going to buy, but what can I get?

[cableguynoe]

So we're pretty sure we'll be buying in out next december trip. Read a lot here and I think I'm prepared and know what I want.
My question is, does playing hard to get work for getting more free stuff?

I was in Vegas a few months ago and they kept trying to get my wife and I to go to a timeshare presentation. I kept saying no, even though they were offering us free stuff. Finally, one guy offered us a free show, a free dinner at a nice place AND $150 American Express gift card , so yeah, i gave them 2 hours of my time, even though I knew I wouldnt buy.

I know Disney offers fastpasses, or something like that, is this correct? Do they offer anything else that I should try to get?

 

[tjkraz]

My question is, does playing hard to get work for getting more free stuff?

For the most part, no. DVC does not haggle over prices or incentives. You're not going to be able to get them to throw in anything of significant value (i.e. park passes, APs, free stays, cash discounts) beyond the standard incentive package being offered to all buyers.

You might be able to get FASTPASSES (although those instant FPs may cease to exist when FASTPASS+ debuts sometime next year), a DVC baseball cap or a dish of ice cream. Depends on what is offered and/or how bold you want to be in asking for something.

Sometimes DVC will offer small gift cards ($50-100) as incentives for taking a tour while at WDW. But the availability of such offers can hinge on how busy they are at the time. When sales are slower, those extra bonuses often appear. They are also more likely to be offered to get people to tour during the peak theme park hours. It's petty easy to book tours for 3-4pm when folks are ready to leave the parks anyway. But the sales center has a lot less traffic at 9-10am. Agreeing to tour during off hours can yield some added bonus.

Of course, the best discount is saving $40-60 per point off of DVC's prices by purchasing resale.

 

[cableguynoe]

For the most part, no. DVC does not haggle over prices or incentives. You're not going to be able to get them to throw in anything of significant value (i.e. park passes, APs, free stays, cash discounts) beyond the standard incentive package being offered to all buyers.

You might be able to get FASTPASSES (although those instant FPs may cease to exist when FASTPASS+ debuts sometime next year), a DVC baseball cap or a dish of ice cream. Depends on what is offered and/or how bold you want to be in asking for something.

Sometimes DVC will offer small gift cards ($50-100) as incentives for taking a tour while at WDW. But the availability of such offers can hinge on how busy they are at the time. When sales are slower, those extra bonuses often appear. They are also more likely to be offered to get people to tour during the peak theme park hours. It's petty easy to book tours for 3-4pm when folks are ready to leave the parks anyway. But the sales center has a lot less traffic at 9-10am. Agreeing to tour during off hours can yield some added bonus.

Of course, the best discount is saving $40-60 per point off of DVC's prices by purchasing resale.

Thanks! I'm going to play bad cop while my wife acts intrested haha.
I'll tell them it's too much time to give up from our VERY expensive trip. We'll see what they offer.

 

[kgc07]

Thanks! I'm going to play bad cop while my wife acts intrested haha.
I'll tell them it's too much time to give up from our VERY expensive trip. We'll see what they offer.

They won't offer any more than the pp said. They will let you walk away.

 

[Lynne M]

I'll tell them it's too much time to give up from our VERY expensive trip. We'll see what they offer.

They won't offer anything other than a couple of fastpasses or a dish of ice cream. The division of the Disney company that sells timeshares couldn't care less what you're paying some other division of the company for your vacation.

Disney's sales presentation isn't like the one in Vegas. It's very low pressure. If you balk, they'll politely say goodbye and let you walk out the door. They don't haggle, they don't give big-ticket incentives. If you don't buy, they know the next person through the door probably will.

However, if you *really* want to save money....like, say, thousands of dollars...check out the resale market. That'll get you a lot more bang for the buck than doing a 'bad cop' act for a bunch of salespeople who see that every day.

 

[disneynutz]

Thanks! I'm going to play bad cop while my wife acts intrested haha.
I'll tell them it's too much time to give up from our VERY expensive trip. We'll see what they offer.

The offered incentives rotate based on the number of sales and their forecast. They inflate the price then offer a discount if you buy x amount of points.

