HE washer question

coastiewifern

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So I've done some research. It appears the consensus is the front loaders are more efficient and clean better than the top loader HE machines. HOWEVER there is that problem with the mildew in the front loaders. That is a BIG concern. People say you must leave the washer door open. Well my laundry room is in a place where that would be difficult. Your enter our home from the attached garage right into the laundry room and then into the kitchen. I can't imagine if a washer door was sticking out that people could easily pass. Is there a trick to how I keep it all the way back? Maybe a magnet or something? Would love to hear how you handle that and if you agree the frontHE cleans better than the topHE. Any opinions or advice is appreciated.
BTW my main goals in a new washer
1. less time to wash/dry a load
2. decreased water and energy consumption
My washer is 18 years old super noisy and uses a ton of water
 
If you use bleach periodically, that will help on the mildew. Also the door doesn't need to be wide open. You can just pretty much close it almost all the way and not latch it and air will circulate. Mine is 8 years old and I haven't had an issue.

It does really wring the clothes out, so drying time is shorter.
 
Just a thought--could you use a bunch of flat magnets in a stack to give yourself a spacer that you could attach to the inside of the door frame so that the door can't close?
 
My Duet is several years old now and I've never had a mildew odor problem. I use bleach for towels regularly and leave my door slightly ajar. If I think about it I will occasionally run an Assure tablet. My laundry room in odd, two entry doors on adjacent walls, so i never leve the door open all the way.
 

My mom either keeps her door all the way open (it opens to a 180deg angle, so it's flat up against the cabinet next to it), puts a dishtowel in it to keep it open a bit, or if she has company and doesn't really want it open she simply doesn't latch the door like another poster said.

She has a Bosch set and is really not happy with it. The mold is a constant issue and my mom has OCD so I know she cleans it more than most people. She never closes the door unless it's running, but it still gets moldy. It also takes about two hours to wash one load. My crappy old top-loader only takes maybe 30mins for the biggest cycle (which I think holds more clothes than hers).



DH built a new laundry room next to our new kitchen, so we ordered a Samsung set on Black Friday. Still waiting for them to come in... :sad2:
 
Just wanted to let you know that some washers have a small tube that lets you release water that builds up in the bottom of the machine. I have to clean mine every week. My washer is not on a pedestal so I have to lay an old towel on the floor and let the dirty water run on to it. I also leave the door ajar. I dry the inner seal/gasket when I am done my laundry. I run a bleach and hot water cycle once a week(without clothes). I also use white vinegar as rinse. I have also on occasion bought the washer cleaning product. Keeping my washer clean is a lot of work!! And believe it or not, even with all the stuff I do, I still have some black mildew spots on the bottom of the seal.

I can't really tell you if my clothes are cleaner than my old top loading HE model. I don't really notice a huge difference. They are definitely NOT cleaner than my Pre- HE washer. That agitator really got clothes clean! I DO use less water. Cycles DO take much LONGER and the quick cycle on my washer is useless. I have used it when we needed sports uniforms by the next morning and they were not clean(still smelly) I also should mention that I had to go out and buy a big bucket for pre-soaking football pants and other sports gear because you can't pre-treat and pre-soak items in my washer. I will admit that I have 4 sports playing men at my house so clothes are smelly and dirty. BUT, my front loader does not make laundry easier or cleaner, just less costly when it comes to water and maybe less costly as you use less detergent.
 
I can't really tell you if my clothes are cleaner than my old top loading HE model. I don't really notice a huge difference. They are definitely NOT cleaner than my Pre- HE washer. That agitator really got clothes clean! I DO use less water. Cycles DO take much LONGER and the quick cycle on my washer is useless. I have used it when we needed sports uniforms by the next morning and they were not clean(still smelly) I also should mention that I had to go out and buy a big bucket for pre-soaking football pants and other sports gear because you can't pre-treat and pre-soak items in my washer. I will admit that I have 4 sports playing men at my house so clothes are smelly and dirty. BUT, my front loader does not make laundry easier or cleaner, just less costly when it comes to water and maybe less costly as you use less detergent.

This is totally OT, but have you tried the Tide Sport detergent? It is a little more expensive, but it has saved me. I have smelly soccer players and was having the same problem with the sports gear, but this detergent does the trick in my HE washer.
 
The wash time takes longer on mine, but the clothes are very clean, and almost dry when I take them out. The time in the dryer is very short with this washer. I don't leave the door wide open because my washer is in the kitchen, I just don't latch it. I have not had a mold problem and have had the washer for a little over a year.
 
I have had my front loaders for 2.5 years and have never had a problem with mold. I was concerned about that too when I first got mine. After I am done washing all the laundry, I just leave it open overnight to let it dry and then close it in the morning.

I have a similar situation to yours. My laundry room is right by the garage door entry and it also doubles as the kids' computer room area so having it open does get in the way, but I just close it while everyone is bustling around the area and leave it open either when nobody is home or overnight (which is generally when laundry finishes up anyway). I don't do laundry everyday so once or twice a week is not a problem.

