Have you ever had a shock?

[Chicago526]

For those that have had problems with people trying to sit in front of them for parades, why do you sit so that there is space in front of you? When DFi and I pick spots, we sit or stand so that there is no way for someone to get in front of us. At MK, for instance, we sit on the curb, for someone to sit in front of us, they'd have to be IN the street (not just their legs sticking out, they'd be 100% out there) and a CM would HAVE to shoo them a way. At Epcot, we are right on the railing, the only way to get in front of us is to shove us out of the way, and that's not likely to happen.

I know having kids and strollers can be a challenge, but there must be some way to arrange yourselves so that it isn't a problem.

I can see how saving an actual spot for someone (a spouse that went to grab snacks or took a child to the restroom) could be a challenge and I completely sympathise, but I've never gotten how people can squeeze in front of you when you already have a front row seat unless you leave a huge honking gap. Of course, not that you should have to, people should have better manners to begin with, but since they don't, an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.

Just my opinion!

 

[Cannot_Wait_4Disney]

First of all, yes the fat cow was blocking the view of both of my small sons' view.

Second, if you, and others, have to ask and roll your eyes, I guess she was not the only one whose momma did a poor job of teaching lessons in polite manners in public! I mean really, to come in at the last minute and plop down in front of children and think it is ok to block their view!

Third, if she didn't like the wheels bumping her, she could always take her two children and so somewhere else.

I'm curious. Is using the term "fat cow" to describe those who are overweight polite manners?
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On to the subject of the thread. This has no relation to the quote above or the response:

I guess my shocker is just the amount of people that are me first, whatever I want, eff everyone else these days. And ironically, these are usually the first to throw stones at even minor accidental transgressions, then turn around and make those of their own and blow em off or blaming those that call them on it for calling them on it.
Or maybe my shocker is I'm no longer shocked by this type of behavior.
Not much of a shocker, but after reading for two weeks, I just got itchy typing trigger fingers.

I must say this thread has been enjoying to read. Some sad, some very funny, others really wierd. This thread actually worries me. I'm going with a type of person that is bound to make our group a subject in this thread at least twice.

 

[disneyaggie]

I'm curious. Is using the term "fat cow" to describe those who are overweight polite manners?

Yes, it is polite.

I know of many Pooh-sized people who are wonderful. They are respectful and polite, just like skinny-minnies!

But some people play their part. Not saying it's necessarily right, but some ask to be called unkind names due to their behavior. I personally think they could have been called a lot worse than fat cow!

Like the big slob who ground out his cigarrette in front of a CM after she politely asked him to not smoke in a non-smoking area. He then proceeded to walk off, leaving her to pick up his nasty butt. I had a suggestion where she (the CM) could hide it, but he had already walked away so that idea became a moot point.

If that had been a skinny person who behaved so badly, I would see nothing wrong with calling her a shrivelled up pip squeek!

Size doesn't matter -- but manners does, no matter how much one weighs.

 

[shatzjsl]

First of all, yes the fat cow was blocking the view of both of my small sons' view.

Second, if you, and others, have to ask and roll your eyes, I guess she was not the only one whose momma did a poor job of teaching lessons in polite manners in public! I mean really, to come in at the last minute and plop down in front of children and think it is ok to block their view!

Third, if she didn't like the wheels bumping her, she could always take her two children and so somewhere else.

Wow! You got that my mom did a poor job raising me just from one post? That's pretty good. I'll let me mom know that, I'm sure she will send her thanks.

In your original post you never said that she was blocking anybody's view. I never, ever, ever said in my post that it was okay for her to do what she did. In fact, I agreed that you had a right to be upset. The only thing I disagreed with was that you were bumping her with your wheels. I still don't see how that helped other than making you feel better which if your mother had raised you right, you would know that two wrongs don't make a right so that really should have made you feel bad.

When I go to the parade I get there early enough so that I can get a seat on the curb so that no one can set in front of me. Give it a try next time. Works like a charm.

