for lack of a better phrase is this a bait and switch or considered unethical

Without having heard your resort rep's exact words, I'd bet they were carefully crafted to "offer you a special deal" -- something you'd assume meant a, well, special deal ... but, when push comes to shove, actually could mean anything.

I'm not opposed to going to a time share sales pitch ... but I wouldn't buy. My parents used to take us to them ALL THE TIME, and we enjoyed playing video games (which weren't widely available yet) while they heard the pitch. My husband and I've done a couple of them, and we know how to win that game:

- Refuse the breakfast or snack they offer. That's on your own time /not included in the 90 or 120 minutes to which you've committed.
- When they make small talk about your job, express a sincere interest in getting started with the sales pitch! You're excited to see it! Excited to buy! They want to judge your ability to pay, and they want to see whether you have kids, etc. so they can tailor their pitch to your spacial needs. A good phrase: "Oh, we came to get away from our jobs and home life!"
- When you go in, look at your watch and express an interest to get started right away because you have a reservation shortly after the 90 or 120 minute time slot.
- When they start talking about "vacation math" and how it makes sense to commit to your family's time together /how you can have a condo for the price of a standard hotel room (you can't), AGREE! Zip them right through, saying you feel the same way, and you already own one time share and want more!
- When they talk about how you can trade /go to different places, AGREE AGAIN. You already understand the idea and love it!
- Now it's time to look at the unit itself. Insist upon driving your own vehicle -- unless you can walk. Do not put yourself into a position where you're at their mercy for a ride back. Look at it quickly. You LOVE EVERYTHING.
- Now it's time to look at the prices. Oooooh, you are shocked. HOW could it be so high? Open your purse and pull out print-outs of the same condos on the resale market. They'll be like 10% the cost of new. Express your shock, ask WHY you should pay so much when you could buy a previously owned time share for a fraction of the price. Your first time share, of course, you bought second-hand, and you had NO IDEA new cost so much. Explain that you could NEVER pay so much more for the same product -- it's just not responsible fiscal behavior.
- The sales rep will explain that by purchasing new you get a couple benefits -- a couple plane tickets, an extra week. Express shock again -- that doesn't make up for the vast difference in the price.
- Shake your head and say you're done. You'd like to collect your rewards and go.

I promise, this method'll get you in and out in less than the allotted time.
 
Without having heard your resort rep's exact words, I'd bet they were carefully crafted to "offer you a special deal" -- something you'd assume meant a, well, special deal ... but, when push comes to shove, actually could mean anything.

I'm not opposed to going to a time share sales pitch ... but I wouldn't buy. My parents used to take us to them ALL THE TIME, and we enjoyed playing video games (which weren't widely available yet) while they heard the pitch. My husband and I've done a couple of them, and we know how to win that game:

- Refuse the breakfast or snack they offer. That's on your own time /not included in the 90 or 120 minutes to which you've committed.
- When they make small talk about your job, express a sincere interest in getting started with the sales pitch! You're excited to see it! Excited to buy! They want to judge your ability to pay, and they want to see whether you have kids, etc. so they can tailor their pitch to your spacial needs. A good phrase: "Oh, we came to get away from our jobs and home life!"
- When you go in, look at your watch and express an interest to get started right away because you have a reservation shortly after the 90 or 120 minute time slot.
- When they start talking about "vacation math" and how it makes sense to commit to your family's time together /how you can have a condo for the price of a standard hotel room (you can't), AGREE! Zip them right through, saying you feel the same way, and you already own one time share and want more!
- When they talk about how you can trade /go to different places, AGREE AGAIN. You already understand the idea and love it!
- Now it's time to look at the unit itself. Insist upon driving your own vehicle -- unless you can walk. Do not put yourself into a position where you're at their mercy for a ride back. Look at it quickly. You LOVE EVERYTHING.
- Now it's time to look at the prices. Oooooh, you are shocked. HOW could it be so high? Open your purse and pull out print-outs of the same condos on the resale market. They'll be like 10% the cost of new. Express your shock, ask WHY you should pay so much when you could buy a previously owned time share for a fraction of the price. Your first time share, of course, you bought second-hand, and you had NO IDEA new cost so much. Explain that you could NEVER pay so much more for the same product -- it's just not responsible fiscal behavior.
- The sales rep will explain that by purchasing new you get a couple benefits -- a couple plane tickets, an extra week. Express shock again -- that doesn't make up for the vast difference in the price.
- Shake your head and say you're done. You'd like to collect your rewards and go.

