Guns in the House

[mamacatnv]

Not really to me---its a lifestyle. I could not possibly be friends with someone that went out and killed animals- just would not work.

Wow, really, a lifestyle.........Wow

So, are all your friends vegans? I'm almost at a loss for words that comment ranks pretty high up there as one of the most ridiculous comments I have ever seen on this board.

 

[jking6]

A 10yo kid who kills his mother after arguing over doing his chores has a lot bigger issues than whether or not there's a gun in the house.


I totally agree with this . My husband and my boys love to hunt. Deer and bear only. But they live for hunting season to start. Yes we eat the venison. Not my favorite but i do eat it. I have another son who does not hunt and is school to become a conservation officer.
We all have guns (many as they are 12, 16, 20 gage, muzzel loaders, rifles and etc.) in our houses and they all have kids under 10 and yes the guns are locked away. bullets locked elsewhere. All you need to do is just teach gun safety. The problems with most kids today is the way they are brought up. Respect has been left out in most kids today.
This is just the opinion of a gramma who has never shot a gun but does get excited when they bring home that big buck.
I would rather see my husband bring home a deer on the back of the truck instead of having one on my hood.

 

[Kathi OD]

Not really to me---its a lifestyle. I could not possibly be friends with someone that went out and killed animals- just would not work.

Please explain how hunting is a lifestyle?

Wow, really, a lifestyle.........Wow

So, are all your friends vegetarians? I'm almost at a loss for words that comment ranks pretty high up there as one of the most ridiculous comments I have ever seen on this board.

Not vegetarian...vegan.

 

[Liberty Belle]

are you kidding- 10 year olds are in 6th grade---I think a 6th grade kid realizes when you kill someone that is it!!!
I only know one or 2 people that even own guns and they were houses my daughter was not permitted to go to-one was a cop but there was still a gun in the house and those were my rules.

Most 10 year olds are in 5th grade, but anyway...

I agree that most would understand the finality of shooting and killing someone, but a child with an impulse control problem, could easily get angry and shoot without "thinking", if a gun were available.

My husband has guns. They're locked in a trunk and they have safety locks on each gun. The keys to the trunk and keys to the safety locks are kept in different locations.

 

[mamacatnv]

Please explain how hunting is a lifestyle?



Not vegetarian...vegan.

You are so right I meant that and typed the other . Thanks for the correction

 

[Colleen27]

Not really to me---its a lifestyle. I could not possibly be friends with someone that went out and killed animals- just would not work.

Wow, judgmental much? And really, would you even know? I mean, it would probably come up in casual conversation eventually, but it is hardly something you'd know from first impressions. Are you really saying if you met someone in January and really got along with that person and got to be friends over the winter/spring/summer, you'd drop them if in Nov. they mentioned going on a weekend hunting trip?

 

[Sanchez]

I can't be sure but I think maybe Bicker is calling for random home inspections? Bicker correct me if I'm wrong. And I wouldn't mind that one bit.

Any homes found to have guns randomly laying around.. the guns are removed and the kids are taken to child services.

You are either baiting or seriously do not comprehend key elements of our Constitution.

 

[DonkeyGreatness]

You are either baiting or seriously do not comprehend key elements of our Constitution.

The Constitution gives the right to bear arms. Leaving guns randomly laying around the house is a safety issue and irresponsible parenting. Has nothing to do with the Constitution.

People have the right to drive but that can be taken away because of poor judgment. The same thing should happen with guns.

 

[Colleen27]

The Constitution gives the right to bear arms. Leaving guns randomly laying around the house is a safety issue and irresponsible parenting. Has nothing to do with the Constitution.

People have the right to drive but that can be taken away because of poor judgment. The same thing should happen with guns.

I'm pretty sure he was responding to the "random home inspections" aspect of the post. We do have Constitutional protections against unreasonable search, and that sounds pretty unreasonable on its face.

