FP crackdowns???

[Brian Noble]

As someone who has had the (not entirely legitimate) opportunity to read the Operations Guides for several attractions, I can tell you the important bits with respect to this question will never be written on the ticket.

That is, unless current policy changes.

(I also know when to "sandbag" a rocket on Space Mountain. )

 

[raebyddet]

I disagree. All of the pertinent info is on the front. The part about no early entry is on the back.

Ok, if you're going to take the back as law and you can do anything with it if it's not written there.......what about the "not transferrable" part. Have you never accepted and used a FP from another guest on their way out of the park or given yours to someone just to be nice? How do you rationalize around that wording? Do you just say "oh, that means not transferrable only if I can't use it"???

I haven't had the opportunity to be able to pass on to someone an unused FP yet, nor have I ever been given one by someone else. Would I do it, yes, is it a violation of the rules, yes. Is it something Disney would likely be upset about, most likely not. If I were to get a Dream FP and already had FP to something else, I would give the other ones away.

 

[raebyddet]

I can tell you the important bits with respect to this question will never be written on the ticket.

You can't just come in here and say that and not give more details.

 

[jmclester]

I disagree. The pertainent info isn't on the ticket, at all. The really important thing is how Disney chooses to handle the FP line. They have made that decision clear, both in words and in practice. A fast pass can be used any time on the date shown as long as it is after the return time. This is completely clear and cannot be made clearer by parsing the verbiage on the ticket.

Then why do so many say they have been turned away from Soarin' with an expired FP?

 

[jmclester]

Apologies.

 

[joe1946]

Then why do so many say they have been turned away from Soarin' with an expired FP?

I'd like to see a graph of the people turned away from Soarin' with an expired FP plotted against how long after their window they tried to use it.

 

[Sleeping Becca]

As mentioned previously Soarin is the one attraction that late FP are regularly refused.

The acceptance of a late FP is not guaranteed, it is Disney's general policy to accept late FP, CMs are trained to allow late but never early FP, sometimes if the FP line is backedup, CM's choose not to allow late FP. Evidently this occurs most at Soarin.

 

[Sk8Leigh]

Ha! You got me!

I specialize in Tax Accounting. So in my profession, there is very little that is absolute. Pretty much any tax question can be answered....it depends.

I'm a CPA, too!

 

[jmclester]

As mentioned previously Soarin is the one attraction that late FP are regularly refused.

The acceptance of a late FP is not guaranteed, it is Disney's general policy to accept late FP, CMs are trained to allow late but never early FP, sometimes if the FP line is backedup, CM's choose not to allow late FP. Evidently this occurs most at Soarin.

Then sbell111 et al, you really can't say that FastPasses are good anytime after they mature as long as they are on the same day b/c it simply is not true.

 

[Robo]

Then sbell111 et al, you really can't say that FastPasses are good anytime after they mature as long as they are on the same day b/c it simply is not true.

By that thinking, saying that "Pirates of the Caribbean is open daily" would be untrue because it might go into a rehab at some point.

 

[Doc CW]

My opinion of the whole FP deal is that if dont make it on time to your FP you shouldnt be allowed to use it b/c you missed it depending on how late like 3 mins late you should have leeway b/c the clocks between you and WDW could be different so if within 5 min I say you should be allowed to use it, but anything after 5 mins you should have been there on time.

 

[Robo]

My opinion of the whole FP deal is that if dont make it on time to your FP you shouldnt be allowed to use it b/c you missed it depending on how late like 3 mins late you should have leeway b/c the clocks between you and WDW could be different so if within 5 min I say you should be allowed to use it, but anything after 5 mins you should have been there on time.

Under 5 minutes late- OK.

Over 5 minute late- No Go.

Got it.
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BTW-
What would happen to the FP line if someone got into it 3 minutes late?

What would happen to the FP line if someone got into it 33 minutes late?

What would happen to the FP line if someone got into it 3 hours late?

 

[Doc CW]

Under 5 minutes late- OK.

Over 5 minute late- No Go.

Got it.
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BTW-
What would happen to the FP line if someone got into it 3 minutes late?

What would happen to the FP line if someone got into it 33 minutes late?

What would happen to the FP line if someone got into it 3 hours late?

IDK thats just my opinion on how they should handle the FP system

 

[Robo]

IDK thats just my opinion on how they should handle the FP system

The point of the question is WHY should they handle the FP system that way.

What reason do you have for cutting off the "late-comers" at 5 minutes?

There could be a good reason that you have, that's why I asked.

 

[SplashMountainMama]

I admit, when I first discovered (here, of course ) that FP's are accepted after the assigned time it was a bit like winning the lottery and we have used FP's "after hours" on all trips since. We've never been turned away when using them this way, but I'm always a little leary of the CM's at Soarin' because they seem to be notoriously picky about FP/child swap policies. We had an issue with child swap last trip at Soarin'. I can't see myself making a scene if I was ever refused entry after stated time, I figure it's a gamble I'm taking. What I don't understand, however, are the people who have stated that they would be OK with returning 1/2 hour after the time, but not several hours after. It would seem to me that you're either in favour of the policy being strict or you're not. If you really believe the policy needs to be strictly enforced or else it will screw up wait times for everyone then it wouldn't matter whether you are 1/2 hour late or 6 hours late because you would be outside the window. Am I missing something???

 

[Robo]

If you really believe the policy needs to be strictly enforced or else it will screw up wait times for everyone then it wouldn't matter whether you are 1/2 hour late or 6 hours late because you would be outside the window. Am I missing something???

Ding-Ding-Ding!!

 

[Doc CW]

The point of the question is WHY should they handle the FP system that way.

What reason do you have for cutting off the "late-comers" at 5 minutes?

There could be a good reason that you have, that's why I asked.

B/c it tells you what time to return to the ride so you should plan to be back at that ride or attraction at that time so there really shouldnt be a reason as to why your late for the FP return and therefore you shouldnt be allowed into the FP line

 

[*disgal*]

Ding-Ding-Ding!!

 

[*disgal*]

B/c it tells you what time to return to the ride so you should plan to be back at that ride or attraction at that time so there really shouldnt be a reason as to why your late for the FP return and therefore you shouldnt be allowed into the FP line

Huh?? what if you had an ADR at CP at the exact same time as your FP? You're supposed to give up your meal because of your FP? Or give up your FP? I'm sure Disney doesn't want me to give up spending $125 at CP for my FP.

 

[dzorn]

My opinion of the whole FP deal is that if dont make it on time to your FP you shouldnt be allowed to use it b/c you missed it depending on how late like 3 mins late you should have leeway b/c the clocks between you and WDW could be different so if within 5 min I say you should be allowed to use it, but anything after 5 mins you should have been there on time.

I'll go for this rule when Disney actually seats you for your ADR's within 5 minutes.

Denise in MI