Girls Only Disneyland Trip - Old Thread

[lulubelle]

Hugs to you Kelly, like the others said....stay strong.

I don't know what candy to bring. I have to think about it. DD & I don't eat chocolate. I know, I know, you all may boot us out of the group....but we will bring something non-chocolate that is yummy!

The high school stories are bringing back memories. Man, did we all do some stupid things or what? The first time my sister and I sneaked booze from my dad's cabinet we had no idea what was what and so we picked the fullest bottle. Well, it was Vermouth. BLECH!!! But we didn't know, we thought it was vodka or something. Ended up getting sick we did. Served us right. Also remember being with a group of older kids at the beach and they were smoking. They offered me one and I was like "Sure, oh ya, I smoke, I'm cool". After inhaling (cause you were busted as a non smoker if you didn't) most of the cigarette, I...guess what...yup, barfed. I didn't smoke again for several years. I was a closet smoker for about ten years when DD was small. Thank God I quit about ten years ago. DH struggles with it to this day.

 

[DangerMouse]

Oh my gosh, I'm loving all these teenager tell-alls from you ladies. More! More!

Well, I already told some of mine. Came from a pretty religiously conservative home which just happened to include divorce, remarriage and drugs. Had no father figure so looked to boys for affirmation and love. Ran away from home at age 15 with my 19 year old boyfriend. Ended up pregnant. Had a baby. Gave her up for adoption. Even after all that I was still rebellious when it came to boys and partying. My mom ended up relinquishing some control which helped me stop sneaking so much. We came to an understanding and balance of power, I think.

After being a super promiscuous and partying teenager, I am about as conservative and straight arrow as you can get now. Who knew?

 

[fairykin]

Kelly

Try not to speak of her mother to her. When You do..without knowing it..you create an advisoral position between the two of You. It places her mother in a place of not being there to defend herself so lynn must then defend her mother.

And she will. Because her mother is HER MOTHER. That is a Very Very strong bond no matter the level of dysfunction.

So if you take that off the table.. and don't mention her mother..that is one less conflict you will have.

Try to create threads of commonality rather than *******. It is a challenging situation.

So she's failing. Don't give her a reason to drop out of school. There is summer school. She can have a bright future before her. It is better she finds Haven at home rather than seeking it by running away.

Perhaps speak to her of the nature of fragile. How at this time in our nations history we as a people are fragile that vulnerability places strain on families. Speak to her of her important place within your family. Speak to her of how her younger sisters look to her. Let her know that although she is failing school ... she can still graduate.. and she's not the first to go to summer school.

Maybe she's not sneaking out for smoking or drinking or sex. She might she be seeking a place of acceptance.

*Hugs*
Go for a walk and find a worry stone to keep with you. Just a little stone to hold within your hand for when you are worried.. rub it and repeat a mantra that is soothing to your spirit. It could be a prayer or a verse.

 

[mommaU4]

I am undecided still. There are so many yummy ones

I know! I might have to bring a couple since I can't pick just one. LOL

I'm surprised you aren't still grounded.

I talked my way out of it. I was good at that.

Beth, on the other hand....she still is naughty.

Ssshhhhhh, don't tell them!

 

[mommaU4]

Well I've already warned Beth that I'm going to keep her in line!

More whips!!!

My boyfriend spent 6 hours in my closet when I was a junior in HS. My parents came home early from a deacon's dinner. I snuck him food, and about an hour after my parents were sleeping, he was able to leave.

Uh oh January, I hope the Dis police don't get you! ::cop: This is a family site you know!!!

Nah, the DIS police already have their eye on Stacie.

I am sooooooooooOOOooooOOOooo excitted about the candy buffet. I think it is so kewl.. what a great idea!

I'm excited too!!!

 

[mommaU4]

Thanks everyone for being understanding. It means a lot!

We are here for ya! I know it's got to be hard. And I can see how you'd worry what's just normal teen stuff and what's taking it too far, but hang in there. Hopefully she will be ok in the end.