 

[Sanchez]

The Constitution gives the right to bear arms. Leaving guns randomly laying around the house is a safety issue and irresponsible parenting. Has nothing to do with the Constitution.

People have the right to drive but that can be taken away because of poor judgment. The same thing should happen with guns.

You should look into what constitutes an unreasonable search and seizure and why warrants are necessary.

Let the random home inspections begin!

 

[DonkeyGreatness]

I'm pretty sure he was responding to the "random home inspections" aspect of the post. We do have Constitutional protections against unreasonable search, and that sounds pretty unreasonable on its face.

Unreasonable search and seizure is determined by the judicial branch, not the people.

 

[C.Ann]

There was a tragic accidental shooting not far from here two days before Christmas.. A 12 yr. old boy was playing at his best friends house.. The friend got out his dad's gun (can't remember the specifics - I think the dad was a police officer or maybe a retired police officer) and started fooling around with it - not realizing it was loaded.. The 12 yr.old was shot in the head and died.. The boy who shot him is devastated - as is his family.. A terrible tragedy that didn't have to happen..

To make matters even worse, I just heard on the news tonight that the dead boy's grandfather was struck and killed by a car last night - after having gone to the cemetery to visit his grandson..

We can talk about safety - storing guns properly - teaching children in the home not to touch them - etc., but all it takes is one slip up somewhere along the line and peoples lives are altered forever.. I've never felt that guns and children should be in the home at the same time.. It's simply not a risk I would be willing to take..

 

[luvmy3]

There was a tragic accidental shooting not far from here two days before Christmas.. A 12 yr. old boy was playing at his best friends house.. The friend got out his dad's gun (can't remember the specifics - I think the dad was a police officer or maybe a retired police officer) and started fooling around with it - not realizing it was loaded.. The 12 yr.old was shot in the head and died.. The boy who shot him is devastated - as is his family.. A terrible tragedy that didn't have to happen..

To make matters even worse, I just heard on the news tonight that the dead boy's grandfather was struck and killed by a car last night - after having gone to the cemetery to visit his grandson..

We can talk about safety - storing guns properly - teaching children in the home not to touch them - etc., but all it takes is one slip up somewhere along the line and peoples lives are altered forever.. I've never felt that guns and children should be in the home at the same time.. It's simply not a risk I would be willing to take..

Actually I read the boy loaded the gun himself after finding the clip and he is being charged with manslaughter, the dad charged with endagering the welfare of a child. I cannot believe a Polkice officer (retired or otherwise) would leave a gun and a clip where they could be accessed by a child, he should be charged with more IMHO.
And very sad about the grandfather, from what I read he was disoriented and walked into traffic.
http://www.timesunion.com/local/article/Manslaughter-charge-for-boy-12-922995.php

 

[C.Ann]

Actually I read the boy loaded the gun himself after finding the clip and he is being charged with manslaughter, the dad charged with endagering the welfare of a child.
http://www.timesunion.com/local/article/Manslaughter-charge-for-boy-12-922995.php

That's even worse than I thought.. I was so distraught when I first heard it on the news - very shortly after it happened - I didn't follow up on the story.. Thus my fuzzy recollection.. It was so close to Christmas - I just didn't want to think about what either family was gong through..

Hadn't thought about it again until tonight - when I heard about the grandfather being struck and killed by a car after visiting the cemetery..

Thanks for that link though.. Kind of proves my point.. Kids and guns don't mix.. It's a tragedy that definitely could have been avoided..

 

[Planogirl]

My husband comes from a family of hunters. I don't hunt but I do have cousins that hunt. I'm OK with it personally but I wouldn't do it myself.

All of these people are nice and seem quite normal. They go on trips, work, eat out, see movies, shop and do all of the other things I do. They don't seem to live any differently than others except they hunt sometimes.

 

[snarlingcoyote]

I asked before I let my child go there and to be honest I would have nothing in common with people that hunt so none of my friends are hunters or have guns.

