For Gosh Sakes...Act Like You Got Some Sense!!!

[Grumpy23]

quote - This seems pretty inexcusable to me. If you have managed to live your entire life up until now without needing a scooter (except for those with recently broken legs), odds are you don't need it now, and are just being lazy.

Whoa, I think you hardly can assume that every person driving a scooter is lazy. My husband and I have been going to Disney World every year since 2003. By the age of 50, he had 2 failed knee replacements on his right knee. His knee, all the way down to his shin is severely damaged because of doctor error and putting the knee and rod in crooked the first time, and will never be the same again.

While you can't tell by looking at him, other than the fact that he has the scar, and he walks with a cane most of the time, he is considered disabled by the dozens of doctors he has seen. They do not want to replace the knee again, he is only 54. His only option is to have the knee removed and one leg shorter than the other. He was too stubborn and proud to accept riding on a scooter until I practically forced him to use one, this past year. Up until then, he walked every single park, every single year, in great pain and I just couldn't watch him suffer any longer, just because he enjoys Disney World. His knee and leg would swell up so bad after walking the parks, but he would go for a couple of hours, and spend the rest of the day in bed, preparing for the next day. So he finally caved in and now rents a scooter, and his park visits are much more pleasant now.

With that said, I am currently having foot issues. I have a bone spur on the top of my right foot, and cysts that are strangling my tendons in my foot, which makes it extremely painful for me to walk, and even put on shoes or sandals. I already had surgery once, and the bone spur grew back. I am currently trying to decide whether I want to have it done again, because the doctor cannot guarantee it will not happen again, and again, and again.

So, does that mean that I'm lazy because "I" decided to rent a scooter at a park when I was there 2 weeks ago, so that I could enjoy it without pain, and my husband is lazy because a doctor messed up his knee? I think before you judge someone, you should walk a mile in their shoes, or in this case, feet or leg, and if you are healthy and are able to walk around Disney World pain free, then you should get down on your healthy knees and thank God you can. Just because someone is having a health issue, and does what they have to do to enjoy the same thing you are enjoying, does not make them lazy. I sure hope my DH doesn't read this thread

 

[kalidk]

Now I don't think that is what the poster meant. See if I am right here. I just got back last night and the scooter/wheelchair is a touchy subject. Now let me explain what I have seen many, many times including last week. I see a family one person is in a wheelchair and the family is going around the park, ok fine well a few hours later I see the same family walking around and now the teenager is in the chair going from ride to ride while mom (who was in the chair) is walking fine carrying bags shopping and so on....Now a third time I see this same family with a third person in the chair. They get on rides quicker and the little extras. I have seen this same exact scene many times with the scooter and the wheelchair. I am not saying that if you need the chair/scooter you shouldn't get on a ride sooner or later, the scooters/chairs are there for a reason and if you need it and your family gets on a ride or in a show before me so what, BUT if your using the chair/scooter to make things easier for you and your family to get into shows first ect...When you DON'T need one, that is when ppl who use them get a bad rap...And if you need one you know how to use it, so the ppl who I believe are mowing ppl down are those who are lazy and don't want to walk the parks. My hubby is 44 and has ostero-arthritis in his whole left side and had a hip replacement at the age of 38 and these trips kill him... but he believes leave the chairs/scooters until the day comes I really need it....I hope this makes sense....

 

[princessgirl2238]

i think sometimes the scooter issue is a little sensitive with me- my sister loves to come down and visit me on college breaks and go to the parks- well she's only 21 and already has really bad problems with her knees from dance and gymnastics since she was 2yrs, it makes walking in the parks really hard for her, so to be able to enjoy a full day at the parks, we have to rent her an electric wheelchair- she's fairly young looking and skinny and so when other people (mainly older ones) see her, they tend to make rude comments as we pass by such as how we're so lazy and how we shouldn't cheat other people waiting in lines- well i understand that there are those out there that purposely rent them to get out of waiting (and now disney has a new way to prevent that problem) and my sister and i always wait in line or use fastpass- it just angers me so much that people assume things and have to comment about them without knowing if there really is a good reason for using the wheelchair (not everyone is doing something shaddy if they are younger and using them)

 

[DJSMOM]

I just got back yesterday....My observation is that the bus transportation situation was lacking every single day. My husband stood every night coming home. I sat because of a few kind men who took pity on me trying to hold a sleeping 3 year old. Once or twice, I actually stood and let the women/men holding smaller children than myself, sit. Teenagers and men who I saw run for the bus stayed seated the whole time. I was brought up that common courtesy was to let the eldery and such sit on the bus....I don't think it is common sense that was missing but common courtesy.

