Fp +

[Tink1987]

The way the tiering works is that you get to pick one 'top tier' ride or attraction and then two from the remaining list. Tiering is only in effect at Epcot and DHS. The tiers are as follows Epcot: Choose one: Illuminations *Reserved Area Maelstrom Character Spot Soarin Test Track Choose two: Captain EO Figment Living with the Land Mission Space Spaceship Earth Nemo Turtle Talk Hollywood Studios: Choose one: Rock 'n' Roller Coaster Toy Story Midway Mania Fantasmic *Priority Access Beauty and the Beast - Live on Stage *Priority Access Choose two: Star Tours Tower of Terror The Great Movie Ride American Idol Experience Disney Junior - Live on Stage *Reserved Area Indiana Jones Epic Stunt Spectacular *Priority Access Lights, Motors, Action! Extreme Stunt Show Muppet Vision 3D Voyage of the Little Mermaid In my opinion, the FP+ at Fantasmic! is NOT worth it. You get in the same time as everybody else, just follow a different (shorter) path but there is no reserved seating so it's a free-for-all once you're in the theater. When we went we were lucky and there was a glitch in the system, meaning we could book all top tier FP+. However, in October our strategy for Epcot will be to pick Soarin' and do single rider for Test Track (apart from the day when we are in a group of 5 when we will choose Test Track). At DHS, we will choose Toy Story Mania on one visit and Rock n Roller Coaster on another. One thing I will say is that, if you are desperate to get a good spot for the new parade at MK, watch out for the parade FPs (not usually released until around 30 days before) as that is worth having.

Thanks for this - I had heard the word headliner instead of tiers so was using that too. I also assumed it was across all 4 parks not just two so that's a little bonus for me As said I'm not going to pass judgement on it until I have actually used it in September/October.

I think it may work for us two with some planning and we have EMH because we are on site. As it's just us two adults we are hardcore lol - we are in the parks from open to well after close as we are photographers so it's rare we don't get to do anything we want too. Even when we went at Christmas and New Year once we didn't miss out on one single thing due to planning and researching and didn't wait more then 30 minutes for anything - even in the major holiday days!

 

[2Tiggies]

TAs it's just us two adults we are hardcore lol - we are in the parks from open to well after close as we are photographers so it's rare we don't get to do anything we want too. Even when we went at Christmas and New Year once we didn't miss out on one single thing due to planning and researching and didn't wait more then 30 minutes for anything - even in the major holiday days!

This may well be our saving grace too and I will report back on how it goes for us with a similar strategy in July. You'll no doubt be familiar then with being politely walked to the exit and having your choice of empty bus ("Pick any bus. You guys are the last ones here")

 

[penlanspice]

As we hadn't planned on going until November I haven't been following all the fast pass stuff really so it's new to me, started looking into it properly on the weekend after booking on thursday (go in 2 weeks time) really not that into this FP+ it I must admit, I bought our annual passes yesterday and logged into the app to find you can only book 7 days of fast passes in a 30 day period!! ok after you have used the first day then you can book another.
We usually wake up in the morning and decide where to go, many days we're even in the car or at the bus stop when we decide which park to go to, we're usually at the park early and leave by about 12pm, i'm hoping we can still do main rides at opening so we won't need FP. Only thing that will benefit us is we would visit parks in the early evening more if we had FP for main rides.

 

[2Tiggies]

If you have an onsite stay booked and link your AP's to your reservation on MDE you can book length of stay

 

[penlanspice]

If you have an onsite stay booked and link your AP's to your reservation on MDE you can book length of stay

We're not staying on site (definitely not for the £1100 it's cost for both of us for 17 nights. lol) Hope their going to change that policy, we usually go for 3 and 1/2 weeks.

 

[2Tiggies]

We're not staying on site (definitely not for the £1100 it's cost for both of us for 17 nights. lol) Hope their going to change that policy, we usually go for 3 and 1/2 weeks.

I saw the GF in your ticker and assumed it was an onsite stay. Mind you, I would hate to think what 3 weeks at the GF would cost

I think there are still some flaws in the system. I don't really understand why there is a 7 day limit on AP reservations. Nobody is going to book FP's for days they aren't going to be there. Whatever for? I don't see the difference between an AP and an offsite stay with a 14 day ticket, yet offsite with a 14 day ticket allows booking for the full validity of the ticket. I can see where the AP reduced booking window may come into play for Florida residents with an AP but generally people don't drive or fly across a state or 6 on a whim and book more than 7 nights of FP .... I think there will be many changes. The question for everyone is whether the changes that may benefit them will be in effect at the time of travel. Too many variables. Too many unknowns. Too much need for rigid advanced planning on every changing information that is incomplete. It equals headache

 

[Elise79]

I have read (but of course can't find it now) that all offsite guests were limited to both Booking 30 days in advance and upto a maximum of 7 days.

I haven't tried it as we stay onsite and have APs but I have fairly certain I saw some moaning on it

Plus I can see the logic in the 7 day thing - most US visitors only stay a week and that's their biggest market

 

[wilma-bride]

As an AP holder, I don't see why we're limited to 7 days at a time. As 2tiggies says, why would you book FP+ for days you're not going to be at the park, what would be the point?

As it happens, we normally stay on site also but it is still annoying that we can't book more than 7 days if staying off site as AP holders.

Is it definitely the case, Tracy, that offsite with 14-day ticket can book more than 7 days at a time? I haven't seen anyone report that as being the case

 

[Elise79]

I think I read someone complaining on the Dibb about only being able to book 7 days FP+ on a 14 day ticket.

It may have been a glitch/problem but I didn't follow it up as it didn't apply to me.

 

[tinks_1989]

I think some people worry FP+ need to be booked at the 60 day mark. FP+ are not be our guest ADRs. Disney have even reported more FP+ will be released on the day you visit the park.

