Free Dining or AP rate HELP!

nkkilala

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OK so here is the breakdown

Free Dining for 8 night at PORS 1704.92

AP Rate for 8 nights at CBR 980


My question is will we REALLY spend 724 dollars in food??

Does anyone have a good caluclator for estimating food consumption? It is just DH and I. We will have a rental car so I'll pick up beverages and snacks at walmart (with hubby's discount).

I am torn between which one to do. I mean I have done the dining plan and love not having to budget out food money but I'm not sure if we paid out of pocket if we would rack up 724 dollars in food!!


Please let me know your suggestions
 
OK so here is the breakdown

Free Dining for 8 night at PORS 1704.92

AP Rate for 8 nights at CBR 980


My question is will we REALLY spend 724 dollars in food??

Does anyone have a good caluclator for estimating food consumption? It is just DH and I. We will have a rental car so I'll pick up beverages and snacks at walmart (with hubby's discount).

I am torn between which one to do. I mean I have done the dining plan and love not having to budget out food money but I'm not sure if we paid out of pocket if we would rack up 724 dollars in food!!


Please let me know your suggestions


Ok...take this with a big grain of salt, because I'm only planning our first trip to WDW (done DL several times, but never WDW). But....I've also been number crunching and reading these boards for months now, trying to decide whether to do the dining plan for us (DH, me, 2 kids age 11, so money wise it's 4 adults, eating wise, the girls don't eat adult portions).

8 nights = 9 days presumably. $724 divided by 9 days is $80.44 per day for food. Or...$40.22 per person per day.

Now...you need to figure out what your normal eating habits would be.....if you and DH go to a TS, would you BOTH order an appetizer and BOTH order a dessert if you were paying OOP? Or would you be more like our family and order 1 appetizer for everyone to nibble on (maybe 2, but NEVER 4), and either 1 or 2 desserts to share as well. The other question you have to answer is if you were eating OOP, would you do a CS meal every day AND a TS meal every day? Are there character/signature meals you would do? Once you know what you would do IF you didn't have the dining plan.....it's just a matter of doing the math.

Being our first time, we want to experience the TS's....normally we wouldn't do that many "fancy" meals a week even on vacation.

We poured over the various menus at allearsnet and pretended we were sitting there ready to place our order. Then we added up the cost. Almost every night at a TS was certainly over $40 per person per day, even at the more inexpensive places. For CS lunches we did the same thing and averaged about $10-15 per person (hamburger/fries/drink are $10+ anything fancier is even more). Now...with all that food for CS and TS, I'm not sure we'd do snacks.....but if you do, figure $4 max allowed, but even just a bottle of water is $2. So....the numbers say we'd spend at an absolute minimum $40 + $10.....so at least $50 (plus an occasional snack not even included). And that was NOT at an expensive TS where it could easily double that $40.

Some of those TS will not be dinner for us....with kids we gotta do some of the character breakfasts....those seem to vary widely in price...I've seen some at $18 and others at $38 (and some cost 2 TS). The days we do an $18 character breakfast we might only break even on the cost of the dining plan....but the night we do Coral Reef, for example.....we'll be saving at least 1/2 our cost, probably much more.

But.....if you are going to only eat at CS's and the occasional TS, then the numbers wouldn't be as good for you....if you did 2 CS that's only $20-$30....so you wouldn't save anything, in fact it would cost you more. If you threw in a TS occasionally it would really depend on what you'd spend there....because you should figure you're "losing" $10-$20 a day when you only use CS....but if you then did just one TS that cost you $80 per person, well, then you'd have made up the COST...but the problem is I don't think you can use TS credits at CS....so you'd be paying for TS's you wouldn't use?

Ok...so that's generally how I crunch the numbers......but your best bet is to decide tenatively where/how you'd eat and crunch the numbers based on your plans.

Now...throw into the mix that if you're going in 2008, there are RUMORS that you will no longer have the gratuity included in dining plan....so add 15-18% on TOP of the cost of the DDP....but then no one knows either whether the DDP is going to stay the same cost, go up (unlikely it'll go down even if most of us feel it should if we now have to pay gratuity)...or if they'll change it totally and completely and that's why the 2008 packages aren't out yet and some RUMORS say won't be out for a couple months (meaning perhaps they're still working the details of the "new" DDP). That's the boat we're in...if they raise the price or change the benefits substantially, we may just have to forego that experience and do our normal eating habits of mostly CS with a few character breakfasts added in, and maybe one nice TS. Or...if they raise it AND the RUMOR that room rates will change based on what days of the week you're staying....they may just price us into thinking it'd be better to just stay offsite, eat breakfast/dinner off site and we'll pocket the savings for another week in Florida visiting the other attractions (something DH wants to do, to him a hotel is a bed, nothing more...to the kids it's "DISNEY". lol).
 
