Have a heart!

Yes. I haul a huge camera and tripod on vacation and love photos. I have many of my photos enlarged on canvas and wood hung on my walls. Photos are my very favorite thing to bring home from Disney.


Haunted Manison's Gummi Spiders is what I love to bring back home. :) Tasty!
 
I am not quite sure why you think those behind the people on the curb have more of a right to a good view than the ones that came early to get a prime spot. If you want to stand, stand. If you choose to sit, sit. It is hardly rude to stand up to take a few photos. When I use a tripod, anyone behind me can clearly see there will be an obstructed view, I can't really take photos when I am sitting below my camera.

IMHO I find it quite different than putting a child on my shoulders, or my husbands (which we have never done by the way). I am 5'4" and a size 4, most anyone can see over me or around me when I am standing. :)

You could have someone from your party sit in front of the tripod below the camera. Then you wouldn't be taking up an area of front-row seating to get your pictures.
 
I am not quite sure why you think those behind the people on the curb have more of a right to a good view than the ones that came early to get a prime spot. If you want to stand, stand. If you choose to sit, sit. It is hardly rude to stand up to take a few photos. When I use a tripod, anyone behind me can clearly see there will be an obstructed view, I can't really take photos when I am sitting below my camera.

IMHO I find it quite different than putting a child on my shoulders, or my husbands (which we have never done by the way). I am 5'4" and a size 4, most anyone can see over me or around me when I am standing. :)

You just set up your camera on a tripod and leave it there while you sit down? how have you not lost/broken your camera or tripped someone?

There are plenty of adults shorter then you and kids too...would you stand up in the middle of a concert, movie, or show to take pictures?

My Husband is a volunteer photographer for various nature and animal organizations, and also is an avid vacation photographer. If he was sitting down and stood up to take pictures during a parade or fireworks I'd tug him to SIT BACK DOWN...and give him my best 'annoyed wifey' stare. :) (He has a giant camera with lenses and one lens is so big it has a HANDLE!)

Even as an amateur, my Hubby would never use a tripod in a crowded park, he uses a stick collapsible thing that has one leg.. MONOpod! yes! (thank you hubby.) IF he is standing, he usually stands next to a pole and stands the monopod so it is resting on the pole. it's eye level to him, in front of him, and not blocking anyone. We usually stand off to the side when watching fireworks and he stands in an area where he can get great photos and no one is behind him or near him (in WDW he usually stands behind bushes by the Crystal Palace...people are sitting on the porch with is elevated behind him...and he keeps asking me if he is blocking anyone...he's very considerate...!)

No one can trip over his monopod cause it's between his feet. When we go to public places, we ask customer service and guards if tripods are okay and because they say no so many times, he got this cool monopod stick, and that seems to be okay when he asks. This is not a selfie stick. This is a monopod. (My word for the day!)

If you are standing behind the people sitting, and no one is shorter then you when you are standing, and you are just standing, not moving all about... then you are fine, but you get up and block someone's view who is shorter then you...it's not viewed as positive by me.. I'm 5'1." I do not want to see the back of your hairdo or your really amazing camera...LOL! :)

I'm very sensitive about this whole tall people blocking me thing. (Yes, you are tall you got 3 inches on me!) I've never known what it is like to have a great view without effort, planning and usually spending money on a reserved area. (I had tears in my eyes when I finally got to see the electrical parade from the reserved FP+ section in WDW....I have only heard the music and seen the top of the floats...since I was 6 and was able to see under adult's legs...I'm 40 now...it's been a long time coming!)

I am sensitive to the fact that there are others around me and should get the same opportunity as I to see something wonderful and fun. :) As a photographer, I'm surprised you have not come across this type of reaction in the past.
 