 

[tlbwriter]

Yes, it is polite.

I know of many Pooh-sized people who are wonderful. They are respectful and polite, just like skinny-minnies!

But some people play their part. Not saying it's necessarily right, but some ask to be called unkind names due to their behavior. I personally think they could have been called a lot worse than fat cow!

Like the big slob who ground out his cigarrette in front of a CM after she politely asked him to not smoke in a non-smoking area. He then proceeded to walk off, leaving her to pick up his nasty butt. I had a suggestion where she (the CM) could hide it, but he had already walked away so that idea became a moot point.

If that had been a skinny person who behaved so badly, I would see nothing wrong with calling her a shrivelled up pip squeek!

Size doesn't matter -- but manners does, no matter how much one weighs.

Hmmm... personally, I'd find it more appropriate to call the person a lazy, thoughtless litterbug, and leave their weight out of it, since their weight (or lack thereof) isn't the problem here. I don't find it polite at all to point out someone's physical flaws just because you want to chastise their actions. If "size doesn't matter," why even bother to mention it?

 

[ksoehrlein]

but I am curious as to whether this was ECV/wheelchair abuse or a case of two family members with disabilities making an unsafe choice.

Dad was in a rental ECV and teenaged Son was in a rental wheelchair with his feet hooked through the back of Dad's ECV, so that Dad was "towing" Son through the Magic Kingdom. DH is a podiatrist, so my first concern was that Son (whether diabled or not) would fracture both feet if there was an accident.

 

[GEM]

The second was on another trip. We had purchased folding camp stools to use during parades. We staked out our spot on Main Street in MK about 45 minutes before the Electrical parade time and were patiently waiting for the parade to start . . . Unfortunately, the CM's weren't doing their jobs that night and allowed her and her two kids to sit with their feet in the street. So, I kept rocking the stroller wheels against her nice white shorts!

Actually, it's lucky for you that the CMs weren't "doing their jobs" that night, or they would have told you that camp stools (or anything similar) are not allowed. This was a big debate a while back and the final word from Disney (via email responses and several park CMs who post here) was definately that all types of portable chairs and stools are against the rules. Even those canes that have a built in seat are only allowed in the handicapped parade viewing sections.

 

[Cannot_Wait_4Disney]

Hmmm... personally, I'd find it more appropriate to call the person a lazy, thoughtless litterbug, and leave their weight out of it, since their weight (or lack thereof) isn't the problem here. I don't find it polite at all to point out someone's physical flaws just because you want to chastise their actions. If "size doesn't matter," why even bother to mention it?

Couldn't have said it better myself.
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But some people play their part. Not saying it's necessarily right, but some ask to be called unkind names due to their behavior. I personally think they could have been called a lot worse than fat cow!


You're not the one that origninally used the term, so I'm not ripping on you.
Certainly, some people ask to be called out on their behavior. On that I certainly agree with you. But using that term after the fact on a message board isn't exactly calling them out on their behavior.
And what about other people of size who were doing nothing wrong? Do they deserve to read such an insult or hear it as the case may be? And I know you're not the one that posted it, so I'm not blaming you. By ripping on someone for their appearance rather than their actions, one is ripping on everyone that looks like them too whether that is intended or not. And the bottom line is when someone does these things, they end up looking like the bad guy.
What drew the comment from me is the poster I responded to held herself up as the epitome of manners with a statement like some other peoples mommas didn't teach them properly, or something like that, then turned around in the same post and posted such. I thought that rather ironic.

 

[disneyaggie]

Here we go again! One person makes a post and out of the entire post, one tiny piece is picked out and blown out of perportion! Geez, folks, get a life! Who cares what someone called someone else?

The fact is, someone displayed really bad manners by cutting in front of someone else. That was the meat of the story.

It is sad (and pathatically hilarious) how some people get their knickers in such a twist!

 

[tlbwriter]

Here we go again! One person makes a post and out of the entire post, one tiny piece is picked out and blown out of perportion! Geez, folks, get a life! Who cares what someone called someone else?

