HalloweenTime at DLR Superthread #4

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Hiya Sherry E and other who went to Unleash the Villains last year...after the stories about how crowded/mobbed it was...I thought of you all when I heard that WDW decided to do the event again this year, but it is going to be a hard ticket event.

http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=3286656
http://disneyparks.disney.go.com/bl...oming-to-disneys-hollywood-studios-august-23/

So far, no rumors for DLR, but I wonder if they would consider doing it on this coast as well. It sounds like something that would be fun to try (at least once).
 
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Hiya Sherry E and other who went to Unleash the Villains last year...after the stories about how crowded/mobbed it was...I thought of you all when I heard that WDW decided to do the event again this year, but it is going to be a hard ticket event.

http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=3286656

So far, no rumors for DLR, but I wonder if they would consider doing it on this coast as well. It sounds like something that would be fun to try (at least once).

Thank you for posting that, figment_jii!

You just know that if WDW is doing it, DLR probably has some sort of idea to do it as well (and it will probably be revealed as a "Get Happier/Monday Summer Surprise":rotfl2:). It's another way to make extra money by charging for a hard ticket event.

Where were the Villains Unleashed at WDW last year? In which park? Was it Hollywood Studios or Magic Kingdom? What Disneyland should do is, instead of packing all of the Villain fun into Disneyland for the MHP (and the Conjure... tent at the Carnival), simply put the Villains in DCA to be Unleashed and to add some spooky merriment to DCA.

Something is coming for the Christmas/holiday season -- some sort of event. I really think so now. It may not be a full, 10-night party or whatever, but I think that DLR could try one of those 1-night or 2-night deals -- like this Villains thing -- and charge for it, just to see how it flies with the holiday visitors.
 
You just know that if WDW is doing it, DLR probably has some sort of idea to do it as well (and it will probably be revealed as a "Get Happier/Monday Summer Surprise":rotfl2:). It's another way to make extra money by charging for a hard ticket event.
It would make for an interesting Monday Summer Surprise. I kind of doubt we'll see it next Monday...I would guess the first one (not counting the announcement about the Monday surprises) will be something inside the parks.

Where were the Villains Unleashed at WDW last year? In which park? Was it Hollywood Studios or Magic Kingdom?
It was at DHS (Hollywood Studios). Sounds like that is where it will be this year as well.

What Disneyland should do is, instead of packing all of the Villain fun into Disneyland for the MHP (and the Conjure... tent at the Carnival), simply put the Villains in DCA to be Unleashed and to add some spooky merriment to DCA.
:rotfl: You really want some Halloween in DCA! :rotfl: I think it would be a great idea!

Something is coming for the Christmas/holiday season -- some sort of event. I really think so now. It may not be a full, 10-night party or whatever, but I think that DLR could try one of those 1-night or 2-night deals -- like this Villains thing -- and charge for it, just to see how it flies with the holiday visitors.
I'm interested in seeing what happens as well. They're already got experience doing hard ticket events (MHP) that sell very well. So it wouldn't surprise me if they're trying to develop a Mickey's Christmas Party type event as well. It's just harder to see how they could do it because historically they run the Christmas parade and Christmas fireworks nightly, which is something that WDW does not do until the parties are over. We shall have to wait and see...
 
OMG!! It's 9 days untill the school I work at gets out for the summer!!! I have untill the end of the month th get two costumes done for the Anime Expo. I will also be wearing these two costumes at MHP this year. I hope to go 3 or 4 times to MHP this year. I want to go once by myself.
 

Hiya Sherry E and other who went to Unleash the Villains last year...after the stories about how crowded/mobbed it was...I thought of you all when I heard that WDW decided to do the event again this year, but it is going to be a hard ticket event.

http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=3286656
http://disneyparks.disney.go.com/bl...oming-to-disneys-hollywood-studios-august-23/

So far, no rumors for DLR, but I wonder if they would consider doing it on this coast as well. It sounds like something that would be fun to try (at least once).

OMG that would be so awesome! If they do announce it for that weekend in CA, I'll definitely consider changing my flights. I LOVE villains! Knowing my luck, they'll probably announce it for the weekend after Labor Day when I'll be in CA, but won't be able to get to DLR...
 
I know no one wants to hear this, but I am going to say it anyway.

