For crying out loud...

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We witnessed this as well in June(but I wasn't surprised it is that way everywhere). I loved the people shocked at pricing, but my favorite were all the parents mad b/c their kids were melting down(extreme heat) and were complaining they weren't leaving the park. :sad2:
 
Not so much in Disney but I have to admit that even I have gotten short with my husband or kids and probably not shown myself in the best light. You would think you could never get unhappy while you are in Disney but sometimes it happens, we are all human. We are often running from ride to ride, trying to be on time for a parade or a show, trying to get it all in. It happens. Let's just hope that this was a freak thing and that everyone is happier for the rest of your trip!!!

PS - I will never forget when I was at Sea World and the man in front of us turned around to yell at my daughter because she kicked him in the back while she was moving around (she was 3). I kept my mouth shut but was fuming!!

Fast forward many years later, another one of my daughters (then 4) had the same thing happen to her at the Stunt Show at Hollywood Studios. Let's just say I did not hold back this time. This guy paid for what the first guy had done years before lol. I said, "I will do my best to keep her still but with us packed in here like sardines, she might just kick you again so if you can't handle it, please feel free to move. He did not move and did not say another word the rest of the time - and thankfully she didn't accidentally kick him again!!
 
Back in 2004' Thanksgiving day, I had a horrific meltdown. We had just arrived that day, had huge issues getting a room at BWV....our first stay there as Dvc owners. The summer before that, I had made a quick trip down with my dd, then 11. She saw a RnRC sweatshirt she loved and I told her we would get it in Nov when we went back...I mean really...it was about a zillion degrees that day in June! Her friends mother went in late Oct and brought one home for the friend. Fast forward to that November. We walked to HS that steamy Thanksgiving afternoon. We were there with thousands of our new vest friends...hugely crowded. Went to RnRC...no sweatshirt, at least not big enough for her. The CMs were incredibly helpful and looked in back, they made some calls....nothing. As we walked out of the area my dd just snapped...started whining and crying about not having the thing she wanted, that I had told her we would get for her. She just wouldn't let up. I looked at her and said that I was done. That we had been at WDW for 4 hrs and I was ready to go home. I told her I didn't want to even walk with her. She started sobbing. I was really upset at this point, so sat down on that stone wall by the entrance to RnRC and tried to calm down. Dd kept sobbing, dh had no idea what to do. I watched dd and just said that I was done. That I had tried to everything I could and all she could do was cry and scream. Well....I'm sure the other guests were appalled by my behavior...as was I to tell you the truth. I can only blame the outburst, on both our parts, on fatigue and disappointment. We had been up since 4am, flew to WDW, had issues with our car service not making the promised grocery stop, and subsequent room issues at BWVs. It was not, humid and really crowded.
So, I have walked a mile in those shoes, so to speak. I have never reacted like that before, or since then. We have made many, many subsequent trips to WDW without the 'drama'. But I can certainly see how it happens.
 
Not so much in Disney but I have to admit that even I have gotten short with my husband or kids and probably not shown myself in the best light. You would think you could never get unhappy while you are in Disney but sometimes it happens, we are all human. We are often running from ride to ride, trying to be on time for a parade or a show, trying to get it all in. It happens. Let's just hope that this was a freak thing and that everyone is happier for the rest of your trip!!!

PS - I will never forget when I was at Sea World and the man in front of us turned around to yell at my daughter because she kicked him in the back while she was moving around (she was 3). I kept my mouth shut but was fuming!!

Fast forward many years later, another one of my daughters (then 4) had the same thing happen to her at the Stunt Show at Hollywood Studios. Let's just say I did not hold back this time. This guy paid for what the first guy had done years before lol. I said, "I will do my best to keep her still but with us packed in here like sardines, she might just kick you again so if you can't handle it, please feel free to move. He did not move and did not say another word the rest of the time - and thankfully she didn't accidentally kick him again!!


Let me see if I understand this correctly. Your child was kicking the man in front of her which is not appropreate behavior. When this person turned and complained you went off on him, and you seem proud of your behavior. How is that a correct response? My personal opinion is that you should have appologised for your child's behavior and then taken the opportunity to parent your child by explaining that kicking the person in front of her is not acceptable behavior.
 