The fact is, someone displayed really bad manners by cutting in front of someone else. That was the meat of the story.

It is sad (and pathatically hilarious) how some people get their knickers in such a twist!

Well, I think Cannot_Wait said it best. It's funny that people will "get their knickers in a twist" over someone else's rudeness, and then turn around and be rude themselves! Maybe we should all work on getting ourselves in line before we point the finger at others. I know I could use some work in that area, and I know I'm not the only one...

 

[disneyaggie]

As I said before, who cares?

Since some of you tend to want to pick apart anything someone writes, not focusing on what the real and original point was, here's a real challenge for you that should keep you busy. Apparently you have quite a bit of free time so knock yourself out! Go ahead. Pick it apart. Go crazy! Ready? Here it goes . . . "Minnie Mouse is really Mickey in drag". When they appear together, it is just an illusion. Yep, done with mirrors!

Now focus on that one for a while since some of you tend to want to focus on everything except what the OP was trying to convey . . . that someone was rude enough to step in front of her and her family.

 

[tlbwriter]

As I said before, who cares?

Since some of you tend to want to pick apart anything someone writes, not focusing on what the real and original point was, here's a real challenge for you that should keep you busy. Apparently you have quite a bit of free time so knock yourself out! Go ahead. Pick it apart. Go crazy! Ready? Here it goes . . . "Minnie Mouse is really Mickey in drag". When they appear together, it is just an illusion. Yep, done with mirrors!

Now focus on that one for a while since some of you tend to want to focus on everything except what the OP was trying to convey . . . that someone was rude enough to step in front of her and her family.

Obviously some people do care. If you don't, feel free to ignore the posts that don't interest you. I can't imagine why it bothers you so much. Also, the tangent was completely on topic, since the topic at hand was rudeness.

 

[disneyaggie]

Obviously some people do care. If you don't, feel free to ignore the posts that don't interest you. I can't imagine why it bothers you so much. Also, the tangent was completely on topic, since the topic at hand was rudeness.

You are soooo funny!

 

[tlbwriter]

You are soooo funny!

Well, I'm glad I was able to put you in a better mood.

 

[disneyaggie]

Well, I'm glad I was able to put you in a better mood.

Oh honey, I'm always in a great mood! You had nothing to do with it (smile).

Heck, we have WDW . . . why not be in a great mood! Wheeee!

 

[boucheresq]

please, I beg of you - I want this thread to stay open - please no fights - pretty please!

 

[pixiedust23]

please, I beg of you - I want this thread to stay open - please no fights - pretty please!

Me too!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Tony Toon]

I always think it's such a shame for people to get so upset with others. I was reading one of the other topics just yesterday and came across this wonderful quote from Walt Disney himself (who else) which might just make everyone stop for a moment and consider their own actions.

"People look at you and me to see what they are supposed to be. And, if we don't disappoint them, maybe, just maybe, they won't disappoint us." Walt Disney

Even my 15 y o DS remarked how great it was that someone could think of such a marvellous thing to say.

 

[disneyaggie]

This is a pretty cool thread, huh? I think that if people have challenges with each other, then PM each other. Great thought, huh? Hey, I may have to patent that idea!

O. K., let's keep this thread on track so here's my "shocker" -- in today's society where customer service is almost nill, I was pleasantly shocked at how amazing WDW Customer Service really is! I knew they were great, but they really exceeded my expectations!

I got so annoyed with having my September reservations through Disney Travel boofed up that I called WDW CS and said, "I know if you don't ask, you don't get. Is there anything you can do to make my stay more magical since DT has consistently messed up my reservations"? I told the lady my whole long story and she acknowledged that I had been through a lot.

Guess what? I got a wonderful package in the mail yesterday with some cool stuff from WDW CS! Yeah WDW! You rock!

 

[ValerieK]

please, I beg of you - I want this thread to stay open - please no fights - pretty please!