I don't know what candy to bring. I have to think about it. DD & I don't eat chocolate. I know, I know, you all may boot us out of the group....but we will bring something non-chocolate that is yummy!

There are lots of yummy non-chocolate candies!!

After being a super promiscuous and partying teenager, I am about as conservative and straight arrow as you can get now. Who knew?

Wow Callie, I had no idea. You've been through a lot. I never would have guessed it. You do seem very straight and conservative now! lol

 

[cccdisney]

I still haven't heard from Lorealle as to what time we can start getting set up. I can't imagine the people using it during the day would be in there much into the evening though. I'm thinking (hoping) we are able to get in to set up around 4 or 5, and it can start around 6. In any case, you'll still be able to catch us there! We'll still be there eating, drinking and pigging out on candy.

GREAT! Count me in! I will think about a candy and then pm you with my choice!

OK, multi-quote lesson time:

Thanks for the lesson! I think I got it - not too hard at all!

I just love all these smilies! Almost as much as I love chocolate!

 

[bumbershoot]

Is there such a thing as nyquil having reverse effects on a person?

Sure. Medicine can have all sorts of effects.

Not to mention that nyquil has high fructose corn syrup in it, and I don't have to bore you all with DS's reactions to corn syrup and HFCS. His dentist once made him take a prescription benadryl-like thing b/c, oh noes, DS was looking all around the first time he was out in the main room (instead of the "baby" room which is where they do work, too). Was supposed to calm him down. Didn't. He got more and more amped up during the appt for work (which was done in the baby/work room augh) and spent the rest of the day running around in circles.

I later asked a pharmacist about it all and he said that just about anything syrupy is syrupy b/c of corn syrup and/or HFCS, and that's just the way it is for syrup medicines.

So DS will never be able to have nyquil even if we wanted him to, and hubby probably shouldn't either b/c of his blood sugar reactions to HFCS (though at least with him, he passes out when he has corn syrup products...so we could just give him a spoonful of HFCS instead of the Nyquil and it would have the same effect! here's your medicine, a Coca Cola!).

All that to say, could have been a reaction to the medicine, could have been the inactive ingredients.

And the fact that you did later fall asleep could have been the medicine finally taking over the reaction to the HFCS.

Or you just didn't want to fall asleep.

As far as valentines I know someone asked about that and that is Shane and I's anniversary. It sounded like a good idea at the time and honestly I picked that day back then because it was a three day weekend but some days I wish we never would have gotten married on that day because it makes it practically impossible to go out to eat even without reservations made WAY in advance....

So once again our anniversary got put on the back burner. It just sucks cuz this always happens.

I would recommend a half-anniversary, like a half-birthday for those kids whose b'days are on Dec 25 and choose to have the party in June.

OR, and I like this better, do what former friends of ours did to celebrate a different day. For some reason, they missed their first valentine's day together, so one of them decided to surprise the other with a celebration for it later in the year. And now it's a yearly thing. One year one is the surpriser, then they switch. The surpriser chooses a day and chooses something, and then creates the surprise for the other. Anything from dinner to covertly getting the days off for the other person and whisking them away on a getaway.

Since you have a clump of money-spending-occasions all in a row, it's time to do something like that. Celebrate when you have the money, just DO IT, and make that the celebration. No plans in the future you have to cancel, or plans in the future but put that money away, lock it up, not to be used for anything else.

I mean, I'm not big on anniversaries, they just don't mean all that much to me and I don't tweak about sitting around. BUT TO YOU, it's IMPORTANT. And you are important. So since it is important to you that you celebrate, you and hubby need to make sure that *something* is done, even if that something happens when you have the money, not just on that exact day.

 

[DangerMouse]

Why this posted a second time, I have NO idea??

 

[LittleBlackRaincloud]

Kelly

Try not to speak of her mother to her. When You do..without knowing it..you create an advisoral position between the two of You. It places her mother in a place of not being there to defend herself so lynn must then defend her mother.

And she will. Because her mother is HER MOTHER. That is a Very Very strong bond no matter the level of dysfunction.

