For Ottawa residents: Allegiant from Ogdensburg

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Allegiant airlines has posted their fares and schedules for flights from Ogdensburg to Orlando (Sanford). Flights will be twice a week and fares start at $55USD each way. We've flown with them from Plattsburgh before. Super no frills service but it gets you there cheaply. And as long as you don't need Magical Express, Sanford is so much easier to deal with than MCO.
 
Cool! Wednesday and Saturday departures, mostly evenings, but I did pull a couple of morning. Highest price I saw was $220 on Christmas week. Interesting that Allegiant lists the airport as "Ogdensburg NY/Ottawa ON"

We drove by the airport construction about 3 weeks ago now, they were making pretty good headway on the runway extension, and grading for the rerouting of the highway was going on. Looks like the October start is doable.
 
I think I read a while ago that Allegiant has all kinds of extra add on fees. Anyone have any idea what these add up to? I'm thinking of comparing this to say flying Southwest where baggage is included as are a snack and seating (well it is Southwest). The prices look great especially if you travel Wednesday - Wednesday. Definitely worth considering for trip south.
 
Just did a quick check on fees. Reserved seats are $13-$25 per seat. Carry on bags are $36. Checked bags are $50. So they can add up quickly if you don't pack light.
 

I just checked them out too. It seems that the February departures from Ogdensburg are 1030 or something which is fine. The problem is the way back.... it's 7am. That won't work for our family. It would mess up our last day in Orlando too much. O hope next year it's slightly better.......
 
Moving to Ottawa in a week. I had no idea about that airport. Thanks so much for sharing.
 
While we will continue flying WestJet out of Ottawa for many reasons, I am hoping that the Ogdensburg competition might lower some of the airfare out of Ottawa.

SW
 
We just found out DH might be transferred to Ottawa, how long a drive is it to Ogdensburg? Just for future reference :smooth:
 
We just found out DH might be transferred to Ottawa, how long a drive is it to Ogdensburg? Just for future reference :smooth:

It depends where in the city you live. For us it is 30 minutes to the border, plus crossing time (cross the bridge, wait in line, speak with US CBP, pay toll drive to state road) -- I figure if I get all of it done in 45 minutes I have done well, an hour meant there was a long line at the border and more than that and something went wrong or I was silly enough to try crossing with the hordes of others on a long weekend heavy travel time.

From say Orleans you are looking at closer to an hour to get to the border.

SW
 
About an hour, plus however long crossing the border takes.
Which is generally pretty quick. Prescott/Ogdensburg has to be the sleepiest crossing in all of Ontario. Returning from March break at around 4:00pm on the Sunday, there were two cars at the border. The year before we crossed at Gananoque and waited about 45 minutes. On the flip side, if you are over limit you are more likely to be pulled over to pay taxes; they don't have a lot to do there.
We have a MyUSAddress in Ogdensburg, so that is our preferred crossing generally in at least one direction.
 
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Wow, thanks for all the tips! There's so many different areas, we may rent for a bit until we figure out where we really want/need to be...
 
The $57 flights from Ogdensburg did not last long. Just checked again for Jan 4 to Jan 14 and it was $700ish for 4 and now the same trip is $1600+.

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The $57 flights from Ogdensburg did not last long. Just checked again for Jan 4 to Jan 14 and it was $700ish for 4 and now the same trip is $1600+.

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Wow that is crazy! I had really hoped this would be more budget. The Jet Blue flights out of Syracuse still offer some deals but it is more of a drive to get there.

I wound up booking a December WestJet flight (with 25% off sale) that was just a little more than the price I could get using Allegiant out of Ogdensburg. Once I factored in additional costs (exchange rate, seat selection, baggage fees, etc... ) the WestJet flight made sense. It was direct and in the WestJet Plus section (so no additional seat or baggage fees --- plus it includes a meal.) You definitely need to factor in all the costs. Plus the WestJet flights were way more convenient time-wise - arrive in WDW around 1PM on arrival day and leave Orlando at 10PM --- really maximizes the trip.

The other thing is that Allegiant flies into Sanford --- so no Magical Express. This is a solo trip for me and I don't want to deal with renting a car. The cost of transfer would have made the travel cost more expensive.

For those in Ottawa it's definitely worth joining the WestJet Rewards, Jet Blue program and the Allegiant program to regularly get emails for seat sales. I hope that the service from Ogdensburg survives because I do think it makes Canadian airlines more cost realistic (competition), but for a no-frills airline those prices are high (once you factor in the exchange.)
 
We flew Allegiant twice out of Plattsburgh, NY and both time we had huge delays for mechanical issues. The first time we had to wait 6h for our plane to get the okay to depart from St.Pete, FL and the second time they had to get a new plane for our flight back from Ft. Lauderdale. Now I'm not even looking at their pricing since I don't trust them and when adding luggage fees and seat selection (we have to young kids), the price difference was rarely worth it.
 
IMO, anyone travelling to Florida from Ottawa should consider AllegiantAir.

