Have you ever had a shock?

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Never presume because someone can stand, walk or lift, that they are not in need of that chair.

For almost a decade I went to WDW with pain in my right hip from arthritis. Finally last June after a visit to WDW where the pain was too great I went home and had a total hip replacement. I now can walk with the best of them but before I often thought about a wheelchair or EV. I never did because of fear of the similiar comments listed in this thread.

I am glad that I can again enjoy the parks but my solution does not work for everyone. Do not assume that everyone does not need these devices even if they appear to not need them.

 

[thptrek]

I think if I every would use a leash on my kids I would make sure that it was a dog collar with big metal spikes.

 

[Dopey420]

Standing in line for the Motor Speedway ride (which is totally lame and pollutes like crazy), I saw a little boy around 3 years old, whip it out and pee on a guy's leg. The look on the guy's face was priceless.

 

[Dopey420]

We are just back and had three shocks, one of them a funny one.

The weirdest shock was while waiting for the back seat on BTMRR. There were three boys, their dad, and what appeared to be dad's new "Trophy" girlfriend. She was a real knockout. She was interacting with the boys in a strange way and finally looks at the youngest boy who looked about 12 and says to him " Slip me some tongue ". She grabs his face and then kisses him passionately for about four or five seconds. They all were laughing about it as they got on the ride, while I was glad my DS was looking the other way so I wouldn't have to try and explain that one to him!

Whoa! Step-Mom of the Year!!!

 

[Dopey420]

i think one's adversions to a kiddie leash is directly proportionate to how fast the little one runs..my eldest disappeared in a flash , i didn't use one for her, but almost 30 yrs ago you didn't have to be quite so afraid of pedophiles etc..with grandbaby, also a sprinter and even worse a hider , daughter and i were just discussing getting one since i can't run as fast anymore and the alternative is not a pretty thought... so i might be on this thread..."nasty old woman had kid on a leash" in a few months

There were just as many pedophiles 30 years ago. We just did not have the Internet and all this media to publicize it.

 

[mommystieg]

I don't care how great "Wishes" are I will NEVER try to exit after the fireworks the whole crowd thing was really ugly and not at all magical.

ITA!! Our least magical memories involve leaving the Magic Kingdom after Wishes. Very frightening experience

 

[gssmks]

ITA!! Our least magical memories involve leaving the Magic Kingdom after Wishes. Very frightening experience

You're not joking. We did this one time, and one time only. It was so bad, we finally managed to get all the way to the right on Main Street and when we reached the end we sat down on a bench and watch everyone go by. Once most of the poeple where out of the park, we got up and went on to the bus. We were in the main back of the line, back where there really was no line, for the bus but we were just happy to be alive. When we finally got on a bus, there were probably just enough people left for one last bus in the line. I vowed that I would never stay for closing again. We are now planning to do it, but not at official closing. We are going in Dec., and are planning to stay to the closing of a 3:00 a.m. EMH just to be able to say that we stayed in the park that long and partial to see if we will even be able to make ourselves stay that long. I know, we must really like punishing ourselves.

 

[Magic Carpet]

Exiting MK after wishes is crazy. It helps to cut through the emporium (starts at casey's all the way to the main entrance of the emporium, unless you have strollers/wheelchairs (that could be a problem). Also, I understand some people have needs (wheelchair/ecv). What I do not understand is why they can be led to the front of the line of rides/buses. How come they cannot wait like the rest of us? Also, I remember one time in college there was this handicap parking space right in front of my building (pop century). A remember a girl parking in the space with a decal/hangtag & everything. She however exited her veh & started to rollerblade down the street. Can someone explain that one to me?

 

[Talking Hands]

My oldest daughter actually did this at Ft Wilderness. She caught a duck and brought it to show me. I even have a pciture of her and the duck. I then had her release it and it waddled away.

 

[Tony Toon]

We have exited after Wishes and agree with everything that folk have said. Fortunately we are a tall family with older teenagers but I would hate to be caught up in it with small children. Even worse - MUCH worse - is exiting after the 4th July MK celebrations. Unbelievable! Disney transport work manfully to keep everything moving but the term "herding cattle" comes to mind. ..... oh, we're doing it again (4th July) in a few weeks - Oh Joy!

 

[Goobergal99]

Exiting MK after wishes is crazy. It helps to cut through the emporium (starts at casey's all the way to the main entrance of the emporium, unless you have strollers/wheelchairs (that could be a problem). Also, I understand some people have needs (wheelchair/ecv). What I do not understand is why they can be led to the front of the line of rides/buses. How come they cannot wait like the rest of us? Also, I remember one time in college there was this handicap parking space right in front of my building (pop century). A remember a girl parking in the space with a decal/hangtag & everything. She however exited her veh & started to rollerblade down the street. Can someone explain that one to me?