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And that absolves you from the rudeness of blocking the view of those behind you? This is no different from a parent putting a child on their shoulders when the parade starts.
When someone on the curb stands, you can just ask the CM manning the area to ask them to sit, as they were in the seated area. I am on an ECV and will make sure I am not at the curb, so people can sit there, and I am not blocking the seated groups views. It is common courtesy. I've asked CMs numerous times about someone who has decided to stand to video on the front curb, and they have always gone and reminded them to remain seated. I had to do this last weekend for Paint The Night as I was by Small World Mall, and the a couple who were seated in the front section decided to stand when the parade started. I asked them if they could sit so I could see, and they ignored me, so we waved at a CM, who quickly came over and reminded them to sit. Only missed a minute or so of the parade.
 
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I am not quite sure why you think those behind the people on the curb have more of a right to a good view than the ones that came early to get a prime spot. If you want to stand, stand. If you choose to sit, sit. It is hardly rude to stand up to take a few photos. When I use a tripod, anyone behind me can clearly see there will be an obstructed view, I can't really take photos when I am sitting below my camera.

It's not about the people behind you having more of a right to a good view than you do. It's about the fact that you're required to sit when you're at the curb.
 
It goes both ways, absolutely! ... But hey, there arent written rules that is why we have COMMON SENSE.
 
I am not quite sure why you think those behind the people on the curb have more of a right to a good view than the ones that came early to get a prime spot. If you want to stand, stand. If you choose to sit, sit. It is hardly rude to stand up to take a few photos. When I use a tripod, anyone behind me can clearly see there will be an obstructed view, I can't really take photos when I am sitting below my camera.

IMHO I find it quite different than putting a child on my shoulders, or my husbands (which we have never done by the way). I am 5'4" and a size 4, most anyone can see over me or around me when I am standing. :)
The rule is that if you are on the curb, you sit. Staking out a spot three hours in advance, taking photos and being tiny doesn't give you any more rights than anyone else. As a photographer I'm appalled at your lack of courtesy to others. Your photos are not worth more than someone else's experience, no matter how long you waited. You want to stand, stake out a spot where you can stand.

Me, I don't waste precious park time to see a parade or fireworks, just not my cup of tea. My kids know my limit is 30-45mins and we take what we can get. As mentioned above, a decent view can be had just about anywhere. If it's not a great view we can see it another time.
 
When someone on the curb stands, you can just ask the CM manning the area to ask them to sit, as they were in the seated area. I am on an ECV and will make sure I am not at the curb, so people can sit there, and I am not blocking the seated groups views. It is common courtesy. I've asked CMs numerous times about someone who has decided to stand to video on the front curb, and they have always gone and reminded them to remain seated. I had to do this last weekend for Paint The Night as I was by Small World Mall, and the a couple who were seated in the front section decided to stand when the parade started. I asked them if they could sit so I could see, and they ignored me, so we waved at a CM, who quickly came over and reminded them to sit. Only missed a minute or so of the parade.

Glad you got the couple to sit. So awful.

I think this whole issue will never be resolved as some feel "entitled" to their spot by waiting for hours, and some feel okay with arriving and getting almost as good of a spot.
 
I suspect you are correct with this. A friend of mine who lives in Orange County told me just a couple of days ago that he & his crew are going to DL this next week in the evening just for the purpose of seeing the new parade & fireworks.
Heck yes. We are flying down the West Coast soon just for the same reason.
 
I am not quite sure why you think those behind the people on the curb have more of a right to a good view than the ones that came early to get a prime spot. If you want to stand, stand. If you choose to sit, sit. It is hardly rude to stand up to take a few photos. When I use a tripod, anyone behind me can clearly see there will be an obstructed view, I can't really take photos when I am sitting below my camera.

IMHO I find it quite different than putting a child on my shoulders, or my husbands (which we have never done by the way). I am 5'4" and a size 4, most anyone can see over me or around me when I am standing. :)


I feel the polite thing to do would be set up your tripod back from the curb allowing somebody to sit and still provide you with an unobstructed view. The curb is for sitting regardless of your hobby.
 
I can see this one from the late comers' perspective, though. Camping out all day shouldn't entitle people to a spot to sit sideways on the curb with their legs out and a spot of their tray of food and backpack during the parade. I understand wanting to spread out while you wait, but you need to allow the extra space to be filled in when it gets closer to parade time. It's similar to the space the opens up at WOC and fireworks when everyone is asked to stand up. Someone shouldn't have their chest pressed into your back breathing down your neck, but there are going to be more people added to the limited space by design.