Enjoy your new laundry set!

Here's my set up...it's a Samsung set BTW...

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Looks like I am the dissenting voice here. I have had 2 front load HE washers (Whirlpool and Samsung) in the last 6 years and I will never buy another. The Samsung is better, but still not great. The mildew in the Whirlpool was AWFUL.
In our last move, we ended up in an apartment for 6 weeks between houses and I used the in-unit el cheapo washing machine. It washed just as well and so much faster. That's what I will be buying next! Sure, I'll use more water, but at this point, I don't care.

Do investigate the full wash/dry time. It can take over an hour to wash and then nearly that to dry. Oh man, do I miss the cheap apartment washer!
 
I have a GE and no mildew problems, but mine is in the basement so I leave the door open all the time, plus I dry out the front gasket (well, most of the time). I do have a basket clean cycle too, you pour in a half cup of bleach and it runs for a while with hot water. I think I'm supposed to do that once a month or so, but I think I've only done it once in the 9 months I've had the machine.

I don't know about cleaner, my old top loader did a pretty good job. But the clothes come out almost dry so drying time is shorter, and much less lint in the dryer trap so it's not as much wear-and-tear on my clothing, which means my clothes will hold up and last longer. Also, I love the high capacity!

So far I'm very happy with my purchase, especially since we got such a good deal, we bought a floor model for more than 50% off regular price and all it had wrong with it was a few minor scratches.
 
Just wanted to let you know that some washers have a small tube that lets you release water that builds up in the bottom of the machine. I have to clean mine every week. My washer is not on a pedestal so I have to lay an old towel on the floor and let the dirty water run on to it. I also leave the door ajar. I dry the inner seal/gasket when I am done my laundry. I run a bleach and hot water cycle once a week(without clothes). I also use white vinegar as rinse. I have also on occasion bought the washer cleaning product. Keeping my washer clean is a lot of work!! And believe it or not, even with all the stuff I do, I still have some black mildew spots on the bottom of the seal.

I can't really tell you if my clothes are cleaner than my old top loading HE model. I don't really notice a huge difference. They are definitely NOT cleaner than my Pre- HE washer. That agitator really got clothes clean! I DO use less water. Cycles DO take much LONGER and the quick cycle on my washer is useless. I have used it when we needed sports uniforms by the next morning and they were not clean(still smelly) I also should mention that I had to go out and buy a big bucket for pre-soaking football pants and other sports gear because you can't pre-treat and pre-soak items in my washer. I will admit that I have 4 sports playing men at my house so clothes are smelly and dirty. BUT, my front loader does not make laundry easier or cleaner, just less costly when it comes to water and maybe less costly as you use less detergent.

Wow that sounds like a lot of maintenance work. UGH
 
I have owned my HE washer & dryer for over 2 years now and I LOVE them. I have the LG WM3875HWCA (washer) and DLEX3875W (dryer). As far as maintenance goes, after a load in the washer, I do leave the door wide open as well as the detergent drawer open temporarily -- usually only while I have clothes drying. The model I have has a built-in magnet that allows you to close the door without latching it so air can circulate but you won't have to have it wide open. After my last wet load I take a dry microfiber cloth to dry off the inside glass (only because I don't want water spots). I also quickly dry the rubber gasket which literally takes 10 seconds. Every 2 months I use an Affresh tablet to clean the machine on the tub clean cycle. In addition to that, I do one bleach load every week (bed sheets and bath towels), but I don't really have to do anything special to keep it clean.

Now, there ARE downsides to HE washers.

The washing cycles take way longer -- they use less water, therefore need to have longer cycles for the clothes to get clean. The cycle I use most frequently takes an hour for normal clothes (cold water). If you do the Allergiene cycle or Sanitary cycle, like for bedding or pet blankets, you're looking at over 1 1/2 hours. It uses steam.

Note that drying time is WAY less, though. The clothes are less damp from the washing cycle so they dry faster. My dryer has 2 sensors in it that detect if the items are dry yet, and will shut off once they're dry so you don't waste electricity over drying clothes. I love it.

My whites do not come out as white with an HE washer because there is no soak cycle. My whites are still white, but not quite as white. I don't mind. The rest of the clothes are noticeably cleaner, and I use less detergent. Of course I use the HE detergent, but you can use much less than what the bottle says.

We noticed a HUGE drop in our water and energy consumption right away, and the old units we had weren't even 10 years old I don't think (they came with the house when we bought it).

Oh, one nice thing, at least with the model I have, you don't have to rebalance a load, the washer is self-balancing and will adjust the drum on its own! I used to get so mad when I would do a load of towels or bedding and several hours later I'd remember I had laundry to finish only to find out the stupid washer shut off because it was imbalanced!

I highly recommend the exact models I have. I don't know what your price range is, but they are so worth it. LG has very few repairs.