 

[maxiesmom]

I know seating on the busses is a touchy subject, but I'll dive right in.

Some people will not get on a standing room only bus. They will wait for a bus that they can have a seat on. Maybe that is why they didn't stand and give up their seat. Maybe they were not capable of standing at that time. Many people, some very young, have problems that you cannot see just by looking at them. That could be why you were not offered a seat. And maybe it was just an "I got here before you, I'm not giving it up "mentality. If this is something that truly bothers you, if you have to have a seat, then take it upon yourself. Either wait for a bus you can sit on, call a taxi, or rent a car. I can't see getting on a bus with a small child and expecting someone to get up. If you feel you must have a seat for safety's sake, then see to it that you do. Why gamble?

 

[Chuck S]

Maybe we can start our own 'community of tomorrow' where manners/courtesy/consideration of others are the LAW.

Sadly, all the things people have problems with at the parks (and I agree with everything posted here!) come from people who have the same rude, selfish, pigheaded mannerisms at home.

Let's call our new town Mannerville.
The OP can be Mayor if s/he wants.

They tried that, but only on the wives...it was called Stepford.

 

[PhotobearSam]

How does Disney do this???

ell i understand that there are those out there that purposely rent them to get out of waiting (and now disney has a new way to prevent that problem)

I did not know they changed any rules recently...

 

[Fitswimmer]

I've seen people at the parks-mostly teenagers- that get the chairs and clearly do not need them. It's painfully obvious and it is an insult to anyone who actually needs one. However, I do believe that what you give out, you get back and anyone who rents a wheelchair or ECV to speed up their Disney trip will be repaid in full.
I've also seen parents rent strollers for kids who also clearly do not need them either. I know Disney takes care to have plenty available, but it would be sad if a family who really needed a stroller, wheelchair or ECV could not get one because someone who did not need one was using it to carry belongings, attempt to get on rides faster or push people around who just "don't feel like doing all that walking". Every time I go to the parks and see someone who has to use a chair to get around, I'm thankful that I still have 2 strong legs that will propel me around-even though they get pretty sore by the end of a long day!

 

[DISNEYSPORTS19]

Oh my-what a great way to start my day-I'm in my office with tears running down my face from laughing so hard-well said!

 

[TinkerbellMama]

Making a Disboard confession, here...

I am guilty of something people always complain about on these threads, and I'll 'fess up now...

Sometimes I am clueless when I am in someone's way. I guess I don't have really good awareness of when others are right next to me in a crowd, and occasionally I realize I have been blocking someone's path and/or stopped short in front of someone (because I didn't realize they were RIGHT THERE). HOWEVER, in my defense, I always apologize profusely and feel really bad about it, and would never be upset at someone who ran into me as a result of my lack of attention.

You may commence the stoning at this point.

 

[XOoOoVEEoOoOX]

I know seating on the busses is a touchy subject, but I'll dive right in.

Some people will not get on a standing room only bus. They will wait for a bus that they can have a seat on. Maybe that is why they didn't stand and give up their seat. Maybe they were not capable of standing at that time. Many people, some very young, have problems that you cannot see just by looking at them. That could be why you were not offered a seat. And maybe it was just an "I got here before you, I'm not giving it up "mentality. If this is something that truly bothers you, if you have to have a seat, then take it upon yourself. Either wait for a bus you can sit on, call a taxi, or rent a car. I can't see getting on a bus with a small child and expecting someone to get up. If you feel you must have a seat for safety's sake, then see to it that you do. Why gamble?

I was one of those people who waited for the next bus It was myself, my sister my nephew(2yrs) and 2 nieces (4 yrs) we got on he bus and had the 2 girls share one seat, i held the stroller and my sister held the baby boy, once the bus was full and ready to depart I looked up and saw a young lady carrying an infant, couldnt have been more than 5 or 6 months old. I could not in good concience allow her to stand, so yes even though i was smart enough to wait for the next bus i was kind enough to stand and let her sit.

