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does disney own miramax?
if so is demension films a wing of miramax?
if not delete this please
if so why didnt they promote the heck out of EQUILIBIRUM i just saw it and that movies kicks some serious booty and shows what a great star christian Bale is cause lord knows he showed only a little in that dragon movie riegn of boredom.

i think its only on 300 screens and i have no idea why the action and actors involved alone would draw a crowd does anyone know?
 
Yes, Disney does own Miramax and Dimension is a division of Miramax. Dimension has done the Scream trilogy and Scary Movie 1 & 2 and mostly does horror/thriller films. I am not sure though why it wasn't promoted. They did the same thing with "Below" earlier this fall. They had both been made quite a while ago and then released just now.
 
Yes, Disney bought Miramax years ago.

Yes, Dimension is a part of Miramax.

Don't know...

AV?
 
thanx for the info guys. i found the movie to be entertaining and i laughed alot at the stunts not cause they were over the top unbelievable "bond" type impossible but because i couldnt believe how much was left someone else hadnt thought of yet. the movie rocked. Christian Bale rocked to think that was the kid from disney's own NEWSIEs and the boredom known as reign of yawwwwn
 

ha ha i just bumped myslef ha ha ha j/k
can someone get madame leota to summon AV from regions beyond i know he's out there somewhere with all the dis scoop......or is it dscoop i need to fill me in on the aw forget it
 
Miramax is named for Harvey Weinstein's (founder) parents: Mira and Max.

They wanted to up their adult oriented offerings. First there was Disney, then they formed Touchstone, after that they formed Hollywood Pictures and finally purchased Miramax.
 
Way back Miramax was a distributor of movies. They bought independent and foreign films and marketed them in the U.S. They were extremely good at it and eventually started winning Oscars for their efforts.

Out in Burbank, a certain Jeffery Katzenberg also wanted to win Oscars, but his boss doesn’t go for those movies where people talk in long sentences. Jeffrey tried and tried to make “important” movies, only to have his boss force him to make films like ‘Outrageous Fortune’. So Jeffery did an end run around his boss and bought Miramax.

Miramax (quality films) and Dimension (films where blood gets more screen time then dialog) run semi-independent of Disney. They can buy and make movies as long as they stay within a predetermined budget. Anything more than that, they have to go ask Michael for permission (which is how Disney lost ‘The Lord of the Rings’). No one can really tell either of the Weinstein brothers what to do (even Eisner), but yanking on the chain to the money is a good way of getting their attention (as with the soon-to-flop ‘Gangs of New York’).

The fate of ‘Equilibrium’ was entirely controlled by Miramax. The buzz is that they figured Americans wouldn’t go for “brainy” science-fiction and so they didn’t spend any money promoting the film. It hit theaters really as part of the campaign for the DVD. Miramax has a way of holding on to movies and then simply dumping them.

If you’re really interested in Miramax and the circus that surrounds it, the current issue of The New Yorker has an article about Harvey Weinstein that’s the buzz of Hollywood.
 
THANK YOU AV and Dznefreek for the information it is greatly appreciated. I enjoyed the film. it was odd to me they promote things not half as good as this movie with lots of commercials and i happened upon this by accident. once again thanx

AV why is it the soon to flop Gangs of New york? cause its out the same week as LOTR? ive been dying to see this pic Daniel Day Lewis kicks some serious butt in those trailers serious butt. did you see it already? give me that scoop pleeeeeeease
 
Notice that the Weinsteins somehow managed to attach themselves to Lord of the Rings as Executive Producers. Voice can you give some insight as to how that works.
 
Gangs of New York
I haven’t had the time to see ‘Gangs of New York’ yet (and probably won’t before its general release) so all I have to go on is the buzz. While everyone agrees that Daniel Day Lewis is great in the role (and has already clenched an Oscar nomination), most people seem to say that the movie has far too much meaningless violence for general public and at $160 million it’s way too expensive for the art house crowd. Miramax pulled out all of their tricks to get all the year-end critical awards it could and that effort has failed completely. If their arm twisting couldn’t work on their own captive audience, it’s not going to work on the general public.

