Flying Regional Jets???

[sam_gordon]

If the tag gets ripped off then it must be treated as checked baggage which means you won't be getting it back until you reach your final destination at baggage claim.

If the tag gets ripped off, how does the airline know what the final destination is?

 

[spiders]

If the tag gets ripped off, how does the airline know what the final destination is?

You’ll still be standing there waiting for your bag and the more sturdy ID tag is likely still there.

 

[JM23457]

You have the choice? I pass them, they pass me, can't exactly avoid them.

Absolutely, you can avoid driving next to, in front of or behind them for significant amounts of time, by gently speeding up or slowing down to avoid them. Drivers ed instructors here advise people to do that. The worst local highway accidents typically involve semis: they're huge, the drivers often don't take enough breaks, etc. My city is on an interstate that connects Mexico to the U.S., and there is a lot of freight traffic.

Avoiding the interstate unless that is absolutely the only road I can take is another way to stay safer on the road. That's common in my city, too. There are other highways and toll roads without the semis. The interstate is a nightmare here.

 

[sam_gordon]

You’ll still be standing there waiting for your bag and the more sturdy ID tag is likely still there.

Still doesn't make sense... if you're standing there waiting for a bag and they have a bag with your ID on it, you're saying they'll put a normal luggage tag on it so you get it at your final destination and not just hand you the bag?

 

[sam_gordon]

Absolutely, you can avoid driving next to, in front of or behind them for significant amounts of time, by gently speeding up or slowing down to avoid them. Drivers ed instructors here advise people to do that. The worst local highway accidents typically involve semis: they're huge, the drivers often don't take enough breaks, etc. My city is on an interstate that connects Mexico to the U.S., and there is a lot of freight traffic.

Avoiding the interstate unless that is absolutely the only road I can take is another way to stay safer on the road. That's common in my city, too. There are other highways and toll roads without the semis. The interstate is a nightmare here.

See, in my mind, there's a difference between "avoiding driving next to them" and "avoid driving next to them for significant amounts of time". There are times you can't avoid them. For that matter, you don't know if the guy (or gal) driving the car next to you just got their license last week, has brake problems, bald tires, or is DUI. Be cautious? Sure. But if you worry about every possible thing that can happen, you'd never leave your home.

 

[JM23457]

But if you worry about every possible thing that can happen, you'd never leave your home.

And that's why I'm a huge advocate of reopening. Life is to be lived.

I take precautions, just like avoiding semis on the highway as much as I can. But I'm not going to cower in my home.

 

[spiders]

Still doesn't make sense... if you're standing there waiting for a bag and they have a bag with your ID on it, you're saying they'll put a normal luggage tag on it so you get it at your final destination and not just hand you the bag?

If the valet tag is missing then you’re not getting it back. There are things you can have in your checked baggage that you can’t have in a carry on bag. If the tag is missing then it’s not going to be given back to you and must be treated as if it were checked.

 

[zakdavid]

If you’re talking comfort, than I will modify my original post.
If you’re talking safety, airplane wise, I stand by my original post.
Pilot experience is another matter, although if operating, and adhering to, part 121 standards you will have ZERO issues.

Source: Me. 30 year airline pilot

Yup. You have two ATP rated pilots in the seats of either aircraft. Safety wise it's the same

 

[sam_gordon]

If the valet tag is missing then you’re not getting it back. There are things you can have in your checked baggage that you can’t have in a carry on bag. If the tag is missing then it’s not going to be given back to you and must be treated as if it were checked.

And again I ask... there is now a bag that has NO tag on it. MAYBE an ID tag. So how do they know what connecting flight to put it on, OR send it to baggage claim? Send it to "lost luggage"? That I can understand. But the airline has no clue who the bag belongs to and therefore no idea how to get it to the "final destination".

 

[spiders]

And again I ask... there is now a bag that has NO tag on it. MAYBE an ID tag. So how do they know what connecting flight to put it on, OR send it to baggage claim? Send it to "lost luggage"? That I can understand. But the airline has no clue who the bag belongs to and therefore no idea how to get it to the "final destination".

And again, as I stated before, you’re probably still standing at the jetway waiting for it so you can identify it yourself (without physically giving it back to you) or your ID tag will still be attached to the bag and they can find out where you’re going.

 

[sam_gordon]

And again, as I stated before, you’re probably still standing at the jetway waiting for it so you can identify it yourself (without physically giving it back to you) or your ID tag will still be attached to the bag and they can find out where you’re going.