 

[Harambe]

Boy, common sense and manners. Gone by the wayside, stomped on by all those cows everyone's mooing at! LOL!

The only one I'd add (and I so agree with everyone's comments thus far):

Disney strollers are for small children, not for a rolling "home base" with backpacks, stuffed animals, etc. And they are not for big kids. If the kid has a tatoo, he is too old to be in the stroller.

 

[Gymbomom]

Thank you........GREAT POST!!!

 

[SetzKitten]

And by all means, if your belly meets my backside while standing still, be fully prepared to buy my dinner with optional cuddling afterwards.

This drives me insane. When I'm in line and I get hit from behind 2 or 3 times, I turn around and ask the person very loudly if they are trying to pick my pocket. When they so no, I say, "Well, then kindly stop touching my butt!" Makes them look a little pervy.

 

[GoofyBaseballMom26]

Wait. What about the people who just stop dead in the middle of the street when you are walking behind them?

That's me! Sorry

 

[4EverFigment]

I wish that I wasn't one of the people who got so annoyed with human failings but I am. I'll add my own to the list--

The person who makes loud observations about other people's weaknesses, intending for them to hear it and a. Feel badly, b. Fix it, c. Learn something. Like it would do any good anyways.

I am that obnoxious person some of the time--geez, idiot, get a clue, the line's end is back there...don't feed the birds, read the signs...appreciate the smoke in my face and the lit cigarette you almost burned my son with...this is the FP line, not the standby line...if you didn't make a reservation, don't complain about the long wait...but these snarky things tend to come out of me when I'm very tired and fed up with the behavior all around me after a long day of abuses. I have recognized this is a problem and am in a twelve-step program now, I promise not to be That Jerk next trip.

 

[Daydreamer]

This post is hilarious but I have to chiime in about the bus comments.

I am a father of four (DD's 13, 7 and 18 months and DS 6). Typically when we board the bus i find a corner, get the kids seated then stand while holding the folded stroller at my side. That way there is more space for those needing to sit. That being said, everyone has a decision to make when boarding the bus. If you are not willing to stand for the ride back to your resort you obviously should not board a packed bus. If you choose to get on the bus, expect to stand and take delight when someone is "courteous" enough to give up their seat, but don't go in with that expectation. It is like going to the resort and getting a free room upgrade; appreciate it when the opportunity arises but don't go in expecting it.

 

[crzyred]

on my last trip to disney in Jan. I noticed that children these days have no manners. now at 22 yrs. old and no children of my own, some of you are probably laughing but oh well. when my family and i were in MK, we were taking a little break and sitting down when this family walked past us. one of the children, couldn't have been more than 5/6 actually walked up to me and punched me. I was shocked! Now i know that I have no right to discipline someone else's child but i looked at this kid and said that wasn't very nice and the mother told me i had no right to talk to her child that way and that i was being very rude because i apparently thought i was better than she is. Maybe it is just me and my young innocense, but i guess i'm a firm believer that if you teach your children some manners and respect for other people, the world could be a better place.

 

[LucyR]

Sometimes I am clueless when I am in someone's way. I guess I don't have really good awareness of when others are right next to me in a crowd, and occasionally I realize I have been blocking someone's path and/or stopped short in front of someone (because I didn't realize they were RIGHT THERE). HOWEVER, in my defense, I always apologize profusely and feel really bad about it, and would never be upset at someone who ran into me as a result of my lack of attention.

Hello, my name is Lucy... and I'm clueless. They say the first step is admitting that you have a problem, right?

I've even stepped in front of someone taking a picture of their family. I just didn't realize... and of course I apologized. My husband gets embarrassed when I do something clueless like that. He is much more aware of his surroundings I guess. But I try not to do tings like that, and I apologize when I do. Sometimes I think we take offense too easily. Another person's honest mistake doesn't get my panties in a bunch. I just smile and say "it's okay" when they apologize and get out of my way. I know everyone's not that polite, but some people just didn't even realize they were blocking you.

 

[MsTinkerChele]

When they say No Flash Photography..it means....NO FLASH PHOTOGRAPHY. You can say it aloud a million and one times and scream it in their ears yet people keep snapping away.GRRRRRR