Let me see if I understand this correctly. Your child was kicking the man in front of her which is not appropreate behavior. When this person turned and complained you went off on him, and you seem proud of your behavior. How is that a correct response? My personal opinion is that you should have appologised for your child's behavior and then taken the opportunity to parent your child by explaining that kicking the person in front of her is not acceptable behavior.

I agree. When you accidentally kick someone the correct response is to apologize.
 
Let me see if I understand this correctly. Your child was kicking the man in front of her which is not appropreate behavior. When this person turned and complained you went off on him, and you seem proud of your behavior. How is that a correct response? My personal opinion is that you should have appologised for your child's behavior and then taken the opportunity to parent your child by explaining that kicking the person in front of her is not acceptable behavior.


:thumbsup2 Chances are for someone to actually turn around and start complaining to a 3 and 4 year old it was not just one kick but continuous ones.
 
Let me see if I understand this correctly. Your child was kicking the man in front of her which is not appropreate behavior. When this person turned and complained you went off on him, and you seem proud of your behavior. How is that a correct response? My personal opinion is that you should have appologised for your child's behavior and then taken the opportunity to parent your child by explaining that kicking the person in front of her is not acceptable behavior.

Now that's just crazy talk.
 
Let me see if I understand this correctly. Your child was kicking the man in front of her which is not appropreate behavior. When this person turned and complained you went off on him, and you seem proud of your behavior. How is that a correct response? My personal opinion is that you should have appologised for your child's behavior and then taken the opportunity to parent your child by explaining that kicking the person in front of her is not acceptable behavior.

Giving her the benefit of the doubt I would be angry if someone turned around and yelled at my kid. That being said I would have said I'm sorry my kid accidentally kicked but there is no need to yell at my three year old. And honestly if they were to tell at someone it should be the parents. Like tell your kid to stop kicking me please.
 
You get a few 'types' of guest at WDW. 1. The family that has paid $5000 for this once in a lifetime vacation. They have very high expectations. They are staying at a deluxe resort, paid for the deluxe dining plan. But, sadly, they really didn't do their homework. They boomed a pkg, with a TA that really didn't understand how WDW works. So now this poor family gets there, clueless as to what they are about to experience. No wonder they're yelling at the kids. 2. Then you have the family that did their homework. They know exactly what they want to do, in each park. They have a sheet for each day listing where they will be at what time. They have potty breaks scheduled! But, they are now stressed because something happened to throw off their 'schedule'. Now they're rushing around, trying to play catch up. Both types are going to melt down, and start arguing. I wish more people would buy a guidebook and get a clue as to what is going on. I wish people would slow down and pay attention to those incredible little touches that Disney does so well. After over 35-40 trips to WDW, I still manage to find something new each time I go. You can't do it all, see it all, on one trip. So don't even try. Slow down and enjoy this time with your family for crying out loud!

This will be our 1st trip, we don't fall into either of these categories thank goodness. We are the family of 3 that spent a nice penny to stay at AOA and have the time of our lives. We booked our meals and have our fast passes ready however if something goes wrong, we won't care. If we don't see everything, we don't care. We just want to enjoy the magic as a family, I doubt we will even notice the mean people because we don't care. Leaving in 2 days!!!
 
Ya we witnessed lots and lots of rude people on our trip the middle of this month. I dont know, people are just in a hurry and all about them.
 
This is vacation, people!!

I'm at WL...have been here since Saturday. There surely are some very rude guests here. They don't appear to be "together" but they all act similarly. No patience with their children, no patience with other guests, grumbling about every little thing, etc. On 2 separate occasions, there were a couple of "gentlemen" who very rudely told my 17-year-old daughter, "You just have to get out of my way because I have to get these drinks," while she was WAITING HER TURN at Roaring Fork drink station. And the list goes on...this was only one example of rudeness we've encountered from other guests just since Saturday afternoon. Not very nice at all!

There are many others who are kind, but I have always traveled at this time of the year to avoid the hot-heads of summer. I guess all good things must come to an end. :(
I wonder just how many times these "gentlemen" had already visited the bar - drunks rarely have good manners.