The Unleash the Villains event at DLR -- as it happened last year, with the dance areas, photo spots and fireworks -- was in no way worth $60. In fact, to be very honest, the whole reason why the Unleash the Villains event was intriguing last year (before I saw what a poorly organized mess it was) was that it was a free way to meet Villains, without paying $60 for a Mickey's Halloween Party ticket 2 weeks later. That was the novelty of it -- it fell under the Limited Time Magic banner, so it was like Disney was essentially giving the "gift" of Villains and fireworks for free, without the extra charge of the MHP -- and the MHP is where you would normally find the bulk of the Villains.

So...if Disney were to suddenly throw a paid Unleash the Villains event into the mix at DLR, and charge (more or less) what they are charging for the MHP (and the MHP also includes many characters, as well as Villains, and lots of candy, and fireworks, and a Cavalcade) -- when Unleash was a free event last year -- the only way that I can see that the price would be worthwhile is if the Villains at the Unleash the Villains event were exclusive to that event only, and could not be seen or met at the MHP, or at the Halloween Carnival in the daytime. If Disney can put a whole group of 50+ Villains (including really rare Villains) at the Unleash the Villains event, and they don't bring out those really rare Villains at any other time, then it might be worth it. The large number of Villains unleashed at one time would be worthwhile -- but I still think that anything over $40 is very steep for that type of event.

Otherwise, if it's just the same ol' Captain Hook, Cruella, Evil Queen, Queen of Hearts, etc., etc. who are being Unleashed -- unless something changes this year -- all of those Villains should be at the MHP, and some of them will be at the Halloween Carnival in the daytime.

Disney has a way of announcing things and packaging them up in a way to make people think they are getting something really new and exciting. Sometimes what they are announcing is new and exciting, and sometimes it's not when you actually look closely at it!

...Just my 2 cents!




And figment_jii --

You are correct -- I want more Halloween in DCA, and here is why. I'll break it down!


Holidays at Disneyland Resort (in November and December) include:

  • Decorations at all 3 hotels;
  • Decorations and holiday music in Downtown Disney, and an ice rink & Winter Village in November-December;
  • Many decorations on Main Street;
  • Decorations and IASW Holiday in Fantasyland, and also on the Storybook Land boat ride;
  • Many decorations in Toontown;
  • Many decorations -- aside from anything having to do with Haunted Mansion Holiday, though HMH is there too -- in New Orleans Square;
  • Jingle Cruise in Adventureland;
  • Decorations in Frontierland;
  • Jingle Jangle Jamboree;
  • 5 places to meet Santa;
  • Decorations in Critter Country;
  • Decorations -- though minimal -- in Grizzly Peak, and maybe a return of Elf Days this year;
  • Many decorations in Paradise Pier;
  • Winter Dreams;
  • Viva Navidad;
  • Believe in Holiday Magic fireworks and A Christmas Fantasy Parade available every day of the holiday season, and not part of a paid party;
  • Holiday version of Mad T Party;
  • Brand new decorations in Hollywood Land;
  • Many Decorations in Cars Land;
  • Many decorations on Buena Vista Street (and music too);
  • Decorations in almost all of the shops and restaurants in the parks and hotels, including gingerbread creations;
  • Decorations in A Bug's Land;
  • Minimal decor in Pacific Wharf;
  • Special New Year's Eve fireworks;
  • Three Kings Day;
  • Candlelight Ceremony/Processional; and
  • All kinds of seasonal musical entertainment on Buena Vista Street and Main Street.




And I left quite a few things off of that list! Now, let's take a look at the Halloween Time season, and what it entails.




