FP+ Details Are Out!

[disneyholic family]

There is another thread where someone confirmed with IT that they are getting the bands and reservations without receiving a notification email.

I'd imagine if the bands actually ship, then it's probably real.

you are perhaps referring to me..
and yes, i spoke with disney IT support and she at first thought i was mistaken about the magicbands..
and then when she went into my account, she said that yes indeed i had been selected for the august test..
and no i didn't get any email notification of it....not even a notification that they were shipping the magic bands to me...

but i'm passing on the privilege - my biggest fear is linking my tickets...
i have UK tickets....once they're linked, that's it....they are only on the magic bands, no more paper ticket...
i don't trust them enough to do it..
i'm only going to be at WDW for 5 days this time..
i don't want half of it to be spent sorting out a computer glitch...

I, for one, do not think that Disney owes me the right to have a spontaneous vacation without long lines, but I know that it is one of my requirements. If Disney cannot meet my vacation requirements, they are off the list of places to consider. It really is that simple for some people. I love WDW, but my wife does not...

disney does owe you a holiday on the level one would expect for the amount of money you pay them - a very large sum of money..
if i no longer perceive that i'm getting value for money, i will naturally vote with my feet...
i can't possibly plan where i'm going to be in each park so far in advance..
it's impossible...

WDW is like a favorite uncle. You love him dearly, so you will put up with a pile of stuff (including relatives that you would be happy never to see again) in order to spend time with him. You won't enjoy the stuff that you have to put up with, but are willing to make the sacrifice to see him. But there are limits.

yes, there are limits...
and i fear they're getting very close to mine...

i already told the kids that our next big disney trip as the entire family will be to the far east....i think i'm done with WDW....way too much work....

 

[Arsenal1982]

Reading this thread is like asking someone to insert an ulcer in my stomach.

 

[mom2rtk]

so then what is really being said is that Disney owes us (those of us who know how to use and maximize the system) the right to have what we want, when we want with no wait. hmmm

You do seem to like to jump to the extremes, don't you?

Could you point me to the post where I said I deserve to do what I want when I want with no wait please?

 

[MickeyMinnieMom]

so then what is really being said is that Disney owes us (those of us who know how to use and maximize the system) the right to have what we want, when we want with no wait. hmmm

You do seem to like to jump to the extremes, don't you?

Could you point me to the post where I said I deserve to do what I want when I want with no wait please?

Tsk, tsk, d1gitman!! Did you not request your hyperbole pass ahead of time?? You know THAT side of the "debate" requires one!! Come on, now!!



Just foolin' with you guys!

Gone for a while and there's a new test! I'll tune back in later to see what the testers' feedback is this time!

 

[d1gitman]

You do seem to like to jump to the extremes, don't you?

Could you point me to the post where I said I deserve to do what I want when I want with no wait please?

i stand corrected...i believe you said you want short waits

 

[d1gitman]

Reading this thread is like asking someone to insert an ulcer in my stomach.

you will need to prebook that appointment 60 days in advance if you want availability

 

[d1gitman]

I, for one, do not think that Disney owes me the right to have a spontaneous vacation without long lines, but I know that it is one of my requirements. If Disney cannot meet my vacation requirements, they are off the list of places to consider. It really is that simple for some people...

exactly!

I kind of look at it as Disney is working on "the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few"

as much as many of us might not like it, we are likely "the few" when it comes to requiring lots of FP's, short lines, etc....there may indeed come a point where Disney does not meet my vacation requierments. If that time comes, I will have to come up with alternatives. Regardless of my status, I'm sure that WDW will be a vacation destination for millions of guests for many years to come. Whetr this DIS'r or any other DIS'r or all DIS'rs pack up and head over to Universal won't really affect their bottom line. Besides, wouldn't 1 Brazillian tour group make up for our vacancy?

 

[DougEMG]

so what theme park is out there that only has 20min wait times or less because they have higher ratio of attractions per guest thus eradicating the possibility of long stand by? It doesn't seem realistic to me to expect any theme park to create a model where the parks are 1/2 empty on a consistent basis and still be able to stay in business but maybe they do exist out there, i just haven't found any yet.

While not per "park" guest, Universal does have a front of the line express pass that will get you on nearly all rides in under 20 minutes

 

[Arsenal1982]

While not per "park" guest, Universal does have a front of the line express pass that will get you on nearly all rides in under 20 minutes

Disney should offer that as well in addition to the FP+. Users can add the option to their respective park tickets/bands. Make it expensive enough where it will truly limit the amount of folks buying it but enough for it to make financial sense for Disney. Maybe $30 per day per person.