So they're going to believe you when you say it's your bag, but they won't give it back to you? OK.

 

[spiders]

So they're going to believe you when you say it's your bag, but they won't give it back to you? OK.

Because again, you can have things in a checked bag that you cannot have in a carry on bag which is why you will not be allowed to have it in the sterile area again unless you reclaim it at baggage claim and re-enter with it through security.

 

[SirDuff]

Because again, you can have things in a checked bag that you cannot have in a carry on bag which is why you will not be allowed to have it in the sterile area again unless you reclaim it at baggage claim and re-enter with it through security.

Let’s look at what the bag handlers know and what they don’t know.

- They KNOW that the baggage came from the “gate check” compartment, so they know that it was a valid carry on bag
- They DON’T KNOW who the bag belongs to because it lost it‘s airline tag

Why would they retag the bag as yours (when they don’t know that it is yours, other than your non-official ID) but not give it to you as carry-on when they know it is valid carry-on?

What you are saying just doesn’t make any sense.

 

[spiders]

Let’s look at what the bag handlers know and what they don’t know.

- They KNOW that the baggage came from the “gate check” compartment, so they know that it was a valid carry on bag
- They DON’T KNOW who the bag belongs to because it lost it‘s airline tag

Why would they retag the bag as yours (when they don’t know that it is yours, other than your non-official ID) but not give it to you as carry-on when they know it is valid carry-on?

What you are saying just doesn’t make any sense.

First, a CRJ200 & ERJ145 do not have a "gate check" compartment -- everything is loaded in the back. Second, it doesn't matter if it's in the front or the back. If you don't believe me then fine but that's the way it is. You can have items in a checked bag that would be prohibited in a carry on. When you are unable to verify what type of bag it is then it gets treated as the most restrictive just like the most restrictive measures would be applied in any other secured area.

 

[sam_gordon]

When you are unable to verify what type of bag it is then it gets treated as the most restrictive just like the most restrictive measures would be applied in any other secured area.

If they can't verify what kind of bag it is, why would they even bring it back to the gateway with the other carry on bags?

I'm sure they don't have a gate check compartment for bags, but aren't they all loaded in a certain area (and together) at least? Don't they keep a count somewhere of how many gate check bags there are? Or do they just rely on seeing the tags?

 

[SirDuff]

First, a CRJ200 & ERJ145 do not have a "gate check" compartment -- everything is loaded in the back. Second, it doesn't matter if it's in the front or the back. If you don't believe me then fine but that's the way it is. You can have a gun in your checked bag. You cannot have a gun in a carry on. When you are unable to verify what type of bag it is then it gets treated as the most restrictive just like the most restrictive measures would be applied in any other secured area.

If they didn’t know it was gate checked, why did they bring it out with the gate check bags?

 

[spiders]

Okay, listen...guys, if you don't want to believe me then fine. But seriously, remove your passports or anything else that you need to be able to get to.

 

[jennyq87]

Small....50 seats, but for one hour. I guess I am a little concerned about safety seeing it is winter.

If you are a nervous flier (like myself), regional jets can be anxiety inducing . I feel quite claustrophobic and I feel more turbulence. I’ve had a handful of rough flights on them. It’s not my ideal situation and I avoid them when possible. Having said that - both of those are issues in my head. It’s just as safe as an Airbus.

 

[sam_gordon]

Okay, listen...guys, if you don't want to believe me then fine. But seriously, remove your passports or anything else that you need to be able to get to.

If that's the lesson you're trying to impart, why didn't you say so? I don't think anyone would disagree with that.

For that matter, gate checked "valet" bags (that you would expect to get back at your next gate) could be left on the ground and not loaded on the plane. That's a more likely scenario (and just as valid a lesson for "keep anything you need to get your hands on"). Or an airline worker could rifle through your bags for valuables. Never leave anything not easily replaced out of your sight while travelling)

Also, why should we believe you? Have you had this happen to you (valet tag come off the bag and they won't return the bag to you)? Do you work for an airline or airport?

 

[Cattrip]

And again I ask... there is now a bag that has NO tag on it. MAYBE an ID tag. So how do they know what connecting flight to put it on, OR send it to baggage claim? Send it to "lost luggage"? That I can understand. But the airline has no clue who the bag belongs to and therefore no idea how to get it to the "final destination".

I have gate checked kids items(stroller etc.) it is left at the front of the plane entrance and upon landing is set right at the same spot. ..usually a bit worse for wear lol I assume this is what may happen to our carryon bags should there not be enough room.