Genie+, Park Hopping, and Modifying

[DisRoss]

Wrapping head around park-hopping and Modifying with Genie+. Can folks verify if my thinking is accurate?

Say I’m starting at AK with an 8am opening and park-hopping to MK eventually and want to stack. At 7am I book G+ for a ride at AK with an 8-9 window. Then I tap into my AK ride at 8 and immediately become eligible to pick my next G+, which can be at MK if the return is after 2pm, or I can pick another AK ride.

If that 2ND selection of the day at 8:01 is made for MK (which is still not open for the day), do I need to wait 2 hours after MK opens (so 11am) or will I be able to make my 3RD G+ selection two hours after my second pick (at 10:01) because it’s already after AK officially opened?

If my 2ND selection after tapping in at 8:01 is for another AK ride (because there are no returns yet after 2pm at MK), can I eventually modify that into an MK ride once there’s an available 2pm?

If I stack a few rides at MK and then book an AK ride with an immediate return, can I book my next G+ as soon as I tap into that last-selected ride at AK?

Thanks!

 

[buddylee]

OMG I head is spinning, but I would like to know too! Good questions, I swear I think you need a Masters in G+

 

[jenabelle]

I have more crib notes for LL+ then for my Masters! Just back, so some of this is from experience and a lot of research before we left:

The 2 hour rule/park opening is based on the park where you have a reservation.

You can’t modify an existing lightening lane to a new park, you have to cancel and rebook. The 2 hour clock then restarts too.

As soon as you tap in at the most recent Lightening Lane you booked you can book again.

 

[bchbetha]

It was not letting us immediately book a new LL after tapping in. It was sometimes really random seeming with whether the 2 hour rule was enforced or not. But, we would always try to book as soon as tapping in and either the app will let you or it won't. You have to be prepared for the possibility that you won't be able to book ASAP. And, you also don't get to choose the return time so if an LL pops up for 1:30pm- that's it. Take it or leave it. You can try again later to modify but it's luck of the draw what's available when.

 

[g-dad66]

Wrapping head around park-hopping and Modifying with Genie+. Can folks verify if my thinking is accurate?

Say I’m starting at AK with an 8am opening and park-hopping to MK eventually and want to stack. At 7am I book G+ for a ride at AK with an 8-9 window. Then I tap into my AK ride at 8 and immediately become eligible to pick my next G+, which can be at MK if the return is after 2pm, or I can pick another AK ride.

If that 2ND selection of the day at 8:01 is made for MK (which is still not open for the day), do I need to wait 2 hours after MK opens (so 11am) or will I be able to make my 3RD G+ selection two hours after my second pick (at 10:01) because it’s already after AK officially opened?

If my 2ND selection after tapping in at 8:01 is for another AK ride (because there are no returns yet after 2pm at MK), can I eventually modify that into an MK ride once there’s an available 2pm?

If I stack a few rides at MK and then book an AK ride with an immediate return, can I book my next G+ as soon as I tap into that last-selected ride at AK?

Thanks!

1 - Yes, if you tap into your AK LL#1 at 8am, you are immediately eligible to book LL#2 at MK (after 2pm)
2 - If you book LL#2 for MK at 8:01, you are eligible to book LL#3 at 10:01, regardless of park.
3 - My understanding is that you cannot modify an LL in one park to an LL in a different park. You would have to cancel the LL for AK and then book the MK LL. So I can't see that booking the second LL at AK would do you any good if you don't actually use it. You would have to wait until an MK LL became available after 2:00 pm in either scenario.
4 - Yes, you always become eligible for your next LL when you tap into the most recently-booked one, regardless of park.

 

[g-dad66]

I have more crib notes for LL+ then for my Masters! Just back, so some of this is from experience and a lot of research before we left:

The 2 hour rule/park opening is based on the park where you have a reservation.

You can’t modify an existing lightening lane to a new park, you have to cancel and rebook. The 2 hour clock then restarts too.

As soon as you tap in at the most recent Lightening Lane you booked you can book again.

I believe the 2 hour rule/park opening is based on the park where you book your first LL, so not necessarily the park that you have the reservation for.