My mom had not been to WDW in a couple of years and she remarked on the very first day how many domestic 'discussions' she witnessed and how short tempered parents were with thier kids, etc.
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I interpreted bookgirl's mom's remark to be an observation that this behavior had increased since the last time her mom visited. Of course with the decreasing spending power of the middle class it may simply be that people are more stressed these days and that shows up in couples snapping at each other and parents snapping at their kids more than earlier times.
I do see an increase in bad parenting as well, a sort of 'my little darling can do no wrong' attitude, not sure it's limited to Disney but at Disney you can see more of it than other places as there's lots of parents and lots of kids.
There's also the whole cultural thing, some regions are just more laid back than others, some families are naturally loud or caustic whereas others wouldn't dream of raising their voices or having a spat in public. Doesn't mean the quiet ones are having a better time, they just are more restrained. In a place like Disney you see it all.
 
Let me see if I understand this correctly. Your child was kicking the man in front of her which is not appropreate behavior. When this person turned and complained you went off on him, and you seem proud of your behavior. How is that a correct response? My personal opinion is that you should have appologised for your child's behavior and then taken the opportunity to parent your child by explaining that kicking the person in front of her is not acceptable behavior.



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I appreciate the laugh and you can talk to me when you have children/grandchildren of your own. I have been to many events in my lifetime where I have been kicked, I have had to listen to babies crying, I have been hit, I have had to listen to toddlers pitch a fit, etc., etc., etc. I would NEVER and I mean NEVER speak rudely to a child or a parent or even people standing near me about said child or parent. This kind of stuff happens is my point and if you are the type of person who cannot handle things like this, you should maybe choose to stay home :)

I choose to look at the world a little differently and accept the fact that we are all imperfect...

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:rotfl2: I appreciate the laugh and you can talk to me when you have children/grandchildren of your own. I have been to many events in my lifetime where I have been kicked, I have had to listen to babies crying, I have been hit, I have had to listen to toddlers pitch a fit, etc., etc., etc. I would NEVER and I mean NEVER speak rudely to a child or a parent or even people standing near me about said child or parent. This kind of stuff happens is my point and if you are the type of person who cannot handle things like this, you should maybe choose to stay home :) I choose to look at the world a little differently and accept the fact that we are all imperfect... :wave2:

I agree with you completely but not telling your child that it was wrong was just showing your child that it was right. Believe it or not your child can do wrong. And it's parents like you who give your children the I am great and can do no wrong attitude. And I do have children, they get disciplined.
 
Looks like my poor state gets the brunt of the jokes again. :rolleyes2

Oh heck!!! I thought my state had the stereotype joke crown. You know--we're all barefoot, uneducated with poor dental hygiene:crazy2:

Don't sweat it, sweetnjmon! Anyone who has visited your state knows it not all "Real Wives of NJ" or "Jersey Shore".:cutie:
 
I agree with you completely but not telling your child that it was wrong was just showing your child that it was right. Believe it or not your child can do wrong. And it's parents like you who give your children the I am great and can do no wrong attitude. And I do have children, they get disciplined.

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I agree with you completely but not telling your child that it was wrong was just showing your child that it was right. Believe it or not your child can do wrong. And it's parents like you who give your children the I am great and can do no wrong attitude. And I do have children, they get disciplined.

I agree.

I understand kids wiggle and sometimes people around them get hit, it's ok to just roll with it up to a certain point. When it's a continuous thing, the behavior should be corrected.

I have always told my children to keep their hands and feet to themselves :) I don't appreciate getting kicked over and over again, so I make sure my kids don't do it. It's a good thing to tell your child to behave. I wouldn't appreciate someone else telling my kids to behave.
 
:rotfl2: I appreciate the laugh and you can talk to me when you have children/grandchildren of your own. I have been to many events in my lifetime where I have been kicked, I have had to listen to babies crying, I have been hit, I have had to listen to toddlers pitch a fit, etc., etc., etc. I would NEVER and I mean NEVER speak rudely to a child or a parent or even people standing near me about said child or parent. This kind of stuff happens is my point and if you are the type of person who cannot handle things like this, you should maybe choose to stay home :) I choose to look at the world a little differently and accept the fact that we are all imperfect... :wave2:

Well, I have kids and if one of them kicked someone the first thing out of my mouth would have been an apology. The second would have been to tell my child to stop kicking her feet and to be careful.

