Getting the hang of my new Rebel!

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Although I have to admit that my favorite mode is the aperture priority one. In that mode I finally got some perfect pics today. Love my T4i!
 
Congrats on your new acquisition!!!!

I just ordered the T4i from Canon's refurbishment sale yesterday. Can't wait for it to arrive!!

AV mode is what I use most too.
 
I mostly use Av as well on my T1i. In fact, I mostly used it on my old Rebel X back in the day. It just fits my style.

Now, I don't trust the metering 100%, and will watch the speed and ISO (though, I now manually set ISO most of the time) and make sure that it didn't get confused, often using some minor bracketing if I don't have time to review. But, overall, unless I need specific speeds, Av works best for me for most of what I shoot.
 

Just bought a 10-22 mm lens for my T4i yesterday; cannot wait for it arrive so I can expand my shots!
 
Just bought a 10-22 mm lens for my T4i yesterday; cannot wait for it arrive so I can expand my shots!
UWAs are great. I picked up the Sigma 8-16mm last year and it's an absolute blast to use (though, it does require some exposure compensation at times, especially down at 8mm). After the Kit + Zoom + Fast Prime, one of these (there are a lot of very good ones) would be my first suggestion to anyone. Possibly even more so than the zoom depending on style.
 
UWAs are great. I picked up the Sigma 8-16mm last year and it's an absolute blast to use (though, it does require some exposure compensation at times, especially down at 8mm). After the Kit + Zoom + Fast Prime, one of these (there are a lot of very good ones) would be my first suggestion to anyone. Possibly even more so than the zoom depending on style.

I have a 10-24, they are fun. But doesn't get a ton of use. I'd recommend upgrading the kit before going to UWA. I'd also consider a Macro lens more important, but totally depends on your shooting style. Along the lines of Zoom --> fast prime ---> upgraded kit (a 16-55 2.8 for example) ---> Macro (if you want to do super close up shots) ----> UWA/and/or/fisheye.

I have way too many lenses at this point. 35mm/1.8; 50mm/1.7; 50mm/2.8 macro; 85mm 2.8; 10-24mm; 17-50mm 2.8; 35-105mm; 70-210/4; 70-300mm. Then throw in some really old kit lenses on top of that, including a super cheap kit-zoom. I really only use the first 8 lenses, lol. The 50mm macro may actually be my most-used lens. As not only great for true macro work, it's also super sharp, and fairly low light with the 2.8 aperture.
 
I have a 10-24, they are far. But doesn't get a ton of use. I'd recommend upgrading the kit before going to UWA. I'd also consider a Macro lens more important, but totally depends on your shooting style. Along the lines of Zoom --> fast prime ---> upgraded kit (a 16-55 2.8 for example) ---> Macro (if you want to do super close up shots) ----> UWA/and/or/fisheye.

The Canon 18-55 and the 18-135 kit lenses are actually a solid lenses. Lots of people dog on them but it is very capable of producing great shots in the right hands. I'd go with the UWA to complete my focal range before worrying about upgrading the kit myself. But it's all about what is important to the individual.
 
The Canon 18-55 and the 18-135 kit lenses are actually a solid lenses. Lots of people dog on them but it is very capable of producing great shots in the right hands. I'd go with the UWA to complete my focal range before worrying about upgrading the kit myself. But it's all about what is important to the individual.

Very true, and I do think at times kit lenses are underrated. I can't speak specifically to Canon, but in general terms, my motivation for upgrading the kit lens comes down to the 2.8 aperture. I don't like *needing* a flash indoors, so the 2.8 gives me much more freedom. If that isn't an issue, then I have found kit lenses provide totally adequate sharpness.

I've rarely used by UWA (but in fairness, haven't owned it that often). I'm glad I have it, I have gotten some great pictures with it. But for my own personal shooting style, I've used a macro much more. Really comes down to the individual's shooting style.
 
havoc315 said:
Very true, and I do think at times kit lenses are underrated. I can't speak specifically to Canon, but in general terms, my motivation for upgrading the kit lens comes down to the 2.8 aperture. I don't like *needing* a flash indoors, so the 2.8 gives me much more freedom. If that isn't an issue, then I have found kit lenses provide totally adequate sharpness.

