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Ok So my freind and her kids go to the kids carnival today and the oldest wins a fish. Well, my freinds afraid her younger kids will do it in so she tells me "I know you have a tank and set up for a fish, how'd you like to keep the fish?" dumbly, I said yes. So right now our little fishy freind is living in a two gallon tank (the big one is 5 but needs a new filter system) and seems happy. I already bought fish food and had hiding rocks from the last fish (tetras). How do I keep this little bugger alive? I told the kids if it makes it a week Ill put it in the bigger tank and get it a freind. So far the cats are enjoying the new "tv". LOL So I need some care tips for what they tell me is a goldfish (but its not gold).
 
Didn't you mention career choices the other day on another thread? You should go to school to be a vet tech. As much as you love animals and enjoy caring for them, you would be great at that.
 
im not a animal person. They just keep finding me:rotfl: Just another quick ?,
What the heck do I do with the fish when I go away for a week? It wont starve to death will it? my pet sitter lives 2 hrs away (the cats and hammy are going there) so fishy cant go.
 
They make food blocks that you put in the water that will last a few days to a week. The pet store carries them.

And really? you aren't an animal person? That's surprising! Did you notice all the animals you have?;) If you don't really want animals, stop saying yes to people that try to drop them off at your door.:goodvibes
 

Im a cat person, that much Ill admit. Im not so much a hamster and fish person but they are cute. AND I HATE dogs. lol
 
Im a cat person, that much Ill admit. Im not so much a hamster and fish person but they are cute. AND I HATE dogs. lol

But the important question is


Do you like monkeys?? :laughing:

Sorry couldn't resist! And sorry I'm no help with the fish, they don't last very long around here. :sad1:
 
We also recently acquired a pet fish. Despite my rule a few years ago that we were not getting anymore things that poop in our house, our pet numbers keep rising. DS (now 23) came home from university one weekend with GF to show us the kitten they got form the mall...not the pet store though...the parking lot. Somebody had found them abandoned under their porch and was trying to find homes. They loved the kitten...great addition to any student house..Right?

Uh..NO! two days later.."Mom...the kitten is so small it won't eat and we can't be with it all the time and it needs help..." Fine. I bring it home and to the vet..poor baby was only 4 - 5 weeks old. I spend the next few weeks nursing this baby and then we actually find it a great home, where he is a happy, healthy 2 year old now. Dodged that bullet.

Then DS's hamster dies...aww..he was cute but a little smelly so I was kinda not missing him that much until some welling meaning dope gives DS aniother one to ease the pain...urgh.

Then DD19 away at college decides a month before coming home that she NEEDS a turtle. And then that the turtle needs a live fish to eat...you know, like he would do in his natural environment. On a weekend home she hijacks me to the pet store to buy a little tiny fish for the Turtle.

I guess you might see where this is going. My 2 DDs (19 an 9) get this fish as far as the car when they go "AWWWWWWW, he is so cute." Now Steve lives in a fish bowl that we keep on the move all the time to keep it out of reach from the cat.

We have never managed to keep a fish past 6 days before so we decided that we should never have fish again and we held little hope for Steve. Stuck him an old fish bowl we had and waited. I don't know what kind of fish Steve is..he is small and goldish. I change the bowl every few days and have no idea what I am doing but Steve is almost a month old now. A record for us.
 
We have a Goldfish that we won two years ago this August and as much as my kids forget to feed it or change the water it is still going strong.
 
We have a Goldfish that we won two years ago this August and as much as my kids forget to feed it or change the water it is still going strong.

Oh good, I tend to forget to feed things that need to be fed daily (cat and hamster have bowls all the time). I hope little bugger lives, hes sorta cute, now if only I could remember what the kids named him (Im bad with names).
 
Goldfish are generally very easy. We have 2 fish tanks, fresh and saltwater, I started with goldfish that I kept in a small tank in my room, no heat, no lights, no filtration, I just changed the water every couple of weeks and washed the rocks. IME goldfish are very easy to take care of, we actually just put 1 in our pond out back, if it makes it a week we will get a few more to keep him company, and DD10 will be very excited. LOL
 
Ahah! Goldfish, my specialty!

Well, in the first place, good for you for putting it into a tank instead of a bowl. However, goldfish are large, messy fish that need big tanks (minimum 10-20 gallons per fish, depending on breed), heavy filtration and oxygenation (they are a pond fish, after all). Goldfish have a horrible reputation and are the last fish that can be kept in bowls or even small tanks. And they can come in many shapes and colors.

First off, here is a great beginner goldfish site that has wonderful, correct information that I link to all the time:

http://kokosgoldfish.com/

Here's the best place to start, it gives you a nice rundown on the basics.
http://www.kokosgoldfish.com/care.html

I'll try to keep this quick. Goldfish are indeed a very hardy fish that can live many years (up to 40+ have been reported, but 10 or so years is the average). However, they are very messy (also called a high bio-load) and need either a large pond with a good surface ratio, or a completely cycled tank of appropriate size with good filtration (a number often referenced as the preferable filtration power is 10*GPH, or gallon per hour. Meaning, if you have a ten gallon tank, for a goldfish you're going to need a filter with at least 100GPH. Though more will not hurt at all).

So while it may be ok in a two gallon for a very short time, it will need an upgrade and soon. How big of a tank it will need depends on the breed. If it is a fancy type, as in having a double tail, ten gallon per fish is the minimum (They'll get to around 4-8 inches generally, though they can get bigger). However, if it is a single tailed type (like most carnival fish are) it's going to need 20 gallons as a minimum (these puppies can push 12 inches and are very active)! So if you do get it into the 5 gallon, please don;t get it a buddy! They are not a schooling fish, and do fine on their own.