Do you already have AP's? Does the extra $724 include 1 day base tickets you need to purchase to qualify for free dining? You can use those tickets in the future toward an AP renewal.
 
I'm assuming that you bought just a one day base ticket with your free dining package. I was in the same place you are yesterday and those one day tickets are like a rebate to use on a future ticket purchase. You'll need to back out approximately $140 for those base tickets from the $724 to get your amount for food. My number crunching left us with our free dining package although we will still use our DDE card for extras.
 

This is my dilema right now. We have 11 days. All 11 are booked with free dining (ASMo) and I also have a ressie for 2 of those nights, with AP room only rate. So I am going to cancel the 2 nights at the end of our free dining (Booked ASMO 9/21-10/1 and also CR 9/29-10/1) so the kids could have 2 nights of fun deluxe stay. We will have 9 days of fun at the parks... so our 2 days at CR will be resort days totally. But I figured if I switched to POR for those 9 nights and then 2 nights at CR it would cost me $1367. My 2 room stay with free dining is $2241 (one day base tickets) So a difference of $900... BUT of that $900 there are 6 one day base tickets at a cost of $324.60. So my dining cost is $576. For a family of 6, we are DEFINITELY going to eat $576 worth of food over 9 days (well technically 11). So I figure $576 over say 9 days is $64 a day and then there are 6 of us... so thats $10 a person per day for food! I cant do better.

So I am sticking with 9 days of free dining and will then move to CR and get 2 fun resort days. But I had to sit and figure this all out!
 
Is the Free Dining REALLY FREE ??

My answer is NO. I was told at an early age in my life that if "it looks to good to be true....BEWARE." OR...."you dont get anything for free..somewhere done the line you will pay for it".

Here goes......Before I start this, let me say, we have NO kids. We have been to WDW 17 times and counting and we know our eating habits....

If you have kids..this probably does NOT apply to you. Its "apples vs. oranges" comparing Free Dining with only 2 adults...vs. free dining with children.

Last November, we booked POLY on the bounce back program with FREE dining. We are AP holders..

Our dates are Aug 8th to Aug 19th. We had to book the bounce back program for 10 nights and buy two 1 day MYW tickets to get the free dining.

For the 10 nights at POLY, 2 MYW tickets and "FREE" dining, it would have cost us $4,244.73.

Then...we had to book 1 night room only extra at the AAA Rate for $314.00

TOTAL for the 11 nights with "FREE" dining was $4,558.73

Well, the light bulb clicked on and the mouse starting spinning the wheel in my head.

There is WAY too much food to consume. We have seen so many people just waste food. Its very sad. We would never eat so much food.

We dont eat breakfast in the AM, when we have lunch at WDW, most of the time we share. Dinners we are on our own.

With the recent AP room rate release....for the 11 nights at the POLY Aug 8th to Aug 19th....the total AP room rate is.........$3,081.00. PLUS, being AP holders, we have the DDE card which gives us 20% off food.

That is +/- $1,475.00 difference. We WOULD NEVER eat $1475 worth of food for this time frame. (Probably more with the DDE card 20% off).

So needless to say, for us, FREE dining is not really FREE dining. "FREE" dining probably would have cost us an extra $650 to $700.

Remember, you never get anything for free.

KG
 
My DH and I tried the DDP last year on a split-stay. We had it for the first 3 days, which actually stretched to 4 (we arrive very early to check in and the DDP is good through the check out day). Even so, it was way too much food (and we love to eat)! For just the two of us, we won't do it again.:sad2: We also found that our days were centered around where we had ADRs, instead of just enjoying ourselves in the parks or at the resorts. :mad:

If you have APs, the DDE will save you 20% on most TS meals, and some CS ones. Combined with the AP resorts discount, that might work better for you. :thumbsup2

Only you know how much emphasis you and your DH want to place on food and where to eat when you're in WDW; plus, only you know how much you like to eat. :goodvibes
 
It's myself , my wife and two children (7 & 12 yrs old). I budget approx $110 per day for meals. If it was just two of us I would say $70 per day is a good estimate.
 














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