First as far as the distance, obviously OGS is farther than YOW for most in the Ottawa area but you really have to consider the total time. For an international flight, from YOW, you have to get there at least 2 hours before departure. Most people in the Ottawa area need about 30 minutes (or more) to drive to the airport and park so you really need to leave home about 2 1/2 hours (or more) before your flight. To fly from OGS, most people will need about 1 hour to drive to there. Customs (i.e. security) usually only takes 15 minutes or less and then you probably only need to arrive 30-45 minutes before the flight so the travel time for most travellers will probably be less to OGS than it is to YOW. I certainly think that you can leave for a flight from OGS at the same time as you'd leave for a flight from YOW.

Cost is likely the biggest factor for most travellers. AllegiantAir does nickle and dime for everything so you really have to look at the total cost. AllegiantAir does fluctuate a lot but in my experience, they are pretty much always cheaper even after all the cost. Looking at XMas vacation (Dec24-Jan7), to fly OGS-SFB, it's about $485US each with one checked-in luggage each leg (but no seat reservation (I believe the luggage is $35/each leg)). For the same dates WestJet, it's about $1150CND with one checked luggage. You also have to consider parking costs. Unfortunately, OGS stopped offering free parking this year but it's still significantly cheaper than YOW ($8US vs $16CND / day (long term)).

The other issue for those travelling to Orlando is landing in SFB vs MCO. I think for many, SFB is a bit of a pain (from my experience rental cars are more expensive but I think we've only rented a once or twice), no Magical Express from SFB. That said, travelling to / from SFB can be much nicer than travelling from MCO because of the crowds (a few years ago, I almost missed my return flight from MCO because we *only* arrived 2 hours before the flight. I already had my boarding pass and I didn't have any checked luggage but it took 2 hours to check-in and get through security (I ended up having to cut the line at security and run to the gate and my wife (who had gone ahead with our kids while I was parking or something) held the plane at the gate (using the excuse that she couldn't fly alone with our 2 young kids (one is special needs). SFB is busier than most other airports Allegiant flies to / from but you can probably get there 45 minutes or an hour before a flight and have no problems at all.

Certainly one of the big concerns with AllegiantAir is that the flight dates and times are limited (hopefully it will expand in the future but right now, it's Wednesdays and Saturdays) but if you can work with those days, then it's available. The other issue is there are no "backup" flights. From my experience / observation, Allegiant is pretty good about dealing with delays of their own causing but if you miss the flight, then you are pretty much screwed ...

A lot of people mention delays and maintenance issues with Allegiant but over the last 6 years, we've flown about 15 times with them and I believe we've had 3 significant delays (more than 30-45 minutes) with them. First time (from PBG), another airline (USAirways I believe) was delayed and were blocking the gate so we had to wait for 1 or 2 hours for that plane before the Allegiant plane (which was sitting on the tarmac) could approach the gate and we could board). The second time (from SYR), the flight from Florida used up more fuel than anticipated so had to refuel but it appears that they couldn't get fuel from SYR (it was one of their first flights from SYR so maybe they didn't have the account setup or something) so we ended up having to fly from SYR to Pennsylvania and then Pennsylvania to Florida. The total delay was probably about 5 hours mostly because it looks like the biggest delay for them is filing new flight plans and getting approval. The 3rd time (from Scranton), there was a mechanical issue so we were delayed about 2 hours. Having said that, we pretty much just travel in winter where flight delays / missed connections / cancellations are very common. We've had 3 delays but no cancellations (and obviously no missed connections since Allegiant only flies direct). There are delays / cancellations with all airlines and while I won't say that Allegiant is better than others, I don't think it's that much worse than others.

Hope this helps,
Mike
 
I rememeber emailing JetBlue about Ogdensburg operations about 2 years ago when this was still in planning- I was asking if they would be positioning to fly out of there. I never heard back from them but we have to assume they are drooling at the opportunity. If and when that happens I would be thrilled as they have a better appeal than Allegiant (for reasons noted above) in my opinion. Keep in mind that this is all good in the context of competition as Ottawa prices have lowered and direct availability has improved. I remember pricing out the direct Yow Mco about 3 yrs ago and it would have cost us over $3000 for 4 people! We flew out of Syracuse that year
 
I rememeber emailing JetBlue about Ogdensburg operations about 2 years ago when this was still in planning- I was asking if they would be positioning to fly out of there. I never heard back from them but we have to assume they are drooling at the opportunity. If and when that happens I would be thrilled as they have a better appeal than Allegiant (for reasons noted above) in my opinion. Keep in mind that this is all good in the context of competition as Ottawa prices have lowered and direct availability has improved. I remember pricing out the direct Yow Mco about 3 yrs ago and it would have cost us over $3000 for 4 people! We flew out of Syracuse that year

I wouldn't be surprised if AllegiantAir have some sort of exclusivity deal with OGS since they subsidized the airport expansion.

As far as prices for flights from Ottawa (or Montreal) being lower, I haven't seen it (Direct flight from YOW or YUL to MCO for Dec 24 2016 to Jan 7 2017 are roughly $1100CND plus baggage fees per person (that's about 50% more than the $3k you listed for 4). AllegiantAir is around $450US plus luggage fees).
 














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