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Nope, the road to Mt Evans hasn't changed!Now you just have to share the narrow, no guard rail road with 15 million bicycle riders and a few mountain goats! So I guess its more like an obstacle course these days.
Loving your report through the highs and lows. Thanks for sharing!
Jill in CO (looking at Mt Evans from my balcony!)
Hi Jill, and welcome. My sister had moved out there then, and my buddy and I drove out to visit, when we were barely 20. She lived in Broomfield, then moved further west to Parker, but I never got to see the Parker house. And that drive up Mt. Evans scaredthe hell out of me.
I was so nervous, shaking just reading this... I just HATE this for you guys!! And Kiefer's response, or lack thereof, just makes my blood boil!!!!!! A free night?? Hello??? It should have been an entire WEEK!!! I'm with you though, I'd just want justice, no amount of room compensation can make up for this experience. This is enough to never want to go in July, sheesh!!
~~~Dawn
Dawn, all I can say is don't go in July, if you do it better be at a villa or deluxe resort.
How unbelievably awful! I can't stand it when people think the rules don't apply to them, but then when the management decides the rules shouldn't apply either...! I hope you got more satisfaction than just one free night!
Well, no, one free night was it. Did I mention don't go in July?
That's disgusting. A free night doesn't do diddly, because how can you enjoy your days in the parks, etc, that cost a chunk of change, when you can't sleep?
Around here, we call people like this group "compound words." You can figure out the two epithets you'd like to string together.
Yes, over that weekend I got very creative using compound words.
oh yeah! around midnight, coming back from the DSA, when securtiy had told them the pool was closed, I walked past a mom complaining to the security guard about it. and giving us dirty looks. and I heard the guard, in very "woosy" fashion, say to her "well, I can see both sides."
can see both sides??!! what other side IS there? pool is closed at midnight. quiet time after 10 pm. that means no screaming, yelling, chanting, soccer playing, etc.
if there had been no big soccer tour group there, and we had been there with, say, 3 other couple, drinking out of glass bottles, smoking, laughing loudly, splashing in the pool, screaming, etc, you better believe We would have been promptly shooed to our rooms.
but NOW, a Disney "official" has commiserated WITH the group, basically told them that "well. you're ok, but, since someone complained, sorry." making US look like the bad guys!?
so.. basically, whatever it may say in writing, whatever the "official" rule... the "actual WORKING " policy is:
let the groups do whatever they want. they come here every year and spend money. make other customers feel like jerks for complaining, make them feel like they are not also guests, not important. if someone upsets this status quo, try to "hush" them. .. but... above all! DO NOT upset these groups! they are royalty. sheesh.![]()
yes, everything Smidgy has said was right. I was getting tired of thinking and pounding away at the keyboard by the time I got to that part, and my mind started skipping things. But yes, 'Ol Keifer did refer to this as "Latin Month". Would have been nice if they told us that when we booked.
Totally agree. If they are going to allow them to act like this THEY (as in Disney) have an obligation to tell US (their regular, well-behaved, rule following guests) what is going on. But they know if they did that we wouldn't come in July and we wouldn't stay at the All-Stars, especially not Sports.But you know, if they are so worried about losing our business maybe they should make sure that these groups behave so EVERYONE has an enjoyable, pleasant,and memorable (in a good way) time. I suspect that the Brazilians would still come for their soccer tournament even if they couldn't stay up terrorizing people all night.
I really hate this happened to you guys! I think you handled it very well though. It had to be hard to keep your cool in all that craziness!![]()
When you are outnumbered by about 1000 to one, it's pretty easy to keep your cool, but your anger then refocuses on the people that are allowing it to happen in the first place. And these are people that we have given every spare dime we have to them and even dimes we don't have yet.
It's not bad in the parks, they get swallowed up there and are not really that noticable, I would just stay away from July.
It's not like Disney can't fill up those rooms. What is the deal? Do these bean brains pay more or what? It seems the cast members are afraid of them. It's the same with the pop warner bone heads too.