So if you take that off the table.. and don't mention her mother..that is one less conflict you will have.

Try to create threads of commonality rather than *******. It is a challenging situation.

So she's failing. Don't give her a reason to drop out of school. There is summer school. She can have a bright future before her. It is better she finds Haven at home rather than seeking it by running away.

Perhaps speak to her of the nature of fragile. How at this time in our nations history we as a people are fragile that vulnerability places strain on families. Speak to her of her important place within your family. Speak to her of how her younger sisters look to her. Let her know that although she is failing school ... she can still graduate.. and she's not the first to go to summer school.

Maybe she's not sneaking out for smoking or drinking or sex. She might she be seeking a place of acceptance.

*Hugs*
Go for a walk and find a worry stone to keep with you. Just a little stone to hold within your hand for when you are worried.. rub it and repeat a mantra that is soothing to your spirit. It could be a prayer or a verse.

One thing I have to say since it keeps coming up here is this: My parents were divorced, and the Dad I speak of often (the preacher) adopted me. My mother through the years has said not so nice things about my biological father to me. It always hurts me deeply. He's a bad alcoholic, and has made terrible decisions, but the fact is....she loved him at one point enough to create me, and no matter how 'horrible' she perceives him to be, he is my biological father. Part of him and his family lives in me. When my mother criticizes him, it's like she's saying bad things about me because I am part of him. When I pointed that out to her, she stopped. I'm allowed to say things about him, but she isn't. His actions affected her when I was a child, but they weren't part of her. On the other hand, she couldn't tell me that the whole relationship with him was a mistake, where would that put me? A mistake? I think not. You DH is torn in this way also. This is just my POV.

 

[mommaU4]

I just love all these smilies! Almost as much as I love chocolate!

I added you to the list for the pizza party. Oh, and way to go on the multi-quote!

 

[bumbershoot]

I'm allergic to walnuts and pecans too, but only if they are raw. Once they are cooked, I'm ok with them. What happens to Marty when he eats them? My mouth and throat get all itchy and scratchy.

Marty gets the itchy-scratch mouth and throat, and his sister gets really bad canker sores. So we pretty much keep walnuts out of the house.

Interesting to hear that the throat stuff and canker sore stuff happens to others.

As a kid my mom kept raw peanuts around. SHE could control herself with them. I never have been able to, and when I eat too many raw peanuts I get canker sores too. Doesn't happen when I control how many I eat, and doesn't happen with non-raw peanuts.

However, if I take Lysine, I get over the problems and can eat more.

 

[bumbershoot]

One thing I have to say since it keeps coming up here is this: My parents were divorced, and the Dad I speak of often (the preacher) adopted me. My mother through the years has said not so nice things about my biological father to me. It always hurts me deeply. He's a bad alcoholic, and has made terrible decisions, but the fact is....she loved him at one point enough to create me, and no matter how 'horrible' she perceives him to be, he is my biological father. Part of him and his family lives in me. When my mother criticizes him, it's like she's saying bad things about me because I am part of him. When I pointed that out to her, she stopped. I'm allowed to say things about him, but she isn't. His actions affected her when I was a child, but they weren't part of her. On the other hand, she couldn't tell me that the whole relationship with him was a mistake, where would that put me? A mistake? I think not. You DH is torn in this way also. This is just my POV.

Since my mom never did speak badly about my father (he tried to about her though, until she died, at which point she became Saint Judy, the one he never should have let go, blah blah blah, and he says these things in front of my stepmom ) I had ample opportunity to see what he was like. And I think that is MUCH healthier. I know very well what he's like, good and bad and nasty.

When my dad would try to say rotten things about my mom, well he was usually lying, but all it did was make me angry at HIM. Even when I didn't know if he was right, I just became more and more unsure about him...and then the times I asked my mom about it and he was proven wrong, it just made it less important to me. He's still trying to do that about one aspect of her life, and it's really annoying, but now he's not saying it nastily, just saying it was part of "her" hippie ideals (like he wasn't the one that took her to San Francisco after marrying at 17 and 19).