Halloween Time at Disneyland Resort includes:

  • Many pumpkins all along Main Street, orange bunting and window displays;
  • Decorations in a couple of Main Street shops;
  • Character pumpkins around the Hub;
  • Mickey's Halloween Party and all that it involves for the price of a separate ticket (candy, dressing in costume, rare characters, Villains, shorter lines for rides, dance stations, Halloween Screams, the Cavalcade, and large Mickey ghosts to mark the approximate entrances to the treat trails);
  • The Ray Bradbury Halloween Tree in Frontierland (a gem both in the daytime and at night);
  • Haunted Mansion Holiday (which is there for the holiday season too);
  • Character pumpkins above the turnstiles;
  • The Halloween Carnival/Roundup in Frontierland, and all that it entails (decorations, Villains, carved pumpkins, Pirates League -- I think the Halloween Carnival has the edge over the Jingle Jangle Jamboree during the holidays);
  • Space Mountain Ghost Galaxy;
  • The Dia de los Muertos display in Frontierland;
  • Some other random Halloween decorations in Frontierland shops;
  • A decoration or two inside World of Disney, but you won't know it's there unless you go inside;
  • Some sort of screening or exhibit of whichever Tim Burton movie Disney is plugging in DCA each year;
  • The Halloween display along the tram path, from Mickey and Friends to DTD, which you pass by quickly and have to take the tram to see up close -- otherwise, you might never know it is even there;
  • Duffy's photo spot in DCA, where you can pose with Duffy in his pumpkin costume; and
  • The Halloween version of the Mad T Party, which didn't seem very Halloween-ish on the first day of Halloween Time last year, but I guess it got more Halloween-ish as the season wore on.



I probably skipped something minor, but I didn't include things like free seasonal samples at Ghirardelli or seasonal goodies, because those are abundant for both Halloween Time and Christmas time. I also didn't include the gingerbread workshop at Jazz Kitchen, but that is there for both holidays as well.

It may appear that there is a lot of "Halloween" at DLR during the season if one were to just glance down the lists -- but what does the holiday season have that Halloween Time is missing? Decorations, decorations, decorations -- in more than just 2 or 3 lands, and in both parks and all 3 hotels!:lmao: All of the "Halloween" at DLR is basically concentrated on Main Street and in Frontierland, and in New Orleans Square if we are counting that -- although HMH is there for Christmas time too, so it is not Halloween-specific.

What is the other obvious difference between Halloween Time and the holidays? Thus far, a big chunk of the Halloween Time festivities (though not all, of course) is held hostage to a hard ticket party, which is another reason there should be decorations in DCA -- to give the non-MHP people something extra to enjoy and look at when they head over to DCA on MHP nights!

And...a big, giant area with Halloween décor in DCA (Candy Corn Acres) was removed several years ago, and never relocated to another area in that park!


I rest my case.:lmao:



Kilala --

Wow! Three or four parties this year? That is a whole lot of MHP in one year!

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The only way that I can see that the price would be worthwhile is if the Villains at the Unleash the Villains event were exclusive to that event only, and could not be seen or met at the MHP, or at the Halloween Carnival in the daytime. If Disney can put a whole group of 50+ Villains (including really rare Villains) at the Unleash the Villains event, and they don't bring out those really rare Villains at any other time, then it might be worth it. The large number of Villains unleashed at one time would be worthwhile -- but I still think that anything over $40 is very steep for that type of event.

Knowing that I will not get to a MHP, I would pay for the opportunity to meet lots of villains where I know what I'm going to get (I'm unwilling to spend a lot of time lining up at Halloween Carnival not knowing who I'll get, and knowing that it could just be someone I've already met again), and also for the opportunity to attend in costume :goodvibes
 
Knowing that I will not get to a MHP, I would pay for the opportunity to meet lots of villains where I know what I'm going to get (I'm unwilling to spend a lot of time lining up at Halloween Carnival not knowing who I'll get, and knowing that it could just be someone I've already met again), and also for the opportunity to attend in costume :goodvibes

zanzibar138 -

Yes, in your case -- or in the case of anyone who couldn't make it to an MHP -- the Villains thing would definitely be more worthwhile if it were to happen in a time frame that was convenient for you to go. I still think $60+ is way too expensive for that event, but it would be more worthwhile if the MHP were not an option. I somehow have a feeling, though, that there would not be as many as 50 Villains at a DLR event. DLR would probably get fewer Villains than WDW gets.

Also, we don't even know if DLR will have such an event, or if it would be on the same date as the WDW event. There is a lot of gray area. Right now, the Parks Blog is saying that the event is exclusive to DHS. It may not happen at DLR at all.

Personally, I have thought all along that DLR might end up adding in more MHP nights eventually, but start them earlier in September than they have been starting the MHP the last few years. There is a whole 2-week span of time in between when Halloween Time begins and the MHP starts. That's a lot of extra room to add in something to sweeten the pot a little bit, and it could be a Villains only event, or it could be an extra MHP. So you never know. They may surprise us and have an MHP earlier in September at some point!