I've rarely used by UWA (but in fairness, haven't owned it that often). I'm glad I have it, I have gotten some great pictures with it. But for my own personal shooting style, I've used a macro much more. Really comes down to the individual's shooting style.

I was wondering about the flash indoors issue. I don't like the look if pics with the flash. They look unnatural. I have a Canon 50 mm/1.8 lens and find that even with that the inside pics aren't as sharp unless I use a flash. Any advise?
 
I was wondering about the flash indoors issue. I don't like the look if pics with the flash. They look unnatural. I have a Canon 50 mm/1.8 lens and find that even with that the inside pics aren't as sharp unless I use a flash. Any advise?

Are they soft because of motion blur or are they soft because of poor focus?


Very true, and I do think at times kit lenses are underrated. I can't speak specifically to Canon, but in general terms, my motivation for upgrading the kit lens comes down to the 2.8 aperture. I don't like *needing* a flash indoors, so the 2.8 gives me much more freedom. If that isn't an issue, then I have found kit lenses provide totally adequate sharpness.

I've rarely used by UWA (but in fairness, haven't owned it that often). I'm glad I have it, I have gotten some great pictures with it. But for my own personal shooting style, I've used a macro much more. Really comes down to the individual's shooting style.


I also hate being forced into using a flash to get the exposure. I tended to keep the 18-55 at 18mm indoors, where the aperture was wider, before I got some fast primes. One thing I love about the 6D... it's really made me re-evaluate what lenses to buy. The ISO performance has killed my want of an f/2.8 standard range zoom.
 
photo_chick said:
Are they soft because of motion blur or are they soft because of poor focus?

I don't think it's either. I seem to be getting good focus and there's no motion blur. They just don't seem as sharp without the flash as with.
 
I don't think it's either. I seem to be getting good focus and there's no motion blur. They just don't seem as sharp without the flash as with.

You'd have to post a shot. Flash will give things harder edges, and that could be making things appear sharper. But you can also get that with good contrast (and good is not the same as more here).
 
I was wondering about the flash indoors issue. I don't like the look if pics with the flash. They look unnatural. I have a Canon 50 mm/1.8 lens and find that even with that the inside pics aren't as sharp unless I use a flash. Any advise?

Depends why they aren't sharp. Some lenses can be slightly soft when wide open (at 1.8), and the narrow depth of field at that aperture can make focus challenging.
If that's the case, just need to focus more carefully. The image may still be a little soft at 1.8, but only really noticeable if you pixel peep.

Alternatively, you're getting motion blur -- which is what I suspect. The fixes are to use a tripod, or make sure your shutter speed is fast enough. Your shutter speed should be 1/50-1/70 to prevent motion blur. Set your aperture at 1.8, and increase your ISO until you get adequate shutter speed.

Lastly, if you resort to a flash, use an external flash and bounce it off the ceiling. Or place it off camera at an angle (if you have wireless flash).
 
Are they soft because of motion blur or are they soft because of poor focus?





I also hate being forced into using a flash to get the exposure. I tended to keep the 18-55 at 18mm indoors, where the aperture was wider, before I got some fast primes. One thing I love about the 6D... it's really made me re-evaluate what lenses to buy. The ISO performance has killed my want of an f/2.8 standard range zoom.

Congratulations on the 6d. And yes, more than one way to reach the goal. When ISO 3200/6400+ is actually usable, don't really need the 2.8. As ISO performance continues to improve, those ultra expensive wide aperture lenses become superfluous.

I just recently added the 35-1.8 prime. A cheap lens with great optics. It's really a tough choice whether to put that lens on the camera, or the Tamron 17-50/2.8 when indoors.
 
Thank you! Since this is all new it's possible that my expectations are too high. I'll keep trying and post a pic too when I get a chance later from my computer.
 
Would like to see some of your shots, including the ones you're unhappy with.
 
Congratulations on the purchase of your T4i. I got mine 4 months ago and I love it. It was my first DSLR camera. I recently bought a Canon 55 - 250mm lens. It is a fairly cheap lens, but it works for me. I also have a 18-55 kit lens and I find this to be a pretty good lens.
 


















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