Good Clean Fun or Indecent Exposure

[disney junky]

Friday night, one of our seniors removed his pants and ran from the prom in full view of most of the guests in a tuxedo thong. The principal has suspended him for five days and he will not be able to participate in the commencement ceremony. The debate, of course, from the students' perspective (and I hear there is a petition to allow him to walk with his class) is that this is too harsh. The principal feels as though he's actually cutting the kid a break by not getting the police involved and that actions have consequences.
I side with the principal, but then again I'm old.

Thoughts on the act and the punishment?

 

[Eeyore'sthebest]

Were his private parts covered? Sorry, I can't tell from the post.

If they were covered, then stick him with the 5 day suspension but its ridiculous to bar him from participating in graduation. Its a harmless prank. There was no vandalism done, no property damage, etc. What's the big upset?

Sometimes I think people get too uptight over things now a days.

 

[Pea-n-Me]

I dunno. I guess if they don't deliver harsh punishment, they'll have a lot more stupid pranks than they already have at graduation time.

I thought this one was kind of harsh last year around here: http://www.thebostonchannel.com/news/16338680/detail.html

 

[ckay87]

You really have to specify whether he was in boxers, bikinis, or totally nakie. Cause if he ran through in his undies, I'm not sure that's even against the law.

Edited...ok, I see you specified "tuxedo thong" but I'm afraid I don't know what that is. Not sure I want to, either!

 

[babytrees]

Because it was a school function he should get the same punishment that he would get if he did it at school...which is what it sounds like he is getting.

There is a big bru ha ha at our school because everybody who was caught in the "party" limos will not be participating in graduation (about 20 kids). Same thing...they are getting the same punishment (maybe even less) than if it had actually been on school property.

 

[Serena]

It was a harmless prank and I wouldn't keep the guy from graduation, but they didn't ask me.
There are so many rules out there especially for the kids before graduation. If they pass gas wrong they get kicked from graduation. But it's been like that for many years. The kid knew he would get into trouble and did it anyway.
Like I said, I wouldn't punish him like this, but on the other side, I wouldn't disregard the many warnings all the students have these days either.

 

[JR6ooo4]

I think if falls under the category of *disputive behavior*.

with parents not policing their kids and sueing schools for punishments or for what other kids do, the schools must enact and enforce a zero tolerance policy.

If they do not the next kid will take it too far, and the school will be at fault.

Mikeeee

 

[swald91]

Sounds to me like a harmless prank-wondering if it's been done before-if NOT, I'd say use it as an example for a next time-no participation in graduating. I hate to see the kid not participate (especially if he's never been in trouble) but if it hasn't been done before & it's something that they DON'T want done again make sure the students are well aware of the punishment if it does. JMO!

 

[lovemygoofy]

Well in this day and age where children can't even hug at school I would think a man/kid showing whatever he has in a thong at a school event would be considered sexual harrasment. I do think it's a little excessive but I do understand where the prinicipal is coming from.

 

[horseshowmom]

I guess if they don't deliver harsh punishment, they'll have a lot more stupid pranks than they already have at graduation time.

I think if falls under the category of *disputive behavior*.

with parents not policing their kids and sueing schools for punishments or for what other kids do, the schools must enact and enforce a zero tolerance policy.

If they do not the next kid will take it too far, and the school will be at fault.

Mikeeee

That's it exactly.

 

[PatsMom]

I knew I was probably going to regret it but I googled tuxedo thong to find out what the heck it is. Looks just like a ladies thong -typical butt floss back (although one had tails that covered the cheeks). The front covered all the important parts.

If that is what the kid was wearing, it probably wasn't indecent exposure. Bad taste, but not indecent in my opinon. However, it was disruptive and he knew it would be so I do believe that some punishment is in order. Actions have consequences and teenagers need to learn this IMHO. Not walking with his class might be harsh but could also be appropriate - one valid concern might be what would this kid do to disrupt the graduation ceremony?