Probably had a parent who was disabled. I often laugh b/c my pop-pop had his finger blown off in world war two and he has a disabled vet license plate as a result. So he can park in the handicap spaces. Mind you he is 81 and has survived heart surgery so he does have trouble doing alot of walking. But really, does someone with a finger injury really need a handicap sticker. I mean he's my POP and I love him but honestly

 

[carone0318]

Exiting MK after wishes is crazy. It helps to cut through the emporium (starts at casey's all the way to the main entrance of the emporium, unless you have strollers/wheelchairs (that could be a problem). Also, I understand some people have needs (wheelchair/ecv). What I do not understand is why they can be led to the front of the line of rides/buses. How come they cannot wait like the rest of us? Also, I remember one time in college there was this handicap parking space right in front of my building (pop century). A remember a girl parking in the space with a decal/hangtag & everything. She however exited her veh & started to rollerblade down the street. Can someone explain that one to me?

As others have said, you can't judge a book by it's cover. My MIL is one of those people. She has the handicap plackard and also used an ECV while we were at Disney, she could walk, but not for an extended period of time. You really couldn't tell there was anything wrong with her being a stranger and catching a first glance, but if you got a hold of her medical records you would see that she is a walking/riding medical disaster, leading her charts is MS with an additional lengthy list to follow. She has good days and bad. I try to keep this perspective when I see others that seem like they are abusing a priviledge, but hey what do I really know about them.

 

[rgribik]

Mikymouse:

don't worry about MQuara, they were just looking to pounce on someone.
To see the guy pick his chair up would have been a shock! That's all I took you to say. My family would have been shocked to see that also, and yes we do understand about hidden illness. I have seen many shocking things at Dis and I guess we all think things should just be perfect and magical at Dis, but the sad truth is most people have the attitude that "I paid my money, I have the right to do whatever I want".

 

[tampafan]

Once while waiting in line for Space Mountain with my son, we witnessed a man throw an absolute FIT over his son not being tall engouh to ride. When they measured him, he was OBVIOUSLY not tall enough. The man berated all the cast members for several minutes, holding up the line. Quickly a manager came on the scene. The man proceded to tell them how rude the cast members were. He then THREW his son under two rows of chains towards the exits. I told the manger that all the cast members were very professional. My son still talks about this years later.

 

[a*lil*bit*goofy]

Exiting MK after wishes is crazy. It helps to cut through the emporium (starts at casey's all the way to the main entrance of the emporium, unless you have strollers/wheelchairs (that could be a problem). Also, I understand some people have needs (wheelchair/ecv). What I do not understand is why they can be led to the front of the line of rides/buses. How come they cannot wait like the rest of us? Also, I remember one time in college there was this handicap parking space right in front of my building (pop century). A remember a girl parking in the space with a decal/hangtag & everything. She however exited her veh & started to rollerblade down the street. Can someone explain that one to me?

I agree. there are people who "ruin it" so to speak for others. Take advantage, if you will. And I get really mad when it happens because there are people who DO need the conveniences for medical reasons.

My father in law would drive his dad around (when his dad was alive) and Grandpa was quite ill and had a handicap tag for the car. My FIL would use it when he drove Grandpa in law around...of course! That is who it was for. (the permit) . HOWEVER. I also saw him USING THE SPOTS and taking advantage of the permit when Grandpa in law WASN"T with him. And even after he DIED (there was still time left before expiration/renewal) I got really mad about this, and said "God forbid someone take up spots/conveniences when you are in need, and they don't need it...they are just using it for convenience"

Needless to say that he did stop. Finally.

I all all for the conveniences, but I too would still find it shocking to see what the OP saw, esp if i had waited for a half hour andm issed out because person and family were allowed to walk up and board.

Not saying its right. Not saying its wrong either. Just saying that I too would be shocked , esp after a long day!

 

[gssmks]

I will admit that I too would have been shocked to see him get up and left his own wheelchair. I fully understand and even know people who use wheelchairs to help them manage a full weeks vacation in the parks,who are able to get around perfectly fine during normal every day activities at home. I think anyone who has ever been to WDW knows that the amount of walking and standing at one day in WDW exceeds what most of us do in an average week at home. I have absolutely no problem with those who feel they need a wheelchair, bringing or renting a wheelchair.

Yet, everyone on this thread has to admit that there are people who abuse the privileges that go along with the need to use a wheelchair. For instance, why should they, and their entire party, get to skip a line to get on first if the waiting area is big enough to accomodate the chair?

My DD has Arnold Chiari Malformation Type II. It is a rare condition, so to make the explanation very short, this is a neurological condition which has as symptoms weaking of the muscles and fatigue upon exertion. I was told that if I had a form completed by her doctor, we could move to the front of the lines. I did not do this. First, she will be living with this condition her entire life. She needs to learn to pace herself so that she does not exhaust herself. She needs to learn what her limits are because she will not always be someplace where she will get to skip to the front of the line. Second, it would not be fair to all those people who have waited so long if we just walked right up and got on with no wait at all. I did rent her a stroller although she was much too big for it so that we were guaranteed that she would have a sit when she needed one. Also, she sat in it during parades and the castle stage show, etc. On our next trip, I will probably have to rent her a wheelchair, because there is no way she can use a stroller now. However, I can assure you that we will not use the chair to get out of standing with the rest of you.

