Girl Scouts - Privacy Rules

[dispor]

Also it would set a precedence that the camp need to give into the "demands" of a few.

If it's such a "few" that want private changing areas, then it wouldn't take up much space at all, would it?

 

[Lilogirl]

I'm not speaking of individual troop activities but specifically camp where there are many more girls participating in activities. As I said in another post, it would take up too much room and cost too much.

In your opinion.

My opinion is modesty should be encouraged. I thought Girl Scouts were taught things like that, I know I was when I was a Girl Scout. When did Girl Scouts cut out the girls feelings to save a buck?

 

[Imzadi]

That is a good option. She knows how to change under a large shirt. She could just carry one of her dad's shirts with her and put it on to change under for swimming. I will ask her if that will satisfy her.

I hope that the t-shirt accomodation will be enough for her, and I suspect that is where we will land on this issue.

Have her practice at home a few times and go buy a different suit if the one she currently wears has straps that need to be tied or something, where it makes it difficult to change under the T-shirt.

 

[The Mystery Machine]

In your opinion.

My opinion is modesty should be encouraged. I thought Girl Scouts were taught things like that, I know I was when I was a Girl Scout. When did Girl Scouts cut out the girls feelings to save a buck?

That is funny. Answer is....

When they depended on corporations to fund Girl Scouting.

Heck as leaders we couldn't even "donations".

I loved being a leader for my girls but with all the restrictions and time constraints, it just sucks.

I AM DONE THIS YEAR.... No more Girl Scouting for me. It will be the first year out of 12 that I haven't been a cookie mom.

 

[sha_lyn]

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That is funny. Answer is....

When they depended on corporations to fund Girl Scouting.

Heck as leaders we couldn't even "donations".

I loved being a leader for my girls but with all the restrictions and time constraints, it just sucks.

I AM DONE THIS YEAR.... No more Girl Scouting for me. It will be the first year out of 12 that I haven't been a cookie mom.

LOL.... I am seriously considering never volunteering for camp again. The are just too many parents wanting us to make exceptions for their girls be it wanting private changing areas, wearing what they want to wear instead of what is required, being dropped off or picked up somewhere other than the carpool area etc.


IE the camp shirts are color coded. the girl scout campers have one color, the boys unit another and the pixies (potty trained girls and boys that are too young to be registered scouts or too young to be in the boys unit). Both the pixies and the boys are staff(all volunteers) kids only. Also the adults have a different color. Then each unit has their own color bandanna that is to be worn in a visible location. All this helps us keep the kids where they are suppose to be and helps us identify anyone that doesn't belong. However we will have girls that don't wear their camp shirt beyond the first day because mom won't wash it etc.

Our camp is far off the main rd on a one lane gravel road. Near the main rd there is a corp of engineers campground and boat ramp. we have parents drop the kids in the main parking lot there, we then bus them down to the boat ramp and they take a pontoon boat to the camp. We have parents who insist on either driving down to the boat ramp or driving to the camp. for pick-up each parent has to have a paper plate that is color coded with their child(rens) unit(color matches the bandanna color) and has the campers individual camper id number on it. We'll have parents get out of their cars and try to walk over to the group of kids instead of waiting for us to bring the kids to them.

I am so sick of telling parents that the rules are there for a reason. Many of them to keep all the children, including theirs, safe. Sure some of the rules are just for our convenience, but so what. If they don't like the rules they can volunteer to be in charge next yr.

 

[The Mystery Machine]

I am so sick of telling parents that the rules are there for a reason. Many of them to keep all the children, including theirs, safe. Sure some of the rules are just for our convience, but so what. If they don't like the rules they can volunteer to be in charge next yr.

Ha! Like that would happen. You know, you deal with it as best you can without going crazy.

 

[Geoff_M]

LOL.... I am seriously considering never volunteering for camp again. The are just too many parents wanting us to make exceptions for their girls be it wanting private changing areas, wearing what they want to wear instead of what is required, being dropped off or picked up somewhere other than the carpool area etc.

My wife can relate! She worked as a Village Director at our local resident Cub Scout Camp (kids stayed 3 days and 2 nights) before we had kids and she quickly realized that the how well each session would go was inversely proportional to the number of mothers that would come along with each Pack! Dads seemed to be "no problem".

 

[Mr. & Mrs. Smith]

Yes I believe it is asking too much.
I can only speak in generals or from the prospective of how it would affect out day camp.
It would cost too much for one. Take up too much room for another.

It would cost too much and take up too much room to pin some sheets up to a couple of trees as a make-shift change room? That's absurd.

 

[The Mystery Machine]

It would cost too much and take up too much room to pin some sheets up to a couple of trees as a make-shift change room? That's absurd.

Are you going to come and supervise?

 

[KirstenB]

Our dd who's 10 now went through a similar phase a few years ago during swim team. There were 2 changing rooms for 30 girls. So her younger sister and I would waste about 20 minutes waiting for older dd each practice. After that season, she went back to doing what most of the other kids did, which was wear sweats home over the swimsuit, or change out in the open.

 

[sha_lyn]

Ha! Like that would happen. You know, you deal with it as best you can without going crazy.