The Carnival set-up for the Villains is not handled well at all. I understand the "mystery" of conjuring the Villain, but there are people who wait in line and end up meeting the same Villain over and over because they don't know who they will get. DLR needs to find some way to fix that issue, because it wastes the guests' time! I greatly preferred the old Villains photo spot in Fantasyland, pre-2012 -- but I really love the Halloween Carnival in general, as an overall Halloween-ish concept!
 
Also, we don't even know if DLR will have such an event, or if it would be on the same date as the WDW event. There is a lot of gray area. Right now, the Parks Blog is saying that the event is exclusive to DHS. It may not happen at DLR at all.

Yes, I shall try not to get my hopes up ;)
 
Every time I check this thread it just gets me more excited to go in October! They can't announced the dates soon enough for me.:)
 
I am so excited about attending a Halloween party this year!!! I have been to DL early in the season, before the parties start, and love the decorations and HMH. For those who have been in previous years, could you provide a little more information about the pre-party in Toontown? Do they close down the area prior to the party to get everyone out and then only let people with party bands in? Is the line for entry into the Toontown pre-party long? Efficient? I am just wondering if we need to line up for entry much in advance. I see by the great FAQs that Gaget’s and Roger Rabbit are closed during the party. Can I assume they are also closed for the pre-party too?

And on another party planning subject - Peter Pan. Are the lines during the party typical to the times during most of the day (45-90 minutes) or are they shorter with the party activities going on?

I don’t go commando style and I like to be flexible but efficient. The last thing I want to do is stop in the middle of a walkway and have a group discussion about what to do next. Knowing what to expect and planning for it helps. I appreciate any insight you can provide.

This is a wonderful and informative thread. Thanks for all the hardwork putting it together Sherry.
 
Hey fellow DLR lovers!
I'm getting married in Vegas in October and I just thought of the idea of leaving on a road trip from Vegas around 4-5am and driving to LA and doing a Hollywood Tmz celebrity tour in the morning/afternoon, and than driving to Anaheim for a Halloween party at Disney with my bridal party ( all who have never been to Disney)
How are the ride lines compared to during the day? We would probably just be doing rides and fireworks.. Not really any of the party stuff. Also do you only need the ticket for the event to get into the park? You don't also need the park ticket as well as the Halloween party ticket do you?
Just wondering because I'm thinking of buying my maid of honors and her fiancés as well.. So if I can save money? "

Thanks!!!
 
So...if Disney were to suddenly throw a paid Unleash the Villains event into the mix at DLR, and charge (more or less) what they are charging for the MHP (and the MHP also includes many characters, as well as Villains, and lots of candy, and fireworks, and a Cavalcade) -- when Unleash was a free event last year -- the only way that I can see that the price would be worthwhile is if the Villains at the Unleash the Villains event were exclusive to that event only, and could not be seen or met at the MHP, or at the Halloween Carnival in the daytime. If Disney can put a whole group of 50+ Villains (including really rare Villains) at the Unleash the Villains event, and they don't bring out those really rare Villains at any other time, then it might be worth it. The large number of Villains unleashed at one time would be worthwhile -- but I still think that anything over $40 is very steep for that type of event.

I agree that they would need to do something that would make it "worth" the cost for folks who went to Unleash the Villains last year. Over at DHS, the fact that there will 50+ villains is a huge draw (villains aren't that common in WDW to begin with), plus DHS doesn't normally have fireworks, so that is something "new" (it would be like DCA having their own fireworks show). In that way, adding the event at DHS is easier, because they aren't competing with things that were "free" or common to begin with.

For those who have been in previous years, could you provide a little more information about the pre-party in Toontown? Do they close down the area prior to the party to get everyone out and then only let people with party bands in? Is the line for entry into the Toontown pre-party long? Efficient? I am just wondering if we need to line up for entry much in advance. I see by the great FAQs that Gaget’s and Roger Rabbit are closed during the party. Can I assume they are also closed for the pre-party too?