 

[PattnFmly]

I think the punishment is too harsh. It was a prank. He was covered. Thong bikini's have less material! Suspension, well ok, I guess you have to have some punishment. But to take away graduation, no way. I agree with a PP ... there was no vandalism, spray painting, no one was hurt, no animals were hurt, nothing was destroyed, it was just plain fun. People get way too worked up nowadays. Let kids have a little fun .. no wonder all these kids are toting guns to school and blowing others away .. they're too stressed out!

 

[Pea-n-Me]

Looks just like a ladies thong -typical butt floss back (although one had tails that covered the cheeks). The front covered all the important parts.

The grown up in me =

The kid in me =

Anyone else?

 

[Parkhopper]

... - one valid concern might be what would this kid do to disrupt the graduation ceremony?

I was going to say that the punishment was way too harsh, but this comment brought up a really good point that I hadn't considered.

Suzi

 

[NotUrsula]

Five will get you ten that he has his graduation prank all planned out and ready to go, so no, he should not be allowed to participate in the ceremony. He has proven that he cannot be trusted to behave like an adult at formal events, so I don't think that he should have the privilege of attending them in the near future.

Essentially, what he did was moon the crowd. I would probably have gone for a shorter suspension since it was not during school hours.

 

[merryweather20]

Were his private parts covered? Sorry, I can't tell from the post.

If they were covered, then stick him with the 5 day suspension but its ridiculous to bar him from participating in graduation. Its a harmless prank. There was no vandalism done, no property damage, etc. What's the big upset?

Sometimes I think people get too uptight over things now a days.

I think people are too uptight nowadays too. We did exactly nothing in High School. For our senior prank we were allowed to do whatever (we brought horses and set up teepees as a protest to having to change the name of our schools team) but the deal was we always had to discuss these things with the janitor first, and we always did. I hear the expression "kids today" but when I hear the kind of things my parents and grandparents did I can't imagine not sitting in jail for half the stunts they pulled

 

[Eeyore'sthebest]

I think people are too uptight nowadays too. We did exactly nothing in High School. For our senior prank we were allowed to do whatever (we brought horses and set up teepees as a protest to having to change the name of our schools team) but the deal was we always had to discuss these things with the janitor first, and we always did. I hear the expression "kids today" but when I hear the kind of things my parents and grandparents did I can't imagine not sitting in jail for half the stunts they pulled

I agree. The junior guys always streaked during senior graduation practice. It was a tradition and everyone looked forward to it. Every year they tried to catch them. They only caught them once when the idiots decided to run through the hallways instead of into the woods. And then they only got suspended for the last few days of school Real harsh punishment. And no, none of us are scarred from it.

 

[ckay87]

I think people are too uptight nowadays too. We did exactly nothing in High School. For our senior prank we were allowed to do whatever (we brought horses and set up teepees as a protest to having to change the name of our schools team) but the deal was we always had to discuss these things with the janitor first, and we always did. I hear the expression "kids today" but when I hear the kind of things my parents and grandparents did I can't imagine not sitting in jail for half the stunts they pulled

Absolutely AND you're right, it's worse as you go back generations. AND between griping about "kids today" my parents will boast about the stuff they pulled. IMO, lots of things were worse back then - pranks, bullying, criminal acts, reckless endangerment (eg., drinking and driving). Unless they are exaggerating. Which is possible.

 

[Tiggeroo]

Yes it's excessive. Senior pranks were always a tradition at every school. They generally don't take place during graduation. You only got into trouble if it was dangerous or did serious damage. If it made a bit of a mess you were forced to clean it up and maybe clean the school or paint lockers. I would say a two day in school suspension is enough. You can't set punishments based on what someone else might do. Steaking is often a tradition. At least he wore a thong. And a tuxedo one at that.

 

[C.Ann]

I've always been a big fan of "natural consequences".. He made a poor choice - and now he has to pay the consequences.. I'm sure there is something in the School Handbook that indicates running around in your underwear is a no-no, so I can't work up much sympathy for him..