Being packed in a crowd is no excuse for not having manners. A quick apology could have easily diffused the situation before it even got to the point of yelling.
 
PS - I will never forget when I was at Sea World and the man in front of us turned around to yell at my daughter because she kicked him in the back while she was moving around (she was 3). I kept my mouth shut but was fuming!!

Fast forward many years later, another one of my daughters (then 4) had the same thing happen to her at the Stunt Show at Hollywood Studios. Let's just say I did not hold back this time. This guy paid for what the first guy had done years before lol. I said, "I will do my best to keep her still but with us packed in here like sardines, she might just kick you again so if you can't handle it, please feel free to move. He did not move and did not say another word the rest of the time - and thankfully she didn't accidentally kick him again!!

I get that you were upset, but honestly, the person who was in the wrong her was you. If my kid was kicking because she could not stay still, I think my child should be the one to leave, not the guy she kicked. When I took my children into situations that they were clearly not comfortable in I felt that the error was my own and we left. I did not think those people around me should pay the price of dealing with kicks in the back because my child was crowded.

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I appreciate the laugh and you can talk to me when you have children/grandchildren of your own. I have been to many events in my lifetime where I have been kicked, I have had to listen to babies crying, I have been hit, I have had to listen to toddlers pitch a fit, etc., etc., etc. I would NEVER and I mean NEVER speak rudely to a child or a parent or even people standing near me about said child or parent. This kind of stuff happens is my point and if you are the type of person who cannot handle things like this, you should maybe choose to stay home :)

I choose to look at the world a little differently and accept the fact that we are all imperfect...

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I am not chucking at your expense. I honestly do not understand why you think that others should be deal with your child. I have three adult children, have taken my nieces and nephews to many events, haul my DGD and my Princesses to shows and if they felt the need to squirm or kick, I would address them, not their neighbors. To be fair, I do not take out my anger on kids, and think that the guy should have talked to you, but if your child was kicking anyone, you should have stopped that action before someone had to ask you. It is my pinion that your behavior was out of line because you felt entitled to be in a place that your child was not equipped to handle, for whatever reason. The person who should have left the area was you, not the man your kid was kicking.
 
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I appreciate the laugh and you can talk to me when you have children/grandchildren of your own. I have been to many events in my lifetime where I have been kicked, I have had to listen to babies crying, I have been hit, I have had to listen to toddlers pitch a fit, etc., etc., etc. I would NEVER and I mean NEVER speak rudely to a child or a parent or even people standing near me about said child or parent. This kind of stuff happens is my point and if you are the type of person who cannot handle things like this, you should maybe choose to stay home :)

I choose to look at the world a little differently and accept the fact that we are all imperfect...

:wave2:

It's all about how the person approaches the situation. If you tell me nicely of course I'll apologize for my kid. If you come acting like a bonafide idiot then expect my words in return.

A few years ago I was at Disney on Ice with a friend and his two DD's. I had my DD. The kids were excited, standing, talking amongst eachother, laughing, cheering, excited. We were in the 4th row. All of a sudden the man in front of us turns around during a break and YELLS at my friend's DD. Tell her "Can you be quiet you are yelling in my ear?"

He was WAY out of line. My friend was stunned and told the guy to not speak to his daughter like that and if he had a problem to tell him. The man just kept yelling saying his DD can't tolerate the yelling. Ummm it's Disney on Ice. It's LOUD in here. His wife and DD kept telling him to be quiet and they had their heads down. His wife kept nudging him.

Finally security came over and tried to move the man but he started going crazy saying he paid for the seats he wasn't moving. Security asked us if we wanted to move so we said ok. We got front row seats and the princesses came over and interacted with the girls in between sets. And he got to watch the whole thing.
 
Let me see if I understand this correctly. Your child was kicking the man in front of her which is not appropreate behavior. When this person turned and complained you went off on him, and you seem proud of your behavior. How is that a correct response? My personal opinion is that you should have appologised for your child's behavior and then taken the opportunity to parent your child by explaining that kicking the person in front of her is not acceptable behavior.

No kidding! If it happened just once you totally apologize but if it was happening over and over you don't make excuses you stop the BEHAVIOR!

How rude!
 
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