Yes, the close down Toontown prior to the start of the pre-party and then once the party starts, only folks with wristbands are let in. The pre-party line was pretty long at opening, but it moves pretty quickly. The first time I went, I was there pre-opening and waited in line. Once inside Toontown the candy lines in the back (e.g., Minnie's, Mickey's, Donald's) were all pretty short. The second time I went, I waited until about 30 minutes after the start of the pre-party and the lines were much longer. I was still able to get into all of the houses. Overall, I don't think being there pre-opening is critical.

And on another party planning subject - Peter Pan. Are the lines during the party typical to the times during most of the day (45-90 minutes) or are they shorter with the party activities going on?
My instinctive answer is that the line is still on the longer side. The shorter PP line is usually first thing in the morning (assuming it's not an EMH/MM).

How are the ride lines compared to during the day? We would probably just be doing rides and fireworks.. Not really any of the party stuff. Also do you only need the ticket for the event to get into the park? You don't also need the park ticket as well as the Halloween party ticket do you?

Correct, you only need the party ticket to get into the park for the party. The party tickets have historically allowed guests entry into Disneyland (it is not a park hopper ticket, so you cannot enter DCA using the event ticket) three hours before the official start of the party (so, either 3:00 pm or 4:00 pm).

The ride lines are variable and not everything is open (see Question #12 and #13 of the FAQ). In general, I think the lines are shorter than during the day (especially for the less popular rides), but they are not going to be walk-ons. Things like SMGG and HMH will still have long(ish) lines.
 
We have some family that have said they want to go to MHP with us so DH said we would buy the tickets for them and they'd pay us back. I'm a little concerned (to be honest hopeful) that they will change their mind and not come with us. How hard would it be to find someone a couple of weeks before the party to buy any tickets we don't need? I know two years ago people were begging for tickets and last year most of the parties sold out.
 
laura&fam said:
We have some family that have said they want to go to MHP with us so DH said we would buy the tickets for them and they'd pay us back. I'm a little concerned (to be honest hopeful) that they will change their mind and not come with us. How hard would it be to find someone a couple of weeks before the party to buy any tickets we don't need? I know two years ago people were begging for tickets and last year most of the parties sold out.

We've only gone once in 2012 and had a family member back out less than a week before the party. I posted the ticket on Craigslist and sold it for face value (some people were selling them for 3x what they paid!) within 5 mins of us walking into the park. The lady that bought it was so thankful. They went to the Monday party every year and they always bought their tix the day of with no probs. They were shocked to find it sold out so buying our ticket helped but she was still searching for 3 more- and was willing to pay big $$$
 
We have some family that have said they want to go to MHP with us so DH said we would buy the tickets for them and they'd pay us back. I'm a little concerned (to be honest hopeful) that they will change their mind and not come with us. How hard would it be to find someone a couple of weeks before the party to buy any tickets we don't need? I know two years ago people were begging for tickets and last year most of the parties sold out.

I do think you'll be able to find buyers, but I think the biggest issue you'll find is that here on the Disboards, we tend to warn against purchasing tickets from sellers on eBay and Craig's List. I'm not saying everyone is a bad seller, but there have been enough reports of problems, that makes it tough to recommend it.

Unless you're buying with an AP, DVC, or DRVC discount, I would probably just tell them that it would be easier for them to purchase their own tickets if they are uncertain about going because the tickets are non-refundable. Either that, or ask them to pay for the tickets as soon as you get them in hand.
 
I do think you'll be able to find buyers, but I think the biggest issue you'll find is that here on the Disboards, we tend to warn against purchasing tickets from sellers on eBay and Craig's List. I'm not saying everyone is a bad seller, but there have been enough reports of problems, that makes it tough to recommend it.

Unless you're buying with an AP, DVC, or DRVC discount, I would probably just tell them that it would be easier for them to purchase their own tickets if they are uncertain about going because the tickets are non-refundable. Either that, or ask them to pay for the tickets as soon as you get them in hand.

We would be getting them with the Disney Visa early/discount and I would sell them at face value if I needed to. I'll have to consider people, understandably, being wary of buying from an unreliable source because of fakes.

The people who are coming with us are usually very good about doing what they say they will. My concern is every time we invite them to do something little they say no so I'm completely stunned that they said they want to come on a big trip with us. I guess I just need to pick myself up off the floor and move on.