Now everyone can go ahead and flame me, but the bottom line is that it may not be my DD's faught that she has a special medical condition, but it's not all those other peoples fault either. Those people don't owe her any special privileges and neither does life. We had to go during off season to avoid the major crowds and we may have taken more breaks than everyone else, but we mananged to ride every ride at WDW, all four parks, and we waited our turn to do it.

 

[MareQ]

Now everyone can go ahead and flame me, but the bottom line is that it may not be my DD's faught that she has a special medical condition, but it's not all those other peoples fault either. Those people don't owe her any special privileges and neither does life. We had to go during off season to avoid the major crowds and we may have taken more breaks than everyone else, but we mananged to ride every ride at WDW, all four parks, and we waited our turn to do it.

Nobody is allowed to bypass lines for rides - getting a GAC only means you can have alternate options for waiting - ie in the shade, in a quiet are etc. The other poster was talking about the bus - wheelchairs are loaded as they arrive as each bus can only hold 2 wheelchairs and they obviously cannot be loaded onto a bus full of people. My BIL got onto the back of the line with his family last trip and the CM's TOLD him to wait in a different area as they needed to load him first..... He didn't ask to be loaded ahead of anybody - that's what he was told he needed to do so he did it.

 

[mikymouse]

What have I started and what have you people done to me. I simply meant that the it was not what I was unexpecting to see.

Now that I have been put in my place it makes me wonder how this is going to effect me in the future... more or less sympanthy for folks with medical conditions. Before this thread I would have had some sympathy for folks in wheelchairs and thought how brave they must be to to Disney with extra challenges and now I have to admit that I will be thinking to myself well just get up and lift your darn wheelchair. Go ahead now.... I am totally use to getting blasted my unknown internet posters.

So should we all wait in line or should there be a priority line rotation ... Disney could hand out color buttons and rank you place in line based on mental or physical challenges. Limited mobility folks could get a green button and folks dying of breast cancer could get a pink button and folks that were having their babies shipped off to war could get a blue button, etc... Only Disney would have to fiqure out which color deserved to go first or second or third.

IMHO if you are lucky enough to have the resources and determination to get to WDW then you should wait in line for the stinking bus after fireworks. You won't see me in those lines I will be hiding in the back of the park afraid to move. Gawd blast you folks and your darn discussion boards!

 

[a*lil*bit*goofy]

I will admit that I too would have been shocked to see him get up and left his own wheelchair. I fully understand and even know people who use wheelchairs to help them manage a full weeks vacation in the parks,who are able to get around perfectly fine during normal every day activities at home. I think anyone who has ever been to WDW knows that the amount of walking and standing at one day in WDW exceeds what most of us do in an average week at home. I have absolutely no problem with those who feel they need a wheelchair, bringing or renting a wheelchair.

Yet, everyone on this thread has to admit that there are people who abuse the privileges that go along with the need to use a wheelchair. For instance, why should they, and their entire party, get to skip a line to get on first if the waiting area is big enough to accomodate the chair?

My DD has Arnold Chiari Malformation Type II. It is a rare condition, so to make the explanation very short, this is a neurological condition which has as symptoms weaking of the muscles and fatigue upon exertion. I was told that if I had a form completed by her doctor, we could move to the front of the lines. I did not do this. First, she will be living with this condition her entire life. She needs to learn to pace herself so that she does not exhaust herself. She needs to learn what her limits are because she will not always be someplace where she will get to skip to the front of the line. Second, it would not be fair to all those people who have waited so long if we just walked right up and got on with no wait at all. I did rent her a stroller although she was much too big for it so that we were guaranteed that she would have a sit when she needed one. Also, she sat in it during parades and the castle stage show, etc. On our next trip, I will probably have to rent her a wheelchair, because there is no way she can use a stroller now. However, I can assure you that we will not use the chair to get out of standing with the rest of you.

Now everyone can go ahead and flame me, but the bottom line is that it may not be my DD's faught that she has a special medical condition, but it's not all those other peoples fault either. Those people don't owe her any special privileges and neither does life. We had to go during off season to avoid the major crowds and we may have taken more breaks than everyone else, but we mananged to ride every ride at WDW, all four parks, and we waited our turn to do it.

I think that you have a wonderful outlook! Life lessons, no exceptions. What a wonderful way of ensuring more "normalcy" (i don't like that word but its too early for me to think of a better one)

I have friends with a child who has a serious life threatening disease, she needs to be in a wheel chair with a brace to keep her sitting up right so that she can breathe easier! ANYWAY they have the same attack at life as you.

Enjoy your family.

 

[MareQ]

So should we all wait in line or should there be a priority line rotation ... Disney could hand out color buttons and rank you place in line based on mental or physical challenges. Limited mobility folks could get a green button and folk dying of breast cancer could get a pink button and folks would were having their babies shipped off to war could get a blue button, etc... Only Disney would have to fiqure out which color deserved to go first or second or third.

Absolutely sad that you are THIS angry at ONE person in a wheelchair getting on a bus before you. Maybe you need to think twice about going again if you're going to get all pissy over a guy lifting his own wheelchair onto a bus.