FP crackdowns???

[BamaFan121s]

I personally think that the whole set of "rules" for FPs--and maybe even fastpasses themselves--must be another one of those things that DISers just "made up." I saw it 'declared' the other day that this was the case regarding waiting in lines and that you didn't really have to wait in line if someone was holding your place--that it was a DIS rule, not a Disney guideline. This argument makes about as much sense as that one, so I'm going to assume this is a DIS invented situation. It's about as nonsensical an answer as some of these others I've seen.

 

[Sleeping Becca]

I have PERSONALLY been turned away from Soarin' (twice July 07) AND Space Mt (once) for trying to use a FP outside the assigned times. That being said, I have also been allowed on both those rides on different occasions w/ late FPs. No rhyme or reason...who knows!

I don't at all doubt that you were denied entry. I just think that maybe it is not as widespread as folks think, hence the urban legend reference. Like I said even though I suspect that it may be exaggerated, I'm still not going to test it. I will still do Soarin in the window.

 

[BamaFan121s]

I don't at all doubt that you were denied entry. I just think that maybe it is not as widespread as folks think, hence the urban legend reference. Like I said even though I suspect that it may be exaggerated, I'm still not going to test it. I will still do Soarin in the window.

Who knows? Possibly...all I can go by is what's actually happened to me. (And heck, half the time I don't even believe crap that happens to me myself! )

 

[theresak]

Don't get me started on Six Flags. DH surprised me and took me there (Six Flags over Texas) this past Friday for my birthday (sans kids!!! ). There was a BIG difference in every aspect of the day than being at WDW. From the guests to the food to the upkeep of the park. And it had this disgusting smell from all the sitting water. Yuck! DH kept telling me, I know it's not Disney.

There's no place like "home".

- Jennifer

Oooh I know!!! There was all these areas where you'd pass a stinky smell, and my kids were sitting in the shade at a table - behind the table was a large puddle of mud/muck. which got all over my boy's shoes of course.
I kept thinking, SSOOOO not as good as Disney!!

Not to mention 3.50 for a 20 oz. bottle of pop - I'll never ever think Disney food prices are too much again.

This was Six Flags Gurnee,IL. This past Friday.

 

[Zippa D Doodah]

As I've said many time before, I have yet to be denied entry using a late FP. Disney would be cracked in the head to demand that I meet some arbitrary deadline instead of buying a silly hat or an ice cream cone. I freely and openly accumulate FPs throughout the early part of the day and use the whole pocketful during late afternoon and evening hours.

 

[mickeyluv'r]

There was some great stuff on page 5 and 7, 6 was smooth as silk, but page 8 was a dud.

Nice!

We've seen this debate too many times -...

 

[CanadianGuy]

Soarin' had two periods where late FPs were not accepted. One was "official" (during the tile re-do in the pre-show rooms---during this time, FP return was through the exit). The other was at the iniative of the opening crew. Eventually, the area mgr got wind of it, and "reassigned" a few folks, which put an end to that.

I have PERSONALLY been turned away from Soarin' (twice July 07) AND Space Mt (once) for trying to use a FP outside the assigned times. That being said, I have also been allowed on both those rides on different occasions w/ late FPs. No rhyme or reason...who knows!

July of 07 was a period of construction around the entrance area of Soarin and they were "officially" not accepting late FP's there anytime during the construction.

The Space Mountain anomaly is a little more confusing. hOWEVER, if as suggested there was a broad-based decision to enforce the end times of the FP window at all attractions and all parks.. ... it'd be "the" talk of the Disney sites... it'd be everywhere.. and there would be daily posts about the sudden change in policy here on these boards.

FP are currently accepted past their return on the same day.. same as always. Disney however stil reserves the right to enforce the time on the FP in cases of a change in the operating conditions, lines, weather .. you name it.