Now if they would just release the MHP dates my life would be complete :)
 
I should probably remind everyone at this point that talking about selling MHP tickets or any other Disney tickets is not a good idea on this board, because then it opens up the door for people on the DIS to try to sell and buy tickets here, down the road -- which is not allowed.

We obviously know that people "out there" in the world sell and buy tickets, and I'm sure Disney realizes it too, but since the MHP tickets are technically "not for resale" and are probably not supposed to be transferable (according to verbiage that I think may be printed on the back of them, if I am not mistaken), and since we don't allow sales of any kind on The DIS even if Disney were okay with tickets being resold, it's probably best to just not even delve into the subject on this forum.

Every year we have to delete posts and threads because people think they can somehow sneakily drop hints about needing to buy or get rid of tickets and that we won't catch on to what they're up to!:lmao::lmao: If I had a nickel for every time someone said something along the lines of, "Oh, of course I wasn't trying to sell. I was just mentioning that I couldn't go to the party on XYZ date and ended up with tickets I can't use," or some variation of that, I would have nice chunk of change built up by now! :lmao:

I know that no one here was trying to do that (sneakily sell tickets), as the tickets have not even gone on sale yet, but the whole subject of buying and selling tickets outside of authorized Disney sites or vendors just kind of opens up a can of worms that probably shouldn't be opened.

Maybe some of the other Disney-related discussion boards allow ticket sales or talk of selling, and ideas of where to sell and buy tickets -- but on this board we don't. If you would like to freely give your tickets away as an act of kindness, however, that is a different story!

So, fair warning -- if, after the tickets go on sale and MHP nights begin to sell out, if we see anyone posting and looking to buy tickets for sold out nights, the post or thread will be deleted. If anyone tries to sell tickets they can't use or hint at it, that, too, will be deleted. Just don't try it here, on this board -- it will be easier for all of us!:goodvibes


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I should probably remind everyone at this point that talking about selling MHP tickets or any other Disney tickets is not a good idea on this board, because then it opens up the door for people on the DIS to try to sell and buy tickets here, down the road -- which is not allowed.

We obviously know that people "out there" in the world sell and buy tickets, and I'm sure Disney realizes it too, but since the MHP tickets are technically "not for resale" and are probably not supposed to be transferable (according to verbiage that I think may be printed on the back of them, if I am not mistaken), and since we don't allow sales of any kind on The DIS even if Disney were okay with tickets being resold, it's probably best to just not even delve into the subject on this forum.

Every year we have to delete posts and threads because people think they can somehow sneakily drop hints about needing to buy or get rid of tickets and that we won't catch on to what they're up to!:lmao::lmao: If I had a nickel for every time someone said something along the lines of, "Oh, of course I wasn't trying to sell. I was just mentioning that I couldn't go to the party on XYZ date and ended up with tickets I can't use," or some variation of that, I would have nice chunk of change built up by now! :lmao:

I know that no one here was trying to do that (sneakily sell tickets), as the tickets have not even gone on sale yet, but the whole subject of buying and selling tickets outside of authorized Disney sites or vendors just kind of opens up a can of worms that probably shouldn't be opened.

Maybe some of the other Disney-related discussion boards allow ticket sales or talk of selling, and ideas of where to sell and buy tickets -- but on this board we don't. If you would like to freely give your tickets away as an act of kindness, however, that is a different story!

So, fair warning -- if, after the tickets go on sale and MHP nights begin to sell out, if we see anyone posting and looking to buy tickets for sold out nights, the post or thread will be deleted. If anyone tries to sell tickets they can't use or hint at it, that, too, will be deleted. Just don't try it here, on this board -- it will be easier for all of us!:goodvibes


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So I gather when we buy MHP tickets, we don't have to put the ticket holders' names down at purchase? We have been debating whether to have our 20-year old fly down for the weekend if we go in October the weekend her has a Friday break from college, but he probably won't decide that until he gets back to class in the fall whether he will or not. But I could have another family member or friend use that ticket, right? Just not selling them--it's fine for anyone in my party to use it even if the exact members of my party haven't been determined yet. Do I have that straight? I am a rule follower by nature, so I want to make sure I understand the policies before I buy the tickets. Thanks!:)
 
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