LOL tell me about it. The one and only mother in our troop to complain about how we handle things on the troop level is a mother that has never volunteered for anything, wanted us to break cookie sale rules for her girls, constantly shows up late to pick her girls up etc. We told her that if she doesn't like the way things are ran she can take on a position in the troop, show up for parents meetings etc.

I take that back she did go as our certified life guard to Savannah but she complained about every single thing and compared everything to how the boy scouts would do and the BS would do it better. My breaking point was when we were waiting for our birthplace tour. We were sent to a local park for a scavenger hunt. This mom decided that she and her 2 girls would do the hunt alone and she grabbed the paper away from one of the other girls. I tried to get her to give it back but she gave it to one of her girls and they took off on the hunt. I had to walk away because I was about to make a scene.

It is so bad that one leader almost quit the troop because she doesn't want to deal with this mother anymore. We convinced her to keep her girls in and to remain our treasurer. Another mom who has stepped up to be a leader this yr has offered to handle this one mother because the rest of us are tired of dealing with her.

 

[sha_lyn]

It would cost too much and take up too much room to pin some sheets up to a couple of trees as a make-shift change room? That's absurd.

Are you volunteering to come clear and keep clear the wooded areas from poinson oak/ivy, scorpoins, bees, wasp, spiders etc?

 

[sha_lyn]

My wife can relate! She worked as a Village Director at our local resident Cub Scout Camp (kids stayed 3 days and 2 nights) before we had kids and she quickly realized that the how well each session would go was inversely proportional to the number of mothers that would come along with each Pack! Dads seemed to be "no problem".

LOL so it must be the parent that is the opposite gender of the child in most situations. The ones we have the most trouble with in carpool are the dads.
They don't see why it is such a big deal for them to drive onto the campground, walk around the pick-up area, come wait on the dock etc.

 

[JVL1018]

In my dd's middle school you have to "dress out" as part of your grade. PE is every other day here for the most part.

My dd got a tardy for her first day. Her gym bag got stuck in the locker.

We changed in the locker room in middle and high school, but there was no getting naked. You had underwear on.
I would have died of mortification if I had to get naked in front of my whole class. Underwear on, I had no problem with, and neither did anyone else as far as I can recall. No one was taking it all off though, not once in all my years of changing in gym class.
I still would never get naked in a locker/changing room. Ack! That's totally different than changing your outer clothes only.

 

[Mr. & Mrs. Smith]

Are you going to come and supervise?

To supervise what exactly? It's not like you have to watch the kid get changed behind the curtain any more than you would if she were getting changed in front of it.

I already do volunteer to supervise lots of youth events. In fact, quite often I am the only volunteer. So I do my part, thanks.

Are you volunteering to come clear and keep clear the wooded areas from poinson oak/ivy, scorpoins, bees, wasp, spiders etc?

I'm confused. Wouldn't you have to do that anyway since the girls are getting changed there without the curtain? I don't get it. Where are the girls currently changing?

 

[sha_lyn]

As I have already said, they get changed in a tent. I have never once said they get changed in the woods.

 

[Mr. & Mrs. Smith]

As I have already said, they get changed in a tent. I have never once said they get changed in the woods.

Then that's even easier, isn't it? You can just tack up a sheet in the tent. Problem solved. I'm really not understanding why that is such a big deal.

And for the record, do you get changed in front of everyone too?

 

[sha_lyn]

Then that's even easier, isn't it? You can just tack up a sheet in the tent. Problem solved. I'm really not understanding why that is such a big deal.

And for the record, do you get changed in front of everyone too?

How would that solve anything? 1 unit at a time goes into the tent. Each unit is 12-15 girls.
As I already said the leaders either go into the tent without the girls or can go to the office bathroom. We do not change in front of the girls, but do change in front of each other. Had one mother from our troop that won't volunteer again because of the lack of privacy. The fact is when you have that many people together trying to get ready in a short period, one needs to either step out of their comfort zone a little or not participate.

Also as I have already stated, I have changed clothes in front of other women in locker rooms at both Golds gym and another gym.

 

[ROIE01581]

i have always changed in a stall for my entire life. Even in High school. I also did not shower with other girls. I would not shower if I have too share. I hate it when women walk around the gym locker room with nothing on. I would rather go home to shower and change.

My daughter went to a summer camp with she was little and they had to change in a large room. She did not swim. I had a someone at a YMCA ask me if there was a problem that my daughter wanted to change in a stall all the time. And I said yes, she has values.

 

[Mr. & Mrs. Smith]

How would that solve anything? 1 unit at a time goes into the tent. Each unit is 12-15 girls.
As I already said the leaders either go into the tent without the girls or can go to the office bathroom. We do not change in front of the girls, but do change in front of each other. Had one mother from our troop that won't volunteer again because of the lack of privacy. The fact is when you have that many people together trying to get ready in a short period, one needs to either step out of their comfort zone a little or not participate.

Also as I have already stated, I have changed clothes in front of other women in locker rooms at both Golds gym and another gym.

What do you mean how would that solve anything? If you tacked up a curtain in the corner of the tent for those who want privacy to use, that would solve the OP's problem?

So, leaders are allowed to change in the bathroom? In other words, they can have privacy if they want but the children aren't given the same respect?