Anyway, it's best to let kids figure out their parents' faults on their own, most definitely.

I was also able to figure out on my own where I had to be careful...temper, overeating, overdrinking...all issues with my dad, and all things I have to keep in check. Oh, and bird watching. My dad's entire family bird-watches, and as a kid it tortured me (boooorrrrinnnngggg) but now I catch myself noticing birds. I'd almost rather still punch walls than do that!

 

[fairykin]

YiPpEy!

I cashed in $50 of my Disney Rewards for the girls only trip..that will take care of some lunches!

hhhhhmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.. it says i need to call to activate it. Perhaps i should wait til closer to the trip?

 

[LittleBlackRaincloud]

YiPpEy!

I cashed in $50 of my Disney Rewards for the girls only trip..that will take care of some lunches!

hhhhhmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.. it says i need to call to activate it. Perhaps i should wait til closer to the trip?

Yay! That's exciting!

I don't know anything about activating them, but woohoo, free food!

 

[LittleBlackRaincloud]

Since my mom never did speak badly about my father (he tried to about her though, until she died, at which point she became Saint Judy, the one he never should have let go, blah blah blah, and he says these things in front of my stepmom ) I had ample opportunity to see what he was like. And I think that is MUCH healthier. I know very well what he's like, good and bad and nasty.

When my dad would try to say rotten things about my mom, well he was usually lying, but all it did was make me angry at HIM. Even when I didn't know if he was right, I just became more and more unsure about him...and then the times I asked my mom about it and he was proven wrong, it just made it less important to me. He's still trying to do that about one aspect of her life, and it's really annoying, but now he's not saying it nastily, just saying it was part of "her" hippie ideals (like he wasn't the one that took her to San Francisco after marrying at 17 and 19).

Anyway, it's best to let kids figure out their parents' faults on their own, most definitely.

I was also able to figure out on my own where I had to be careful...temper, overeating, overdrinking...all issues with my dad, and all things I have to keep in check. Oh, and bird watching. My dad's entire family bird-watches, and as a kid it tortured me (boooorrrrinnnngggg) but now I catch myself noticing birds. I'd almost rather still punch walls than do that!

exactly! That's so funny about the bird watching also! Who knew it was genetic??

 

[fairykin]

Heather.. *hugs*
Thanks for your insight and thoughtful reply.

Kelly,
As for the anniversary thing.. Heyyyyyyyyyy... we've had anniversaries where we were soooo poor it was a treat to have frozen chinese food.
And then we have had some at 5 star resturants. After all these years.. i still remember the ones when we were so poor and had the crummy chinese. I can't even remember what we had at the fancy resturant.
Sometimes anniversaries are about... hey babe, we made it through some challenges this year, and there is noone i would want to go through it than You! who says 10 years is the magical number..maybe it's 11!

 

[DangerMouse]

YiPpEy!

I cashed in $50 of my Disney Rewards for the girls only trip..that will take care of some lunches!

hhhhhmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.. it says i need to call to activate it. Perhaps i should wait til closer to the trip?

Ooooh, I thanks for the reminder. Off to check my rewards balance. . .

 

[fairykin]

how excitting..this is going to be a Fun first trip for you, Heather!

Ooohh the shirts turned out nicely.. so i won't have to draw tinkerbell stick figures, WendyLouWho.

I'm going to try to put some sparkles on them later in the week. The twinikins come over tomorrow afternoon and stay the night. So it's shrimp night.. they LoVe shrimp!

 

[LittleBlackRaincloud]

how excitting..this is going to be a Fun first trip for you, Heather!

Ooohh the shirts turned out nicely.. so i won't have to draw tinkerbell stick figures, WendyLouWho.

I'm going to try to put some sparkles on them later in the week. The twinikins come over tomorrow afternoon and stay the night. So it's shrimp night.. they LoVe shrimp!

Speaking of sparklies, when I first came around these parts, someone mentioned have a table set up at the pizza party for us to sit and bling up our shirts. Any thoughts on this? Would anyone be interested?