Incentives in the past have been anything from a 7 day cruise to a week stay at SSR to only a family photo and a ice cream.

It all depends on the market. They don't give you anything unless they have to.

Bill

 

[DisneyRegulars]

I would say the one thing you CAN get is your next reservation for whenever it is that you want it, even something like Christmas or Easter week they can sometimes make magically appear. So if you have your next vacation in mind and want to make sure you get that reservation, you can work that into the deal.

 

[Mississippian]

So we're pretty sure we'll be buying in out next december trip. Read a lot here and I think I'm prepared and know what I want.
My question is, does playing hard to get work for getting more free stuff?

I was in Vegas a few months ago and they kept trying to get my wife and I to go to a timeshare presentation. I kept saying no, even though they were offering us free stuff. Finally, one guy offered us a free show, a free dinner at a nice place AND $150 American Express gift card , so yeah, i gave them 2 hours of my time, even though I knew I wouldnt buy.

I know Disney offers fastpasses, or something like that, is this correct? Do they offer anything else that I should try to get?

Forgive me for offering unsolicited advice, but you are likely to pay about 75 percent more to buy directly from Disney than you would to buy resale.

Many of us think the older resorts offer the best value; for example BWV at $60-65 per point. Even BLT has some unstripped contracts at the $90 level, resale. You've got a year to save, just seems a shame to spend an extra $5,000 or so to get a couple of Fastpasses.

 

[cableguynoe]

just seems a shame to spend an extra $5,000 or so to get a couple of Fastpasses.

lol. I'm not doing it to get a couple of fastpasses. I'm just trying to get as much as possible in the process.
Like i stated before, my experience with these guys is that they seem to get paid if they get you to go to the sales presentation. So they'll do whatever it takes for you to agree. But if Disney is different, then so be it. But I'm still going to try.

 

[cableguynoe]

Forgive me for offering unsolicited advice, but you are likely to pay about 75 percent more to buy directly from Disney than you would to buy resale..

I'm not opposed to buying resale. They dont cover that there or give that option?
Where would I look for that?

 

[DebbieB]

I'm not opposed to buying resale. They dont cover that there or give that option?
Where would I look for that?

Resales are Disney's competition, they are not going to give you anything on that, they will try to convince you not to do that if you bring it up.

Look at The Timeshare Store ad at the top of this page.

 

[Deb & Bill]

I would say the one thing you CAN get is your next reservation for whenever it is that you want it, even something like Christmas or Easter week they can sometimes make magically appear. So if you have your next vacation in mind and want to make sure you get that reservation, you can work that into the deal.

Not always. Sometimes they might be able to get you some reservation, but not the exact resort you want.

And, OP, Disney is different when it comes to timeshares.

 

[WilsonFlyer]

lol. I'm not doing it to get a couple of fastpasses. I'm just trying to get as much as possible in the process.
Like i stated before, my experience with these guys is that they seem to get paid if they get you to go to the sales presentation. So they'll do whatever it takes for you to agree. But if Disney is different, then so be it. But I'm still going to try.

I'm not opposed to buying resale. They dont cover that there or give that option?
Where would I look for that?

Due respect, you haven't done near enough reading here and certainly not nearly as much as your OP implied.

We talk about resales 2-3 times on every page every week and if you think there's even a remote chance you'll get any major incentive or special deal at the sales presentation by someone playing "bad cop," you really do have a LOT more research to do.

Disney let's people walk EVERY day. It's their way or the highway. There ARE no special deals. They don't exist. Period. You don't have to like it, and you certainly don't have to buy, but what you do need to know is that it's the truth. After all, you asked us.

Disney is not your everyday timeshare. It has its good and its bad, like everything else, but it's not like most of the others. That's why it's still worth more than a dollar the second you walk out the sales door.

 

[Lynne M]

lol. I'm not doing it to get a couple of fastpasses. I'm just trying to get as much as possible in the process.
Like i stated before, my experience with these guys is that they seem to get paid if they get you to go to the sales presentation. So they'll do whatever it takes for you to agree. But if Disney is different, then so be it. But I'm still going to try.