 

[nedidajohn]

You have to wait until 2 hrs after park opening( where your ressie is) to book your next G+

 

[scrappinginontario]

You have to wait until 2 hrs after park opening( where your ressie is) to book your next G+

In the OP’s post they hypothetically tapped into their first LL earlier than 2 hours after park opening. The rule is, as soon as you tap into your most recently booked LL you can book the next so in this situation it would be earlier than the 2 hours after their first park opens.

If my 2ND selection after tapping in at 8:01 is for another AK ride (because there are no returns yet after 2pm at MK), can I eventually modify that into an MK ride once there’s an available 2pm?

3 - My understanding is that you cannot modify an LL in one park to an LL in a different park. You would have to cancel the LL for AK and then book the MK LL. So I can't see that booking the second LL at AK would do you any good if you don't actually use it. You would have to wait until an MK LL became available after 2:00 pm in either scenario.

As @g-dad66 shared, you cannot modify to a different park but you can cancel and book new at another park.

Just a heads up @DisRoss, if you do this you will reset your 120 clock if you cancel first LL and book new at your hopping park.

 

[DisRoss]

Just a heads up @DisRoss, if you do this you will reset your 120 clock if you cancel first LL and book new at your hopping park.

Thx! I know about resetting 120 if I cancel. That’s what I’m trying to avoid by modifying to the new park. Glad to know before I try that I can’t modify like that!

 

[DisRoss]

I believe the 2 hour rule/park opening is based on the park where you book your first LL, so not necessarily the park that you have the reservation for.

I heard about the “park where you book your first LL” rule.

So is it fair to say that I could book, say, Dinosaur at 7 with an 8am return, tap in at 8:01 and immediately book Peter Pan’s flight for 2:05, then at 10:01 book Jungle Cruise for 2:10, effectively giving me three G+ selections, including 2 at MK, before anyone who picked an MK ride at 7 had their chance to pick their second G+?

 

[g-dad66]

I heard about the “park where you book your first LL” rule.

So is it fair to say that I could book, say, Dinosaur at 7 with an 8am return, tap in at 8:01 and immediately book Peter Pan’s flight for 2:05, then at 10:01 book Jungle Cruise for 2:10, effectively giving me three G+ selections, including 2 at MK, before anyone who picked an MK ride at 7 had their chance to pick their second G+?

Yes, that should work.

 

[NJlauren]

It was not letting us immediately book a new LL after tapping in. It was sometimes really random seeming with whether the 2 hour rule was enforced or not. But, we would always try to book as soon as tapping in and either the app will let you or it won't. You have to be prepared for the possibility that you won't be able to book ASAP. And, you also don't get to choose the return time so if an LL pops up for 1:30pm- that's it. Take it or leave it. You can try again later to modify but it's luck of the draw what's available when.

I believe this only happens if the LL you are taping into wasn’t the most recently booked LL.

 

[scrappinginontario]

The other thing that I don’t know that others might is, what is the earliest LL available? If a park opens at 8AM, is the first window 8-9 or, possibly a bit later?

Has anyone successfully booked a LL that starts the minute the park opens?

 

[DisRoss]

The other thing that I don’t know that others might is, what is the earliest LL available? If a park opens at 8AM, is the first window 8-9 or, possibly a bit later?

Has anyone successfully booked a LL that starts the minute the park opens?

Excellent question! Hard to tell now that G+ doesn’t show return times in the app until 7:30. The whole plan I’m attempting to put together relies on an immediate G+ time, but ironically if there’s no G+ that early anyway, standby should still be short and moving quickly at park open.

For reference, this is about getting to AK for early entry and knocking off Dinosaur and Expedition Everest, then getting to K Safari as early as possible when it opens at park open.

 

[musicguy856]

The other thing that I don’t know that others might is, what is the earliest LL available? If a park opens at 8AM, is the first window 8-9 or, possibly a bit later?

Has anyone successfully booked a LL that starts the minute the park opens?

I once scored an 8:30am Rise ILL and HS opened at 8:30 that morning.

 

[KateMW]

We never had luck booking anything before 9am for any park for a week last week. Now we were there with most of the free world it seems so many in a "slower" time that would work?

Also, we only were able to stack the 3 like you're talking about once, other times it would not let us and I'm not really sure why. Maybe something to do with what order they were used in.