 

[mom2rtk]

Disney should offer that as well in addition to the FP+. Users can add the option to their respective park tickets/bands. Make it expensive enough where it will truly limit the amount of folks buying it but enough for it to make financial sense for Disney. Maybe $30 per day per person.

I'm thinking that would require a higher price point.

 

[DougEMG]

Disney should offer that as well in addition to the FP+. Users can add the option to their respective park tickets/bands. Make it expensive enough where it will truly limit the amount of folks buying it but enough for it to make financial sense for Disney. Maybe $30 per day per person.

That wouldn't be enough. I'm a definite cheapskate and even I would pay for that. I certainly wouldn't be surprised to see FP+ being monotized eventually either with different resorts getting more or the ability to buy more FP+.

 

[Arsenal1982]

That wouldn't be enough. I'm a definite cheapskate and even I would pay for that. I certainly wouldn't be surprised to see FP+ being monotized eventually either with different resorts getting more or the ability to buy more FP+.

So if you're a family of 5 going for 7 nights, you're going to pay $210 per person for a total of $1,050 add on cost?

That cost would be more than some families pay for their hotel for the entire length of their trip.

 

[Shaden]

Once again, you are missing an entire chunk of people....those who spontaneity AND short lines.



Yes, by spontaneity, I mean the ability to decide on the fly which attractions we want to do with the shortest wait. If it's standby or nothing, we won't be going.

When many complain about planning, what they are really complaining about is "advance planning"..... committing to things 60 days out and quite possibly not being able to adjust on the fly when things come up during their trip. I can't even imagine how distasteful this is for folks who like to wake up each morning and decide which park they want to visit. We at least generally commit on which park for each day enough in advance that's not a problem for us.





You know, I'm growing oh..... so..... weary of everyone saying that someone can just change their selections at the last minute when something comes up. That is a HUGE unknown piece of this. Without the right inventory, that option might as well not even BE there.

They don't know what the doctor will say. She could get an all clear, she could get some specific limitations. If the doctor says no mountains, then she might have wished she scheduled ETWB, PP and Wishes viewing instead of the mountains. But it's highly likely those selections will be gone by the time they get the word from the doctor.

The bottom line is that the current system would have met their needs perfectly. And FP+ imposes limitations that add stress where it doesn't need to be. If your child gets sick and you have to do the MK tomorrow instead of today, you shouldn't have to give up your possibility of doing the headliners with short lines.

Allllllllll this, couldn't have said it better

 

[ArwenMarie]

That wouldn't be enough. I'm a definite cheapskate and even I would pay for that. I certainly wouldn't be surprised to see FP+ being monotized eventually either with different resorts getting more or the ability to buy more FP+.

We know the price of an unlimited Fastpass at WDW...it's $1800 a day for the VIP Tour.

I do think it will be monetized in other ways though via resort packages, and buying extra.

 

[MickeyMinnieMom]

So if you're a family of 5 going for 7 nights, you're going to pay $210 per person for a total of $1,050 add on cost?

That cost would be more than some families pay for their hotel for the entire length of their trip.

And it would be a lot less than many other people pay for the hotel room on their trip.

I still think that there's a danger in doing this type of thing for Disney. Winning the battle (short-term revenue) and losing the war (feel-good-Disney-doesn't-descriminate-much-on-in-park-experiences-along-price-lines feeling --> I'm cranky with Disney now that it does).

But who knows...

 

[TarmackQT]

I can't wait to try these out. The add ones look so cool for the bands.

 

[patrickpiteo]

I can't wait to try these out. The add ones look so cool for the bands.

And Disney loves you more $$ to spend... Lol

 

[DougEMG]

So if you're a family of 5 going for 7 nights, you're going to pay $210 per person for a total of $1,050 add on cost?

That cost would be more than some families pay for their hotel for the entire length of their trip.

I would.

The point though is that there are lots of guests staying at deluxe hotels paying $400+ per night and I bet the majority of them would buy an express pass all the time if it was only $30/day extra.

 

[Ladcassidy]

Heck yeah. I'd buy that pass in a heartbeat.

 

[Angel Ariel]

i stand corrected...i believe you said you want short waits

You respond as though that isn't possible or realistic. As I wrote above, we were there during a "busy" season, and rode most headliners - many more than once. We didn't wait more than 30 mins for anything we rode.

now that's not to say there weren't long lines when we were there, there were. but spontaneous use of Fp (not planned, no runners) and an understanding of park dynamics (get there at rope drop, head to the left instead of the right or FL, etc) - helped us experience pretty much everything we wanted to with very little wait.

I didn't need to book something 60 days out for that to happen.