If you're talking about the guys in the booths at the theme parks and DTD, they have a very limited number of things that they are permitted to offer you as incentives to take the tour. Disney has a very structured, scripted sales process, and they really don't need to give people a lot of free stuff to get them to take the tour. "Whatever it takes" isn't going to happen. As we've said, if you say no thanks, there'll be someone standing right behind you waiting to sign up to take the tour.

If you really, really, really press the issue with the guy, he might cough up an extra fastpass, or a low-value gift card. Maybe.

 

[Lynne M]

I'm not opposed to buying resale. They dont cover that there or give that option?
Where would I look for that?

There are two ways to buy DVC...or any timeshare, really.

1. You can buy a contract direct from the developer. In this case, that would be Disney Vacation Development (DVD), the timeshare development arm of the Disney company. You buy at full price, no haggling, no special, under-the-table deals because you played good cop/bad cop.

2. You can buy a contract that was formerly owned by someone else, and that the former owner has put up for sale. This is 'resale'. You purchase through a realtor that handles timeshares, like The Timeshare Store. In a sense, it's like buying a home, in that you can negotiate price, who pays closing, all that stuff.

In the coming year, I'd recommend doing a lot of research on the differences between the two options, on selecting your home resort, and on exactly what you get when you buy DVC. Meaning, what you're guaranteed under the contract (the right to stay at your home resort subject to availability), and what's not guaranteed (everything else).

 

[cableguynoe]

Thanks for all the info. Yes, i was asking about the guys in the booth. Just wanted to know how much I can squeeze out of them since I've done it before(not on purpose, just worked out that way.) So if I can get extra fastpasses, then im going to try. I do remember those guys being a little persistent a few years ago when my wife was trying to pin trade with them, but we werent interested at the time.

As far as the other stuff, I do understand how disney works, and that they dont really need to give stuff away. That's why I dont understand why they've given me free dining for the past 3 years even though I was going anyway... but i'll take it.

My wife is the one that says we're buying, since we go every year. She's the sugar mama, so she gets her way. But i'll definately be looking into resale.
We go the same time every year, so if resale works for us, them I'm all for it.

 

[cableguynoe]

You buy at full price, no haggling, no special, under-the-table deals because you played good cop/bad cop.

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Just going to play good cop/bad cop with the guys in the booth.

 

[Deb & Bill]

Thanks for all the info. Yes, i was asking about the guys in the booth. Just wanted to know how much I can squeeze out of them since I've done it before(not on purpose, just worked out that way.) So if I can get extra fastpasses, then im going to try. I do remember those guys being a little persistent a few years ago when my wife was trying to pin trade with them, but we werent interested at the time.

As far as the other stuff, I do understand how disney works, and that they dont really need to give stuff away. That's why I dont understand why they've given me free dining for the past 3 years even though I was going anyway... but i'll take it.

My wife is the one that says we're buying, since we go every year. She's the sugar mama, so she gets her way. But i'll definately be looking into resale.
We go the same time every year, so if resale works for us, them I'm all for it.

Oh, by the way, if you stay on DVC points, there is no free dining. Ever. DVC and Disney Resort (with free dining) are two different companies.

 

[tjkraz]

lol. I'm not doing it to get a couple of fastpasses. I'm just trying to get as much as possible in the process.

Like the others said, Disney isn't likely to offer much. They know that Disney park fans will go to extraordinary lengths to save money. If they offered anything of substantial value as a reward for touring, people would jump at the opportunity. However, Disney would then be obligated to invest more in a larger sales staff while their closing percentages would drop.

In other words, they'd spend a lot more (incentives, staffing) to sell about the same amount of product.

Every so often they'll offer the $50-100 gift cards as an incentive for taking the tour. But reports of that are few and far between.

As for the actual tour and sales pitch, there's zero room for haggling. You could dig your heels in over $2 per point and it will get you nowhere. Pricing is completely non-negotiable.

 

[chalee94]

Just going to play good cop/bad cop with the guys in the booth.

the guys at the kiosks can't even discuss price, so that would be silly.

if it amuses you to put on a show once you talk to the salespeople, knock yourself out...but as others have said, DVC salespeople don't have leeway in pricing that other timeshares might have. your naivete would be showing...