Also, due to their high bio-load (aka their giant mess) they absolutely need a cycled tank. Goldfish can push out ammonia so much it rivals other big fish like piraña and oscars. Cycling is a necessary but long process (which I'm assuming you're familiar with since you had neons). Here they go through the process much better than I could and give good tips on cycling with goldfish.
http://www.kokosgoldfish.com/cycle.html

For now, you're going to need to do some heavy duty water changes to keep the water quality within non-lethal ranges (an ammonia level of over 0.5ppm and a nitrate level of over 20ppm can be very detrimental or even lethal for your fish). If you do have a filter, I would recommend a 30-40% waterchange every day until he can get in a properly size tank. If not, you are going to have to do a 80% waterchange.

Other than that, the link I gave you should basically cover it. Here's another good site:
http://thegab.org/Goldfish/goldfish-basics.html

That being said, be careful about information on goldfish you find on the internet. Most of it is ripe with misinformation. Good places to go are aquarium or goldfish boards. Untimatebettas.com, for example, also has exemplary information on goldfish care.

Please, do not hesitate to ask me any questions or concerns you have, I would love to help!
 
I instatuded the NO FISH rule several years ago but nobody ever followed it. It seemed my kids couldn't go to a fair without bringing home a fish. A few years ago my DM (and I am not talking dear this time) let my DD pick out anything she wanted for her birthday and she came home with yet another fish. This time it was a beta named Fredrick. Fredrick died last week after several years.

I have no advice just wanted to let you know you aren't alone!
 
I have been working with a carnival goldfish for 3 years now. Uuuugggghhh.

I will say that I haven't done nearly the stuff that Noni posted but it is all excellent advice. I have two in a 10 gallon tank and it is a lot of work. I do about 50%-75% water change once a week. One of my fish got tail rot last month. I managed to stop that and all is fine. But over the last year, both have lost most of their side fins. They never rotted, they just aren't there. I assume it is due to having two fish in a 10 gallon tank and the water just not being clean enough. Both fish are about 3 inches long.

I don't have the space for a bigger tank, or two tanks so I just make due with this. To me, they are a lot of work. I think my dog is easier.
 
I guess im on the right path, hes got a arriator. If he lives till sat, he will get a filter and move up to a bigger tank. If the 10 gallon has a lid, he can move into that. If not hes going into the five gallon. Could I toss in one of those sucker fish? tank cleaners I believe is what there called. Not a placo but one of those tiny ones I love from walmart (I loved my one sucker fish, moe, He died after a 3 hour car ride in a little oscar cooler, I was moving)
 
I tried one of those sucker fishes once, it didn't live.

We had a goldfish last more than five years. It was the biggest pain in the behind, pretty fish though. He grew. I found myself cleaning the tank quite often, even with the air filter. I got so disgusted with it, I went to the pet store and talked with one of the people who seemed to know what he was doing. He told me that goldfish are "pigs." He said to feed them once a week. Once we did that, he still maintained his size, was healthy and frisky, but we no longer dealt with the nasty green in the tank. I also bought one of those water quality tests, that helped right at the very beginning. Once we adjusted his feeding, we didn't have that problem anymore. Fishy finally passed away about six months ago. If you were nearby, I would say come and get all this stuff that I have left over. It's all good, can't see throwing away things that work.
 
I guess im on the right path, hes got a arriator. If he lives till sat, he will get a filter and move up to a bigger tank. If the 10 gallon has a lid, he can move into that. If not hes going into the five gallon. Could I toss in one of those sucker fish? tank cleaners I believe is what there called. Not a placo but one of those tiny ones I love from walmart (I loved my one sucker fish, moe, He died after a 3 hour car ride in a little oscar cooler, I was moving)

Be careful with 'sucker' fish, especially if you don't know what type. Some that are available at stores like walmart start out little, but get large and aggressive, like chinese suckerfish. Otos, which do stay small, need warmer water (they are tropical, where goldfish are coldwater) and very low ammonia and nitrates, which is hard to achieve with goldfish in anything less than a 30 gallon. The only ones I have heard working well with goldfish are rubber nose or bristlenose plecos (though absolutly no other type of pleco species). However, even though they do eat algea, this really only affects the tank aesthetically, they still add to the bioload (aka poop and take up space) and need an extra 5-10 gallons as well. So to safely house a fancy goldfish and a safe pleco, you would need a minimum 15 gallons. To do so with a common, minimum 25.

If you really do want to keep this fish, a good housing method if you don't have a big enough tank is to keep them in a rubbermaid bin. These are safe for the fish and work well with a canister filter attached. Some people keep them in these as a permanent 'pond' instead of moving them to a tank. If you don't have a canister filter, any filter with at least mechanical and biological filtration (aka foam and biomax) will work as long as it is big enough. Carbon is nice, but not necessary.

Also, find out what type he is. All goldfish get big, but some get huge. Here's a good reference:

http://www.kokosgoldfish.com/ftypes.html

Keep in mind the fist three types get very large (some over a foot!) and need a bare minimum of 20 gallons. If it's a fancy type, the ten gallon will be ok, though if it is an oranda or ryukin it may need a larger tank as it gets older (these fellas can get over 10 inches). Wakins and Jikins also get very big, but are rare and I doubt can be found at fairs.
 
I dont think this is a goldfish, arnt goldfish gold?

Goldfish come in many different colors. They can be orange, red, yellow, white, brown, bronze, calico, red and white, silver black and there are some that even come in a lavender color.
 
hes tan, I wonder if he's a guppy. He looks like it. I will have to take a pitcure to share. DIDNT DIE YET (GASP!!!)
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Ok bad pic, hes not even gold, its reflection from the light.
 


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