My husband comes from a family of hunters. I don't hunt but I do have cousins that hunt. I'm OK with it personally but I wouldn't do it myself.

All of these people are nice and seem quite normal. They go on trips, work, eat out, see movies, shop and do all of the other things I do. They don't seem to live any differently than others except they hunt sometimes.

Well, their houses are decorated in Cammo from the Cabela's catalog and none of them have above a 6th grade edumacation!

(The members of my DH's hunting club, several of whom have advanced degrees, would beg to differ, of course. )

 

[snarlingcoyote]

Okay, I have a sincere question for the don't kill or shoot or hunt anything peeps. . .

What are you going to do about the over population of some populations of animals that are currently causing ecological nightmares in some parts of the country?

For example, in my DH's hunting club's lease, which is about 2000 acres that includes some 2nd growth swamp (swamp that was cut once about a hundred years ago and is now protected land), they've decided that if they see a hog at any time, they will shoot it dead. The wild hogs have been destroying the environment and are a real menace. (As it's a nuisance animal, you can shoot a pig dead at any time, btw, at least in Louisiana.)

The deer population has exploded recently and the cause seems to be the lack of hunters; if this rise in population continues unabated, the result will be that those very cute rats-with-hooves will start destroying their environment and, my suspicion is that eventually we'd see some sort of disease run through their numbers, something even worse than the evil stuff that's affecting the deer populations in the middle Atlantic right now.

The natural predators of deer and pigs are in small numbers (let's face it, no one wants to have a cougar living near them, and any cougar in a 20 mile radius is really too close if you have small children, pets and/or livestock).

 

[rie'smom]

We've had guns in our home as so have our ancestors for years. No one has ever had an accident. Each child has been taught that guns are not to be used except under adult supervision.

Some people use knives to kill. Should all knives be kept out of the house?

Some use prescription meds to kill, so I guess meds aren't allowed either?

What about the mom who drowned her kids in the bath tub? No tubs

People who kill will use whatever means are available.

 

[KDIPIAZZ]

Here are two things that bother me. (1) if you have guns for personal safety, and they are always locked up nice and tight, how will you get to them if someone breaks into your house? Make them a cup of coffee and ask them to hang on a minute while you open your gun safe? and (2) what if someone has gun permits and owns guns and doesn't store them safely? What is your recourse as a member of the household?

Finally, you may be teaching your children gun safety, but what about when a friend csomes over who is being raised in an entirely different environment? It might not be so safe for your family when that child is around because he might be curious.

1. Very large dogs who think strangers taste like chicken

2. Sorry, I don't understand this.

3. I'm sure some of my child's friends were quite curious about his guns and I'm quite sure some of those children were not raised with the same respect for guns. That's precisely why the guns are stored properly and access is limited to those who know how to handle them.

 

[PrincessKsMom]

Okay, I have a sincere question for the don't kill or shoot or hunt anything peeps. . .

What are you going to do about the over population of some populations of animals that are currently causing ecological nightmares in some parts of the country?

For example, in my DH's hunting club's lease, which is about 2000 acres that includes some 2nd growth swamp (swamp that was cut once about a hundred years ago and is now protected land), they've decided that if they see a hog at any time, they will shoot it dead. The wild hogs have been destroying the environment and are a real menace. (As it's a nuisance animal, you can shoot a pig dead at any time, btw, at least in Louisiana.)

The deer population has exploded recently and the cause seems to be the lack of hunters; if this rise in population continues unabated, the result will be that those very cute rats-with-hooves will start destroying their environment and, my suspicion is that eventually we'd see some sort of disease run through their numbers, something even worse than the evil stuff that's affecting the deer populations in the middle Atlantic right now.

The natural predators of deer and pigs are in small numbers (let's face it, no one wants to have a cougar living near them, and any cougar in a 20 mile radius is really too close if you have small children, pets and/or livestock).

It's a good thing the animals don't have thumbs or they'd be picking you off due to your overpopulation and the destruction you are causing to their habit.