 

[bluedolphin32]

It was not letting us immediately book a new LL after tapping in.

Either it was a ride with 2 tap points, in which case you have to pass the 2nd tap to book again, or...

I believe this only happens if the LL you are taping into wasn’t the most recently booked LL.

 

[mickeyluv'r]

Wrapping head around park-hopping and Modifying with Genie+. Can folks verify if my thinking is accurate?

Say I’m starting at AK with an 8am opening and park-hopping to MK eventually and want to stack. At 7am I book G+ for a ride at AK with an 8-9 window. Then I tap into my AK ride at 8 and immediately become eligible to pick my next G+, which can be at MK if the return is after 2pm, or I can pick another AK ride.

If that 2ND selection of the day at 8:01 is made for MK (which is still not open for the day), do I need to wait 2 hours after MK opens (so 11am) or will I be able to make my 3RD G+ selection two hours after my second pick (at 10:01) because it’s already after AK officially opened?

If my 2ND selection after tapping in at 8:01 is for another AK ride (because there are no returns yet after 2pm at MK), can I eventually modify that into an MK ride once there’s an available 2pm?

If I stack a few rides at MK and then book an AK ride with an immediate return, can I book my next G+ as soon as I tap into that last-selected ride at AK?

Thanks!

You will be hard pressed to get a G+ pass that starts before 9am. You will not get an 8am G+ pass.

At 7am, you will be booking blind, by that I mean you can't see the G+ return times until you get to the final screen when booking a pass, at a time when seconds matter.

If you do get one, it would most likely only be for a ride like DINOSAUR or TtbaB. Then when you go to use it, you will find the standby is less than 5 minutes. So basically, you'd be throwing away your first G+ pass. Because if you book your 2nd pass at 8am, you'll already be AFTER everyone who booked from 7am-8am.

The one exception was that we were able to get a fairly early pass for Na'vi. It wasn't for 8am, but it was still an early return time: just before 9am. Also keep in mind some rides do not open at park open. Kali doesn't open - I think- until 9am. We were able to get a 9:05am pass for the Safari, and when we arrived, the safari was also not yet open. It was just after 9am when they opened the queue.

All of this is assuming you are even able to clock in exactly at 7am. Often enough, MDE glitches at 7am.

No, you can't change AK G+ to a MK G+, unless you cancel it. If you do that, then you restart the 2 hour window clock until you can book your next pass. In theory, you CAN do that, but it will not work in your favor.

 

[CamillaF]

The other thing that I don’t know that others might is, what is the earliest LL available? If a park opens at 8AM, is the first window 8-9 or, possibly a bit later?

Has anyone successfully booked a LL that starts the minute the park opens?

Yes I was able to book park opening in every park. GOTG, Slinky, Frozen, jungle cruise, and safari. My husband and I both tried booking at the same time and it was a game to see who could get it.

 

[mickeyluv'r]

I heard about the “park where you book your first LL” rule.

So is it fair to say that I could book, say, Dinosaur at 7 with an 8am return, tap in at 8:01 and immediately book Peter Pan’s flight for 2:05, then at 10:01 book Jungle Cruise for 2:10, effectively giving me three G+ selections, including 2 at MK, before anyone who picked an MK ride at 7 had their chance to pick their second G+?

You would effectively be throwing away that first G+. If you go to Dino at 8am, the standby will be minimal. You'd do better if you just used the 7am booking to book in MK.

Keep in mind though, you can only book each attraction once.

Second, if you are not booking AK attractions, then what will you be doing all morning? The very WORST waits of the day occur in that time frame.

In your scenario, you'd ride DIno at 8am, when Dino has no wait. Then from 8am until you hop to MK, all your AK attractions would be standby lane only. You'd be throwing away your ability to use G+ for the 5-6hours you are in AK.

IMO, we fared better by booking AK attractions all morning, THEN swapping to MK G+ bookings around 1-2pm.

Booking later PM G+ is a gamble. You might not feel up to using them, and/or the weather can close attractions, and/or the standby might be short come 8pm. Even on a very busy week, POSTED attraction waits were high, but ACTUAL attraction waits after 9pm were not that long for many MK attractions.