I promise, this method'll get you in and out in less than the allotted time.
It sounds like you really enjoy the "challenge" of these presentations! Good for you!
 
Without having heard your resort rep's exact words, I'd bet they were carefully crafted to "offer you a special deal" -- something you'd assume meant a, well, special deal ... but, when push comes to shove, actually could mean anything.

I'm not opposed to going to a time share sales pitch ... but I wouldn't buy. My parents used to take us to them ALL THE TIME, and we enjoyed playing video games (which weren't widely available yet) while they heard the pitch. My husband and I've done a couple of them, and we know how to win that game:

- Refuse the breakfast or snack they offer. That's on your own time /not included in the 90 or 120 minutes to which you've committed.
- When they make small talk about your job, express a sincere interest in getting started with the sales pitch! You're excited to see it! Excited to buy! They want to judge your ability to pay, and they want to see whether you have kids, etc. so they can tailor their pitch to your spacial needs. A good phrase: "Oh, we came to get away from our jobs and home life!"
- When you go in, look at your watch and express an interest to get started right away because you have a reservation shortly after the 90 or 120 minute time slot.
- When they start talking about "vacation math" and how it makes sense to commit to your family's time together /how you can have a condo for the price of a standard hotel room (you can't), AGREE! Zip them right through, saying you feel the same way, and you already own one time share and want more!
- When they talk about how you can trade /go to different places, AGREE AGAIN. You already understand the idea and love it!
- Now it's time to look at the unit itself. Insist upon driving your own vehicle -- unless you can walk. Do not put yourself into a position where you're at their mercy for a ride back. Look at it quickly. You LOVE EVERYTHING.
- Now it's time to look at the prices. Oooooh, you are shocked. HOW could it be so high? Open your purse and pull out print-outs of the same condos on the resale market. They'll be like 10% the cost of new. Express your shock, ask WHY you should pay so much when you could buy a previously owned time share for a fraction of the price. Your first time share, of course, you bought second-hand, and you had NO IDEA new cost so much. Explain that you could NEVER pay so much more for the same product -- it's just not responsible fiscal behavior.
- The sales rep will explain that by purchasing new you get a couple benefits -- a couple plane tickets, an extra week. Express shock again -- that doesn't make up for the vast difference in the price.
- Shake your head and say you're done. You'd like to collect your rewards and go.

I promise, this method'll get you in and out in less than the allotted time.

Problem is, all of the major timeshare programs - including DVC - are similar in how they function and if you buy resell you lose a lot of the perks. Look how DVC’s resell value was hurt when it stripped the program perks from resell (and stopped exercising first right of refusal as often). And yet there’s no shortage of members on these forums willing to give DVC their $$& - even at 12.5% interest.

Point is, the reseal argument won’t get you out of there so fast anymore because buying the program does have value and they will try to sell that to you.

If they think you’re a candidate, they will keep you there. Really the only way out is to insist once your time is up and it’s never easy. Alternatively, don’t show interest in the program but don’t act as if you can be sold.
 
If you have ZERO intention to buy a timeshare..................DON'T attend their 'free' sale pitch. It is just a scheme to force you to have to sit through one of their high pressure sales pitches. While Disney seems reputable, there is no guarantee they won't decide in the future they no longer want to be in the 'timeshare' business and dump it off on some less reputable firm.
 
OP here its been a week since I told the agent I would call back last sat to book the luau but for sure not doing the timeshare

what surprises me is she hasnt called me back I thought for sure she would get back to me since she seemed so anixous to book this I think they get commission
I was read yto explain how I didnt like being told about this great discount for being a resort guest and then when I was ready to book then it turns into a timeshare
so even though it costs a bit more I just booked it on my own and even did the upgrade package
 
OP here its been a week since I told the agent I would call back last sat to book the luau but for sure not doing the timeshare

what surprises me is she hasnt called me back I thought for sure she would get back to me since she seemed so anixous to book this I think they get commission
I was read yto explain how I didnt like being told about this great discount for being a resort guest and then when I was ready to book then it turns into a timeshare
so even though it costs a bit more I just booked it on my own and even did the upgrade package
If you already told her you aren’t interested in the timeshare presentation, then you’re no longer of interest to her. I wouldn’t expect to hear back from her. She probably marked you as low sales chance and moved on to the next prospect.
 












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