When we went last March we stayed in a hotel in downtown Disney all we had were some band kids that were really sweet.
With the summer rates now so high, I don't think they can fill the resorts up, they're not offering free dining into next year out of the goodness of their hearts. How nice it must be for them with a press of a key, there, 20 rooms filled!
I feel horrible about the treatment you received, so sorry!
Marita, we've met, you know us and how much we love Disney, this was not fun to write about. I have done everything I can to just weave this into the story, though yes, I did make it a centerpiece, but I hoped it was the "story" that everyone would enjoy reading with this being just another part of it like having to turn around at the beginning.
In no way do I wish to turn this into a Disney bashing, or Brazilian bashing thread. I have even tried to temper my anger at the whole thing with a bunch of dumb jokes, that's why I separated the two chapters, but helpless anger is a much stronger emotion, and yes, sigh, even stronger then a dyslexic ghost line.
I know I'm being a total instigator here, but isn't there at least one news station/outlet in Orlando that likes to pick on Disney and would love this as a story. We know you're not alone by the amount of closed threads on the boards...I would think this would be a great story to kick Disney's behind.
It could be Tracy, but I don't want to go that route. We still love Disney and look forward to going back maybe in December, that last thing in the world I would want is to be blackballed, that would break our hearts. I just look at this as a learning episode, we are not going back in July ever again.
OMG! My blood pressure wentsteadilyup as I read.Hope te rest the trip is much better
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Janet, it does get better, eventually, soon. Simmer down there girl.
btw thanks for a trip report that actually got me the guts to post. this started out like a fun albeit misshap filled trip (sounding like one of our vacations to the world) now it is like a nightmare so sorry. just can't wait to see how this plays out.
Well, look who's out of the anemone. Welcome QB, we will return to our normal mishap filled vacation after a short break.
That's because the Japanese are about honor and not being disrespectful, apparently something they should teach those soccer groups.
Well put Shawn.
Yep, as you said, much worse than Pop Warner.... MUCH worse indeed! We were only mildly bothered by the PW folks last Dec. But this?? This is beyond ridiculous.
I am so sad and angry that this happened to the 2 of you. But I also can't help to imagine if this happened to a family that had to save for years to be able to take their ONE "dream" trip to Disney?
Most of us here, who flock to these boards like addicts to free crack, have been able to go more than once, some a lot more than once. But for a lot of folks that isn't the reality. And THIS could have been their experience too. I'd be SICK if my first trip went down like this ~ it'd be my last trip too because I wouldn't go back.
Surely Disney must know this could be the case? Or do they really not care? Have they lost sight of Walt's dream? Walt wanted you to leave your cares behind when you entered his World! You spent an entire 2 days at his resort worrying and having a pit in your stomach because of the threat of confrontation around every corner.
While I don't know yet how the rest of your trip played out, I do hope that in the end you felt that Disney helped to make it right. If you didn't I hope that you consider writing a letter to guest relations explaining what happened. Not so you get anything free (although it would be nice and I think they owe you) but so that they understand that they were lucky it was you and Smidgy. You know the real Disney. You know the magic. Those families that may have been on that once-in-a-lifetime trip do not. Wonder what they say to their friends and families about that trip. Wonder how many people have a tainted view of Disney as a result of experiences such as this. How is that going to effect the bottom line? How are those Brazillian soccer tournaments paying off in the end?
Sorry...... I rarely, if ever, rant on here. Especially on a trippie! But AUUUUGGGHHH it makes me angry.
I really hope it gets better. Please tell me it's gonna get better.![]()
LBAW, I left this quote in it's entirety, very well said.
Our one time there in Pop Warner season we met up with some Dis friends who brought along a Disney World newby with them. We were all staying at Music, and I felt real bad that this is this woman's first time at Disney and she has to deal with the Pop W. crowd. Both Smidgy and I kept apologizing for Disnye, saying it's not usually like this.