Knox

 

[2ndstartotheright]

The closest I can even imagine is what the CM warned of at Soarin' when I asked, i.e. saying that he couldn't guarantee the wait time. I took that to mean that more people than usual use late FPs on that ride because the FPs go so quickly in the summer, so therefore it's more common to have more riding it late.

Don't think any CM at any ride on any day could guarantee a wait time.
So I'd take that to mean the CM was messing with you.

Nobody can ever predict the wait times in FP line or standby line. Makes no difference if it's # of FP users after their window, within their window or just meandering up to standby line.
People ride Soarin from park opening to park closing.

 

[bennyb98]

Adding my two cents... I've gone on Soarin' probably just over 50 times during my time as a CP, using FP nearly everytime I went. I also came back after the time on the window probably about half of those times. I also used FPs past the time on the FP for Space Mt, BTMRR, Peter Pan's Flight, and Soarin on my last trip in April DURING spring break crowds and never had any problem.

Getting turned away with a later time on the same day is the exception not the norm.

 

[bennyb98]

I don't know about you but I like to get a FP and immediately go to the FP entrance and try to wear the CM down until they let me and my tour group of 100 in.

Were you the ones who all wanted to sit in the front row as well? lol

 

[MNWDWMANIAC]

Wow.... this thread is still going strong . I almost thought the alligator in the toilet thread had a small chance to get more postings then this one. But it seems that FP's win hands down.

So I'll just put this guy in here.

Forgive me... it's late, I'm stuck at work and a little bored..... Pirates of the Caribbean the ride is playing on Dis Radio.. I think the drunk pirates are affecting me

 

[Mrs Doubtfire]

Whatever takes your fancy

 

[jmclester]

Are there large numbers of actual posts from people who have been turned away, or is this possibly an urban legend? I have used 'em late at Soarin' multiple times...after reading that here (always "I heard that..." not "I myself got turned away"), that's why I finally asked a CM who told me I would NOT be turned away.

Page 1 post #6 for starters.

 

[goofy4tink]

It always amazes me to see how much argument this stirs up. Disney has stated the time frames for return. They have stated the FP is valid only on that date. Why believe one statement and not the other? Why is the 'valid on date issued' valid, while the return time frame is not?
Comparing it to ADRs is ridiculous. When you make an ADR, you are told you will be seated at the next available table. You are not told that you will be seated at the time of your ADR.

What should guests do as far as FPs are concerned? I guess whatever they want to to. They're going to do that anyway. Have I ever used a FP after it's 'expired'? No. But not because I'm a goody two shoes. I just plan accordingly. If I see the board telling me that the return for FP is going to be while I'm eating, I don't take one. BUT...that's my choice.

As long as Disney CMs are not enforcing the return times, I don't think anyone has any complaints. It's up to Disney to enforce what they have put on FPs...it says 'return between the times listed'...pretty easy to understand. But once again, Disney does not tell their CMs to adhere to that statement. I'm happy they are starting to enforce the date printed though. I have seen people have a stack of FPs from previous trips, that they didn't get to use, and they were able to use them on a future trip. Sorry, but that's blatant misuse, and I'm glad Disney is stopping that.

So....I guess those that wish to use FP at their convenience can continue doing so. But please, don't make the rest of us feel like 'wusses' for returning at the stated times. That's just how we roll.

 

[jmclester]

Disney's policy is to accept FP til the end of the day it was issued. It is not expired and it is not late until park closing of that day. Period.[/QUOTE]
Policy? Gee, that means it's written somewhere and this issue is settled!

Until Disney changes the wording on the front of the ticket to "RETURN AFTER X" from "RETURN BETWEEN X and Y", I'll be in the ranks of those who are running across the park to hit the FP line within the window. And that's not affecting the FP line either.