And, a few more highlights about my machines, when you put your laundry in the washer, it will weigh it and tell you how large your load is so you add the correct amount of detergent. Mine literally holds twice as much as my previous "king-size capacity" washer. It also has an option for wash-optimizer, where if you may have put too much or too little detergent in, it will adjust accordingly and either use less water or more water so the balance of detergent-to-water is correct. The dryer also tells you if there is a blockage in the ductwork/vent. All I can say is, these things are amazing!
 
We've had the Whirlpool Duet for 5 years and never had a mildew issue. We never leave the door fully opened, ajar yes, but never fully opened. We do open the compartment where you put detergent after every wash though. I read somewhere years ago that keeping that closed may cause some mildew issues.

We also periodically run a sanitizing cycle with bleach (per instructions in the manual) and again, have never had any problems.

We find the wash times to be similar to our old top-loader but drying times are significantly less.
 
I have a Maytag and have had it for the last 4 years. I love it, just can't remember for the life of me what the series is that we bought.

Our laundry room situation sounds very similar. My Laundry "closet" is in a hallway right off of my garage, and into my kitchen. I have never had a problem with mildew and I never use bleach. I do leave it open after each load, however with the small area I have to work with, I don't open it all the way back. I leave it open just enough that it's ajar and air can get in, but that I can still close the "closet" doors and no one sees it. That has been enough to keep mine clean. No other maintenance needed.

I absolutely love my machines. Yes, they do take longer to wash, shorter to dry though. Less wear and tear on the clothes though and the large drum is so nice to be able to put quilts into.

Hope this helps!
 
Wow that sounds like a lot of maintenance work. UGH

I agree! I don't do ANY of that stuff. My Samsungs come with a tube to release the water and clean out the filters but I've done it ONCE in the two and a half years I've had them.

Sometimes I use vinegar in the wash to rinse the clothes anyway so I figure it is doing double duty. OP, I have never had an issue with mildew and the only thing I do is leave it open to dry when we are done.

Don't be scuuured! ;)
 
About 1 1/2 yrs ago we purchase the Electrolux Perfect Steam front load washer and dryer. :love: :love: :love: them!!

The clothes definately seem to clean better and the dryer is super fast.

We use the deep clean/sanitize cycle all the time for bed linens and towels.

As far as maintenance, every time I am done with my washing for the day, I wipe down the inside of the door and the rubber gasket. I do leave the washer door open overnight, but we have a big laundry closet that enables me to do that and shut the door to the room. I also leave the dispenser door open. I lock both machines so little ones cant turn them on if I have the laundry room door open while putting clothes away. I also do the "system clean" cycle whenever the machine alerts me. I think its something like every 60 washes.
 
Had a Kenmore Front Loader for 11 years and no problems, no odors, no nothing negative. I just bought a Samsung Front Loader (wanted a bigger capacity for comforters, etc) and just love it. Like others have said, just fold a towel or cloth and keep the door open a crack and it will air out just find. Mine too is in a traffic area so can not stay wide open. It takes less water and gets the clothes very clean, less wear & tear on them, plus spins them dryer - love it. It also takes less electricity to dry because they come out so dry from washer. My DH & I shopped around, asking several appliance stores in our area what was their best FL washer regardless of price and everyone without hesitation said the Samsung. About 6 months ago we did the same thing with a refrigerator and was told the same thing, so we bought a Samsung refrig. too. We got the 4 door one and love it. Good Luck ;) Forgot to say that mine also has steam (which I haven't used) and a quick overnight wash and dry for a must have forgotten item for the morning - don't know how it does it, but it dries too!!!!
 
I am trying not to be scuuuuuuured. Lol! I've heard from sales people that Samsung and lg are the best ( at a store where they didn't sell either). We have allergies so I'm really interested in the steam/sanitize cycles
 
So I've done some research. It appears the consensus is the front loaders are more efficient and clean better than the top loader HE machines. HOWEVER there is that problem with the mildew in the front loaders. That is a BIG concern. People say you must leave the washer door open. Well my laundry room is in a place where that would be difficult. Your enter our home from the attached garage right into the laundry room and then into the kitchen. I can't imagine if a washer door was sticking out that people could easily pass. Is there a trick to how I keep it all the way back? Maybe a magnet or something? Would love to hear how you handle that and if you agree the frontHE cleans better than the topHE. Any opinions or advice is appreciated.
BTW my main goals in a new washer
1. less time to wash/dry a load
2. decreased water and energy consumption
My washer is 18 years old super noisy and uses a ton of water

I have a top load HE washer that is about 6 years old. It's an Oasis. I can't compare it to a front load because I've never had one. My clothes come out clean with no probs and I use very little laundry soap and wash on cold (except towels, sheets, and underwear, I wash hot/cold and use bleach). The machine also has sensors to tell how full the load is and it adjusts the time and water level accordingly.

We did have one problem with it, after it was one month out of standard warranty the electronic panel broke. That would have been a pretty pricey repair, but DH is pretty good with stuff like that, so he just ordered a $40 part, and found some info online and fixed it himself and it has worked without incident since!
 














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