I agree. I'd also say..if a person shows up close to show time and there happens to be space for them in a prime area, then it would be rude for someone to take up that space and deny access to space that's actually available (not talking about taking someone elses place) just because the incoming person/s weren't there as long.

I would.never *expect* prime space if i showed up close to show time, but if I found some and it was legitimately free, and someone decided to spitefully deny us use of that space, I would definitely be taken aback.
 
I would.never *expect* prime space if i showed up close to show time, but if I found some and it was legitimately free, and someone decided to spitefully deny us use of that space, I would definitely be taken aback.

And that is exactly what is happening on Main Street and it is a shame!
 
A little over a year ago we went to our FP section for World Of Color early- we sat in the front of the section eating our ice cream for over an hour. As it got closer to starting and the section was filling we stood up to make room for more people, and a very large, muscular man with 2 children walked up and started cussing at my 15 year old son. It was horrible, menacing cussing about how horrible he was to take a spot from a child. My teenage boys (and DH and I) always let children (or very petite adults) stand in front of them. My older boys were doing this and this son was about to tell the kids to move in front of him when the man started cussing. We were a large group and I was on one end of our group and the rest of my family (we were traveling with other families with small kids) were on the other end of the group. I got scared and didn't have DH next to us to defend us. We ended up moving down to DH.

Someone earlier was talking about DAS people being rude because it took so long to scan the tickets. We utilize DAS for my son and this past week we had many people be rude to us because it was raking a while to scan in our tickets. Most people didn't know what they were and would start complaining things like, "they can't use their tickets as a FP! They should have to get FP like everyone else! Why are they holding up the line?" etc. Or if it was a ride without FP people would ask rudely why we were so special. My son's disability is not visible and we try to use FP as much as possible and we are as respectful to everyone as we can be. I wish the CMs could/would say something to these people but I'm guessing they can't because of privacy rules. Sometimes we try to exp,ain that it is a disability pass but often the people aren't even listening to us.
 
A little over a year ago we went to our FP section for World Of Color early- we sat in the front of the section eating our ice cream for over an hour. As it got closer to starting and the section was filling we stood up to make room for more people, and a very large, muscular man with 2 children walked up and started cussing at my 15 year old son. It was horrible, menacing cussing about how horrible he was to take a spot from a child. My teenage boys (and DH and I) always let children (or very petite adults) stand in front of them. My older boys were doing this and this son was about to tell the kids to move in front of him when the man started cussing. We were a large group and I was on one end of our group and the rest of my family (we were traveling with other families with small kids) were on the other end of the group. I got scared and didn't have DH next to us to defend us. We ended up moving down to DH.

Someone earlier was talking about DAS people being rude because it took so long to scan the tickets. We utilize DAS for my son and this past week we had many people be rude to us because it was raking a while to scan in our tickets. Most people didn't know what they were and would start complaining things like, "they can't use their tickets as a FP! They should have to get FP like everyone else! Why are they holding up the line?" etc. Or if it was a ride without FP people would ask rudely why we were so special. My son's disability is not visible and we try to use FP as much as possible and we are as respectful to everyone as we can be. I wish the CMs could/would say something to these people but I'm guessing they can't because of privacy rules. Sometimes we try to exp,ain that it is a disability pass but often the people aren't even listening to us.


This is horrible. I'm so sorry you experienced this. Many disabilities are not obvious! Sometimes I just shake my head at the rudeness of others. I hope this didn't ruin your fun in the parks.
 
So when I google Disney parades I find a lot of photos liked this.

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I notice many people standing as well as sitting. Also, any time I have used a tripod, I have kept it at eye level, with the legs only extended as wide as my own stance so I do not trip anyone or obstruct any space other than the space I am standing in, and I have only used it at night, never during a daytime parade. I have not used my monopod when I take photos of fireworks because even the slightest wobble distorts the picture. I am always very conscious of being in the way of others, but I guess it is not enough. Had anyone mentioned to me in the park that I was in the way, I would have made an immediate change to where I was.

