daughter behind a day so she can attend her prom and the rest of you don't have to miss your cruise."
** Here's the rest of the story- we won this cruise- a trip for four including airfare. Our airfare was included in the package. DD's was not. Since we had to purchase her flight seperately anyways we decided to let her stay behind that night for her prom. Thats why the decision was made the way it was.**
"You spent an anxious day on the dock wondering if she would even make it on time or risk sailing without her. Then as luck would have it, your daughter manages to get bumped going home. Coincidence....hmmmm."
** If not coincidence then what?? I am missing your point here.**
Anyway, then you spent another night worried about her whereabouts...any parents nightmare. I can speak from experience...been there, done that.
"Now you are crazed that the airline dare treat your child like that! "
** I am not crazed. I am concerned> i repeat again- this is NOT about my daughter. She made it home safely and all told handled herself quite well in a stressful situation. I am proud of her maturity and the fact that she stood up for herself when push came to shove. The fact that I keep responding to these posts is not due to the fact that I am "crazed" (although I must admit that being called crazed does make me a little irritated!) I am responding to start a dialogue, maybe alert parents of future travelling teens to what could happen. I think this is healthy and I feel rather obliged to clarify my position.**
"Hello! Airline!... Not mom! Not parents! NO ONE will watch out for your child like you would watch out for your child!
The airline treated your daughter like she was adult because YOU TREATED HER LIKE SHE WAS AN ADULT! You let her fly alone! Did you not stop to consider all the what-ifs before you allowed her to get on that plane?"
** Again, I did not expect the airlines to babysit my teen. Perhaps i was naiive but I did expect COMMON SENSE, and common sense tells me LOUD AND CLEAR that leaving a teen overnight in a hotel room overnight is not a good idea! I eould never in a million years imagine ,among the many what ifs I thought of before allowing her embark on this trip, never did I think an airline would act in such risky manner, I would have thought they would be more concerned with protecting themselves even if they were not concerned with my daughter. If you ask me it is just dumb- like a no brainer. Delta ought to be protecting themselves better then this. I am stunned by thier failure to not have regulations in place re: this. In the school I work in we are not even allowed to let a high school student walk home from school early without parental notification or permission. Do you honestly think this is good policy??**
"Our children are our most precious possesions. Entrusted to us for a short amount of time, during which we hopefully teach them how to handle the curves life can throw us. Your daughter was not up to this challenge of adulthood (teary, meltdown,etc). "
**I am well aware of what precious people our children are. More so then I care to go into or then you will ever know. But thanks for the reminder...why do you think I am doing all this?? It is to try to protect these kids from the lack of regulations regarding this matter. And I have attempted to teach my children to handle problems. I think my daughter handled things pretty dang well considering. After a week of late nights and cruising fun I am sure many of us perfectly mature and reasonable adults would have melted down at less. **
"And you had the pants scared off you by what could have happened."
** My pants are not scared off at all. I have been moved to act upon something I see as a serious problem. That's all. **
" It has to be somebodies fault, but certainly not yours. Let's bash the airline, let's go after the FAA. But let's not think that we may have had some part in this fiasco."
** As for responsibilty and personal accountability you are preaching to the choir here. Noone is bigger on this then I. I hold my children and MYSELF accountable for our choices and actions. I am not suing delta for crying out loud, I am trying to get some regulations in place to avoid this sort of thing in the future. Fiasco?? hmmmm I wouldn't call it that. Perhaps responsible citizenship as a result of my awakening to an issue I never would have thought this would be allowed to happen. I just thought the industry was wiser I suppose. **
"Take it to the top, I'm sure you'll do just that. But take a look at you own actions in this, as well. And be sure you know what your kids reaction will be before you let them go off on such an adventure by themselves."
**It will be taken to the top. I feel I would be negligent if I didn't. I have a few questions for you if you wouldn't mind- I am really trying to understand your take on this whole thing-
1. Do you really think it should be allowed to bump teens overnight?
2. Do you not think that the airline acted foolishly in doing this? Don't you think they should be at the least concerned with thier own personal liability if not concerbned with the well being of the bumped teens?
3. If it is illegal for a hotel to rent a room to a minor should it be legal for Delta to book one for them?
4. If someone has to be bumped don't you think it should be an adult. A legally accountable person? Someone who can have a credit card and has some life experience?
5. How detailed should a parent be when looking into the safety of teens travelling alone? As I said, I never would have thought that Delta would have bumped an unaccompianied minor- should I also assure that they won't let her open the doors, or drink alchohol or be molested onboard- I just thought that certain things would be a given- certain safety issues that are just common sense.
6. Would you feel comfortable booking a room for your minor in a hotel alone? Now how would you feel about booking one for someone else teen? Not me- never- especially without parental consent or knowledge.
I do appreciate your input-really- I am called to action as they say and the debate is preparing me I am sure!
Loretta