Only on one of the four trips were we able to get a room for less than rack rate.
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Do you call as soon as they are released? Now maybe it's because I don't stay at Deluxes, and the values and moderates have so many rooms, but so far, I've not ever not gotten an AP (hope I didn't jinx myself!). I just called two weeks ago and got one for this coming week..which is MLK weekend. I'm going in on Sunday, so I don't know if that matters, since Monday is the holiday. Sometimes I don't get them right away and have to call back, but I've always been fortunate to get them. I don't think it should matter how many AP's a family has, since some single people have them, and some with a family of 5 have them. I really would be surprised if the amount of child's AP's being used has much affect on available rooms, since I assume, in most instances, AP's are bought by people who come enough times that the AP would save the entire family on ticket prices. I can understand though, how frustrating it must be to have AP's and not be able to snag a room at a discount. For the values and mod's, the discount isn't that much difference..about $10 a night...than the general codes. Hardly worth the price of a child's AP if the family is only coming for a few days.