Next time I will forget the camera and just bring home Haunted Mansion Gummy Spiders. ;)
 
This is horrible. I'm so sorry you experienced this. Many disabilities are not obvious! Sometimes I just shake my head at the rudeness of others. I hope this didn't ruin your fun in the parks.

Thank you- we still had a wonderful time! Disneyland is our place where we try to forget about life threatening illnesses. Speaking of the new DAS- we actually really like it. It was so easy to abuse the old system, that when my 4 boys would use it without us (or even with us sometimes) people assumed they were abusing it. At least now people just don't understand instead of openly accusing them of cheating.
 
It goes both ways, absolutely! ... But hey, there arent written rules that is why we have COMMON SENSE.

Common Sense and Common Courtesy

These two things can be lacking by people at times.

I find in this day and age some people have the Entitlement Syndrome when they want what they don't have. Regardless of how it does/might effect others.

With the volume of people in the parks these days, I really hope they remember common sense and courtesy during their visit.

Geemo
 
I had the pleasure of watching the new fireworks with a kid in a stroller Sunday before Memorial Day. We were in the hub because we came in late due to the kiddo falling and scrapping his knee pretty badly (which required a trip to first aid). We waited in an overflow area from where you couldn't see PTN but we really just wanted to see the fireworks. We were guided towards the area right in front of the castle and ended up behind this tall guy. So we maneuvered the stroller around so the kiddo could see the fireworks from the stroller. It was a perfect view for all of us until the fireworks began and this 6'4, 300lbs guy put his teenage daughter (14 or 15 I'd say) on his shoulder! Nobody standing behind him could see a thing! Kiddo in the stroller started crying, he couldn't see anything. Kiddo walking started crying, she couldn't see anything. My friend picked up her 9yo, still a no go since we couldn't see anything either. I picked up the 4yo old, but he couldn't see anything either because I couldn't see anything. Then that guy had the nerve to turn around and cuss at us that the kids' crying was "lessening his experience of the fireworks" - to say it in not so harsh words. I was seriously flabbergasted at that! There was an elderly couple next to us who then allowed us to squeeze in before them so the kids could enjoy the fireworks. That was fine for a minute until the wife to that obnoxious guy decided to not just carry their 8yo but move him to their shoulders. Seriously? My friends' kids could have watched from ground level just fine, even while sitting in the stroller, if that couple hadn't decided to put their kids on their shoulders - kids that were clearly way too old and too tall to be put on anyone's shoulders and could have very well watched from ground level.

That said, I hope that guy went home with some serious bruising because little kiddo decided to repeatedly push his stroller into the guy's legs - not for kiddo not been attentive where he was pushing his stroller but because this guy was attempting to climb over the stroller several times because the area wasn't clearing fast enough for his liking. The masses are moving in front, so we move the stroller, this guy starts to cut the line, bam, he ends up with the stroller in his legs. Again, we hear serious cussing.

I end this post with the saying that my friend is Navy. She can have a pretty foul mouth if need be (and the kids don't hear it) and can get her point across to even a 6'4 300lbs guy. And she did. When she was done, a few people around us started clapping.:rotfl2:
 
And that isn't Disneyland.
I guess it is a coastal thing.

That must be it then. I have not seen a parade in DL for quite some time, but have in WDW.

This is what I found on the wdwinfo website in regards to parade viewing...

Do - Sit or stand in the space you claimed to view the parade. Depending on your height or where you are adjacent to the curb you may decide to sit or stand to view the parade. Inevitably, you are going to do what is most comfortable for you and your companions. The choice should be yours. If another adult behind you asks you to please sit down so they can see it should ultimately be your decision based on you and your family's comfort. Just remember, the parade floats and their passengers are elevated for a reason.

http://www.wdwinfo.com/columns/disney-parade-viewing-dos-and-donts.cfm
 












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