From what I’ve seen I think this movie takes some very inappropriate liberties with the facts. One of my strong pet peeves is movies that have to change reality in order to make their fashionably correct political points. Given the mood of the country (which the Hollywood-New York axis still doesn’t understand), I think the movie won’t find a large audience.


The Lord of the Rings
Peter Jackson spent several years developing LOTR using money from Miramax. In fact Disney spent about $20 million dollars on pre-production costs. When Eisner refused to fund the production of two films and instead ordered them to make a single low budget film of the entire trilogy, Mr. Jackson struck a deal with the Weinsteins. He was granted a few weeks to find a buyer for the film. The buyer had to reimburse Miramax for the development costs and then agree to cut a deal with the Weinsteins personally. Typical Hollywood blackmail. Mr. Jackson found a receptive audience with New Line who agreed to the terms. The brothers were given “producer” credits and a cut of the profit. This means that while the boys are rolling in Hobbit dough, Disney is left holding nothing but dreams about what might have been.

This kind of deal is all too common in Hollywood. While the guilds strictly regulate who is given a director or a writer credit, there are no rules for who can be called a producer. So it’s become a way of siphoning money from studios. Girlfriends, managers, agents, playthings are routinely are given a credit and a check. One of the few good things that Disney has done with ABC is to curtail this on TV shows. It was common practice to give actor’s managers some sort of producer credit and $20,000+ per episode as part of the deal to sign the actor. The managers don’t do a thing on the show; it was just a legal cover for the pay-off.

Before you see ‘The Two Towers’
A few comments for people planning to see the new movie: the films have been created in exactly the same way that J.R.R. Tolkein wrote the books – it’s one long work that has to be artificially broken into three pieces. ‘The Two Towers’ isn’t really a stand-alone movie; it’s simply the middle part of the longer film. The action picks up and continues straight ahead. There are no “last week on…” clips at the beginning or any pauses where the characters sit down talk about what has happened (“of course you remember the incident in the forest when you…”).

Do yourself the favor and watch ‘The Fellowship of the Ring’ before you head out to see ‘The Two Towers’. Better yet, watch the DVD “extended” version of ‘Fellowship’. This cut is half an hour longer than the theatrical release and includes many character moments and plot points that were removed to make ‘Fellowship’ work better as a theatrical experience. The two films flow seamlessly together and having a fresh memory of the first makes the second one work all the better.
 
thank you very much for all the information. hoping daniel day lewis is worth my 5$ bucks(i always go matinee lolol)

thanx for all the info greatly appreciated
 
Wow - $160 Mil to make a movie - and they didn't have enough money for a fresh score?

The TV ads I've been seeing/hearing for 'Gangs' are using the music from the 'Gettysburg' movie that Turner did 10 years or so ago...
 
Originally posted by Bstanley
The TV ads I've been seeing/hearing for 'Gangs' are using the music from the 'Gettysburg' movie that Turner did 10 years or so ago...
Thanks. I knew I had heard that music somewhere before.
 
I am not a movie expert of any kind, but trailers and commercials usually do use old material.

My guess is that the recognizable music is going to grab your attention so you'll pay attention to the trailer.

Rocketeer's soundtrack is one that gets used A LOT.
 
I hear the Midnight Run soundtrack in a lot of trailers and TV commercials for other movies as well.
My guess is that the recognizable music is going to grab your attention so you'll pay attention to the trailer.
I had always wondered why they do this, and this makes a lot of sense. Thanks Scott!
 
It's mostly a timing issue.

The score is one of the very last things which is finished on a movie. The trailer needs to be released long before then to generate interest and excitment in the upcoming film. Therefore the distrubitor will cut the trailer using the best music they can find to fit the mode of new film. They don't want the music to be recognized per se, they want something that gives people an emotion.
 
...most people seem to say that the movie (Gangs of New York) has far too much meaningless violence for general public ...

I've been wondering about how this would be handled. The New York draft riots were absolutely brutal by all accounts. They lasted 7 days and estimates are that several thousand were killed. African-Americans and Police Officers were targeted. Lynchings, dismemberments, etc....

Not exactly PC, and wrought with graphic violence.

One of my strong pet peeves is movies that have to change reality in order to make their fashionably correct political points.
I second that.
 












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