Four Seasons and Waldorf Astoria at Disney

[dizchick]

Not that I will probably ever stay at these, but are plans still underway to build both? If I remember correctly, the Four Seasons was being built on Disney property, while the Waldorf Astoria was in Bonnet Creek. When are they planned to be complete? Are there any artist renderings of what each will look like?

 

[CanadianGuy]

The Waldorf at Bonnet Creek has an artists rendering here:

http://www.insidethecorridor.com/1.htm

Construction started in April of 2007 with the groundbreaking and it's expected to be complete sometime in 2009. This is not in partnership with Disney in any way, shape or form. The Bonnet Creek land is technically Disney adjacent but actually buts in slightly to Disney property.

The Bonnet Creek land parcel came about as a result of a landowner who refused to sell to Disney at any price.. even before they knew the scope of the proposed development.

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As for the Four Seasons ... when originally announced all the press releases stated an opening in 2010.

I'll personally be surprised if they meet that date. I expect that it will be 2011 in all likelihood before that resort opens it doors. There are not artists's renderings of this proposed development.

Hope this helps,

Knox

 

[TheRustyScupper]

. . . Not that I will probably ever stay at these . . . the Four Seasons was being built on Disney property, while the Waldorf Astoria was in Bonnet Creek . . .

1) Don't be too quick to judge.
2) You may very well may stay there.
3) Either can charge hefty rates and still be below resorts like GF and Poly.
4) Let's fact it, the value would be far superior
. . . true concierge service, instead of what Disney calls "concierge"
. . . period and themed eateries and bars
. . . the famed Waldorf and upscale Four Seasons service
. . . great amenities for which both are known
. . . ambiance that fine hotels display for guests

NOTE: As an example, you can stay at the Ritz Carlton in Orlando on the Concierge Floor for less then GF, and you get a FREE MERCEDES to use during your stay. You can imagine the goodies from the Waldorf and Four Seasons.

 

[dizchick]

The Waldorf at Bonnet Creek has an artists rendering here:

http://www.insidethecorridor.com/1.htm

Construction started in April of 2007 with the groundbreaking and it's expected to be complete sometime in 2009. This is not in partnership with Disney in any way, shape or form. The Bonnet Creek land is technically Disney adjacent but actually buts in slightly to Disney property.

The Bonnet Creek land parcel came about as a result of a landowner who refused to sell to Disney at any price.. even before they knew the scope of the proposed development.

---

As for the Four Seasons ... when originally announced all the press releases stated an opening in 2010.

I'll personally be surprised if they meet that date. I expect that it will be 2011 in all likelihood before that resort opens it doors. There are not artists's renderings of this proposed development.

Hope this helps,

Knox

Thanks for the link! I always wondered why Bonnet Creek was right there in the middle of Disney. It does appear that the Waldorf is further along than the Four Seasons. Have they even broken ground on the Four Seasons?

1) Don't be too quick to judge.
2) You may very well may stay there.
3) Either can charge hefty rates and still be below resorts like GF and Poly.
4) Let's fact it, the value would be far superior
. . . true concierge service, instead of what Disney calls "concierge"
. . . period and themed eateries and bars
. . . the famed Waldorf and upscale Four Seasons service
. . . great amenities for which both are known
. . . ambiance that fine hotels display for guests

NOTE: As an example, you can stay at the Ritz Carlton in Orlando on the Concierge Floor for less then GF, and you get a FREE MERCEDES to use during your stay. You can imagine the goodies from the Waldorf and Four Seasons.

I agree! The value would be far superior to the GF or Polynesian. Although they are luxury Disney resorts, in real life, they seem sub-par to true luxury resorts. Don't get me wrong, I think both are very nice, but are nothing compared to Ritzs, Four Seasons, the Waldorf, Mandarin Orientals or Peninsula hotels. Of course, Disney is serving an entirely different demographic. I guess that's why I'm surprised that there is a market for so many luxury resorts at Disney. Are they playing up the golf aspect? Or maybe it is a truly untapped market. Maybe it's the business market, I know my old job would not have blinked an eye at the rates. Hopefully I will get to stay in them some day!

 

[MsStinkerBelle]

I am beyond excited that a Waldorf-Astoria is being built. At least if I stay there I'll be at a true deluxe resort *and* get Hilton HHonors points! It'll be interesting to see the 'market adjustment' after this and the Four Seasons open.

 

[CanadianGuy]

One thing to keep in mind....

These resorts will be charging a premium for their proximity to Disney.. the Four Seasons especially so.. since they will no doubt either be leasing the land from Disney or paying off a very large bill for the purchase.

While they will no doubt include all kinds of goodies, I would expect their normally hefty rates to be even heftier for these two properties..

Knox

 

[chrisw127]

One thing to keep in mind....

These resorts will be charging a premium for their proximity to Disney.. the Four Seasons especially so.. since they will no doubt either be leasing the land from Disney or paying off a very large bill for the purchase.

While they will no doubt include all kinds of goodies, I would expect their normally hefty rates to be even heftier for these two properties..

Knox

Well, a girl can dream . . . .

 

[G8r4evr]

I am beyond excited that a Waldorf-Astoria is being built. At least if I stay there I'll be at a true deluxe resort *and* get Hilton HHonors points! It'll be interesting to see the 'market adjustment' after this and the Four Seasons open.

Im interested to see the market adjustment as well.

 

[G8r4evr]

1) Don't be too quick to judge.
2) You may very well may stay there.
3) Either can charge hefty rates and still be below resorts like GF and Poly.
4) Let's fact it, the value would be far superior
. . . true concierge service, instead of what Disney calls "concierge"
. . . period and themed eateries and bars
. . . the famed Waldorf and upscale Four Seasons service
. . . great amenities for which both are known
. . . ambiance that fine hotels display for guests

NOTE: As an example, you can stay at the Ritz Carlton in Orlando on the Concierge Floor for less then GF, and you get a FREE MERCEDES to use during your stay. You can imagine the goodies from the Waldorf and Four Seasons.

Good to know. I may just have to check out the Ritz on my next visit!

 

[mdhkitten]

I just attended a timeshare presentation at Bonnet Creek, and they said in addition to the Waldorf, there is also a Conrad Hilton being built on their property. I'm not familiar with this particular type of Hilton, so is this a good thing?

 

[ntsammy5]

in addition to the Waldorf, there is also a Conrad Hilton being built on their property. I'm not familiar with this particular type of Hilton, so is this a good thing?

We stay in Hilton's frequently but never in Conrad. Now I'm interested too. Anyone?

 

[simonkodousek]

Is the Mercedes chauffered??

 

[TheRustyScupper]

Is the Mercedes chauffered??

1) Alas, no.
2) I know, kind of an insult to drive oneself.
3) At least you don't pay for overnight valet parking.

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This car vacation package includes:

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S 500 - Silver 4-door Sedan
SLK 350 - Silver Convertible
ML 350 - Silver SUV

Rates vary by season, starting at $509 for a Club Lake Front View Room, and from $999 for a Club Executive Suite. Driver of the Mercedes-Benz must be 21 years of age or older, and must possess a valid driver's license. ​