UWAs are great. I picked up the Sigma 8-16mm last year and it's an absolute blast to use (though, it does require some exposure compensation at times, especially down at 8mm). After the Kit + Zoom + Fast Prime, one of these (there are a lot of very good ones) would be my first suggestion to anyone. Possibly even more so than the zoom depending on style.Just bought a 10-22 mm lens for my T4i yesterday; cannot wait for it arrive so I can expand my shots!
UWAs are great. I picked up the Sigma 8-16mm last year and it's an absolute blast to use (though, it does require some exposure compensation at times, especially down at 8mm). After the Kit + Zoom + Fast Prime, one of these (there are a lot of very good ones) would be my first suggestion to anyone. Possibly even more so than the zoom depending on style.
I have a 10-24, they are far. But doesn't get a ton of use. I'd recommend upgrading the kit before going to UWA. I'd also consider a Macro lens more important, but totally depends on your shooting style. Along the lines of Zoom --> fast prime ---> upgraded kit (a 16-55 2.8 for example) ---> Macro (if you want to do super close up shots) ----> UWA/and/or/fisheye.
The Canon 18-55 and the 18-135 kit lenses are actually a solid lenses. Lots of people dog on them but it is very capable of producing great shots in the right hands. I'd go with the UWA to complete my focal range before worrying about upgrading the kit myself. But it's all about what is important to the individual.
havoc315 said:Very true, and I do think at times kit lenses are underrated. I can't speak specifically to Canon, but in general terms, my motivation for upgrading the kit lens comes down to the 2.8 aperture. I don't like *needing* a flash indoors, so the 2.8 gives me much more freedom. If that isn't an issue, then I have found kit lenses provide totally adequate sharpness.
I've rarely used by UWA (but in fairness, haven't owned it that often). I'm glad I have it, I have gotten some great pictures with it. But for my own personal shooting style, I've used a macro much more. Really comes down to the individual's shooting style.
I was wondering about the flash indoors issue. I don't like the look if pics with the flash. They look unnatural. I have a Canon 50 mm/1.8 lens and find that even with that the inside pics aren't as sharp unless I use a flash. Any advise?
Very true, and I do think at times kit lenses are underrated. I can't speak specifically to Canon, but in general terms, my motivation for upgrading the kit lens comes down to the 2.8 aperture. I don't like *needing* a flash indoors, so the 2.8 gives me much more freedom. If that isn't an issue, then I have found kit lenses provide totally adequate sharpness.
I've rarely used by UWA (but in fairness, haven't owned it that often). I'm glad I have it, I have gotten some great pictures with it. But for my own personal shooting style, I've used a macro much more. Really comes down to the individual's shooting style.
photo_chick said:Are they soft because of motion blur or are they soft because of poor focus?
I don't think it's either. I seem to be getting good focus and there's no motion blur. They just don't seem as sharp without the flash as with.
I was wondering about the flash indoors issue. I don't like the look if pics with the flash. They look unnatural. I have a Canon 50 mm/1.8 lens and find that even with that the inside pics aren't as sharp unless I use a flash. Any advise?
Are they soft because of motion blur or are they soft because of poor focus?
I also hate being forced into using a flash to get the exposure. I tended to keep the 18-55 at 18mm indoors, where the aperture was wider, before I got some fast primes. One thing I love about the 6D... it's really made me re-evaluate what lenses to buy. The ISO performance has killed my want of an f/2.8 standard range zoom.