We never had any problems changing our FP+ to exactly what we wanted when we wanted it.

 

[wilma-bride]

I think I read someone complaining on the Dibb about only being able to book 7 days FP+ on a 14 day ticket.

It may have been a glitch/problem but I didn't follow it up as it didn't apply to me.

Sorry Tracy, just realised it was Lee that said offsite with 14-day tickets could book for 14 days. It makes perfect sense that they shouldn't be able to. If AP holders can't why should other offsite guests.

I think some people worry FP+ need to be booked at the 60 day mark. FP+ are not be our guest ADRs. Disney have even reported more FP+ will be released on the day you visit the park.

We never had any problems changing our FP+ to exactly what we wanted when we wanted it.

Precisely. i think everybody gets het up about having to make FP+ at the 60/30 day point when, in actual fact, you could probably get away with meaking them the day of (with the exception of Anna & Elsa M&G and parade/fireworks viewing)

 

[2Tiggies]

Sorry Tracy, just realised it was Lee that said offsite with 14-day tickets could book for 14 days. It makes perfect sense that they shouldn't be able to. If AP holders can't why should other offsite guests.



Precisely. i think everybody gets het up about having to make FP+ at the 60/30 day point when, in actual fact, you could probably get away with meaking them the day of (with the exception of Anna & Elsa M&G and parade/fireworks viewing)

This may well be a valid point. This is based on a post by a CM in response to one of my questions on the TPAS board so take it as you will, but according to him they are holding back FP's for the day-of. People had been commenting that they couldn't get the same choice of times at 30 days out that they could get when they checked again day-of. However it remains to be seen if the proportion of FP's being held back is going to be reduced as the information was based on they way things were prior to offsite being able to book in advance. Interesting times!

Tracy, is the 14 day booking period not correct? My understanding that it was length of stay if onsite and length of ticket if offsite with the 7 day limit applying to offsite AP holders. Now if I can find the massive thread among the other 2358 FP threads ....

 

[wilma-bride]

Tracy, is the 14 day booking period not correct? My understanding that it was length of stay if onsite and length of ticket if offsite with the 7 day limit applying to offsite AP holders. Now if I can find the massive thread among the other 2358 FP threads ....

It's been 7 minutes since you posted this so there are probably 2392 threads to search now

 

[wilma-bride]

My understanding that it was length of stay if onsite and length of ticket if offsite with the 7 day limit applying to offsite AP holders. Now if I can find the massive thread among the other 2358 FP threads ....

Found it! Point no. 14 on this thread. Although I will say again that it doesn't seem right that AP holders can only book 7 days at a time

 

[2Tiggies]

Found it! Point no. 14 on this thread. Although I will say again that it doesn't seem right that AP holders can only book 7 days at a time

Oh I absolutely agree with you! It's just wrong in every respect. I only remembered it because there has been much discussion about it. Understandably the people who have paid a small fortune for AP's are not particularly happy at being categorised in the same boat as the person who buys a one day base ticket. There is some fixing to do in the fairness department on this system.

 

[igk]

Thinking more about the potential improvements hinted at in the original linked article, the idea that adding extra FPs after you have used the prebooked ones is interesting. I'll explain what I mean.
So I think my touring strategy will be like some others have done - book 3 FP+s for late morning back-to back, then arrive early, do what I can on standby, use the 3 FP+s, then leave. If there was the enticement of more FPs becoming available then that would lessen the urge to leave. It does seem odd to limit it to 3 anyway - under the old system if it was really busy then FPs would sell out fast and you wouldn't get many, but on quieter days you could score several...
With the park-hopping if you'd booked your FP+s for the second park (say, in the evening), then after doing as few things on standby early on at the first park then once the crowds built up I'd want to leave even earlier...
If the idea of it all is to keep people in the parks longer then I guess that might be a consideration.

 

[2Tiggies]

Thinking more about the potential improvements hinted at in the original linked article, the idea that adding extra FPs after you have used the prebooked ones is interesting. I'll explain what I mean.
So I think my touring strategy will be like some others have done - book 3 FP+s for late morning back-to back, then arrive early, do what I can on standby, use the 3 FP+s, then leave. If there was the enticement of more FPs becoming available then that would lessen the urge to leave. It does seem odd to limit it to 3 anyway - under the old system if it was really busy then FPs would sell out fast and you wouldn't get many, but on quieter days you could score several...

Yes but if you stay after your last FP has been used at lunch time for example, and then spend 15 minutes in line at a kiosk just to see what is available, and you get there and find you can FP Buzz at 7 pm or Dumbo at 7.25 pm, what are you going to do? Until this is up and running and I hear consistent reports that people can book something worth booking by early afternoon, I have no intention of sticking around if I can go do something else, elsewhere. In theory it makes sense. In reality I want to see it to believe it is going to be awesome. This is a gag placed over our mouths along with a blindfold, leading everyone to believe they are responding with an additional level of awesomeness, while effectively, nothing may change. There will not be any headliner attractions available by lunch time. If they hold back FP's on headliners for later on the day of, I would actually be really irritated that I have had to get my act together 60 days out and commit to what I'm doing where and at what time, only to be told that some of my potential options have been held out of the pool for selection to offer to people who haven't used MDE as Disney wanted them to either because they didn't know or it wasn't convenient or practical....

 

[igk]

In reality I want to see it to believe it is going to be awesome. This is a gag placed over our mouths along with a blindfold, leading everyone to believe they are responding with an additional level of awesomeness, while effectively, nothing may change.

Oh I didn't think it was going to make it more awesome, just maybe slightly less miserable...

 

[2Tiggies]

Oh I didn't think it was going to make it more awesome, just maybe slightly less miserable...