 

[lucysdad]

It was a CM who told us that the fastpasses were good all day after the window opened a few years ago. We were at AK, rushing to get to Dinosaur for our window, and the CM was trying to fill the Tarzan show (remember that one?) by directing folks to the arena. We said we couldn't go to Tarzan because we would miss our window and, voila!, he filled us in on the little secret. It has worked for us every time, but we've never tried it on Soaring. Maybe I wouldn't chance letting a window pass on that one since so many people have mentioned having trouble there.

Frankly, I think of using this trick like a shortcut getting around traffic by driving through the market parking lot and taking a side street. It is a piece of knowledge that is available to use if you have it, kind of like multiplication. I teach my students that if you could multiply to find the answer, then why would you want to add up all those numbers instead?! I know there are those folks who are very rigid in their thinking, and they would never veer from the path. That's fine for them, if it keeps them comfortable. But, if the system allows for a bit of creativity, then don't be angry at the folks who are willing to take the risks. Maybe it will work, and maybe it won't. Risk-takers learn to live with that.
Lucy's Mom

 

[DC_Tink]

I found this on the Disney Mom's panel, under the Fastpass section of questions. I got to this page by going to the main WDW web site.

"Q: Hey Going to DISNEY WORLD next week. Hurray!! Question is if you have a fast pass that says 3:00 to 4:00 can you use it after 4:00? Thank you so much.

Asked by Alexis on 5/15/2008 Answered by Beatrice R., FL Category

A: FASTPASS Hi Alexis. Yes, Hurray! I love the week or two before traveling to Disney - its so exciting. Per your question on Fastpasses, the good news is that you can nearly always use your Fastpasses at any time that day after the start time shown. I have not yet been turned down when returning with my fastpasses after the "end time" listed.

This is very helpful as you don't have to stay around in one location to avoid your Fastpasses expiring. My suggestion is to collect Fastpasses throughout the day for your favorite rides as soon as your ticket indicates you are now again eligible. This way, you can use these passes between shows and any dining plans you have. Enjoy your trip!"

http://disneyworldforum.disney.go.com/questions.aspx?sort=&page=3&qid=12458&pid=120&cid=125

Seeing how this is located on a site directly sponsored by Disney, I doubt it would be up there, if it weren't true. Short of a statement from Bob Iger, I don't know what else you guys want.

 

[catne]

I found this on the Disney Mom's panel, under the Fastpass section of questions. I got to this page by going to the main WDW web site.
Per your question on Fastpasses, the good news is that you can nearly always use your Fastpasses at any time that day after the start time shown. I have not yet been turned down when returning with my fastpasses after the "end time" listed
http://disneyworldforum.disney.go.com/questions.aspx?sort=&page=3&qid=12458&pid=120&cid=125

Seeing how this is located on a site directly sponsored by Disney, I doubt it would be up there, if it weren't true. Short of a statement from Bob Iger, I don't know what else you guys want.[/QUOTE]

We want a new old-topic to debate...like pool hopping. Or kindergarteners in strollers. Or line-jumping. You know, something that hasn't been covered

Truthfully, what I really want is to be at Disneyworld! Right now! Enjoying myself in a park, not trying to make the time go faster by reading this same debates over & over

 

[goofy4tink]

Okay...then perhaps it's time for Disney to change the wording on the FP...to something a bit less ambiguous.
I have no problem with those who use it after the stated window. I just have to wonder why the heck Disney continues to keep the wording they have now. Why not just make the FP good for all day?
I know...it's probably because this way the rule followers will continue to go at the stated return times, allowing less build up in the FP line at other times.
Just wish they made a policy and stuck to it. Why put the wording there if they don't mean it.

 

[MagicFam5]

This is what happened on our Disney trip last week. We were at MK on Monday, riding COP. CM welcomes us and then tells everybody to get your fast passes for different rides and use them ANYTIME after the start time for the day, that you don't have to go at the stated times. I was suprised. (I'm a FP rule follower!) I did use our FP's after their stated time for Jungle Cruise later in the day with no problem. Maybe the pouring rain had something to do with their dicision to change the rules?