Florida drivers are horrible!!

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Yeah - I've always been a little "timid" about getting creamed by an 18-wheeler flying down the road at 80+ mph.. It's a little "quirk" I have to work on..:rotfl:

I think I'll stick with "timid" and alive - rather than "daring" and dead..;)

There's nothing "daring" about merging at a high speed. In drivers eds, when they were teaching us how to merge, they specifically told us that we need to accelerate to where we match the flow of traffic to safely and quickly merge. If you go too fast you may run out of room, but if you go to slow you're never going to be let in and you create a danger.

I think trying to merge onto a busy highway from a complete dead stop is a death wish if you ask me. I have never had to stop on an on ramp, even during rush hour. Sure I've had to slow down but never come to a complete stop!
 
Thank you to those with nice replies. My DH said I didn't explain the situation good here so I will try again. I was at still close to the intersection where I turned onto the on ramp but was still a ways away from the actual highway. 3 lanes merge into 1 lane and then that lane leads to the hwy. I was at the point where we were supposed to be merging into that one final lane. It WAS my turn which is why I checked my blind spot. How do you suggest I keep my eyes on the car in front of me while hoping nobody is in my blind spot since I'm not allowed to check that. Even the state trooper and all the paramedics were reassuring me that it was an accident and it really wasn't my fault but they had no choice but to give me a ticket. Nobody was hurt and yes I AM thankful for that. Just for the record, I am 28 and have been driving since I was 16 and this is my first accident. I NEVER text on my phone when driving and am a good driver.
 
Actually I had both of my hands on the wheel and my cell phone was in my closed purse. I came from Texas and never once did I ever have to stop to get on the highway!!!!! We know how to merge there. In FL there are a lot of retired "old" people who really can't drive. These are the people that go 30mph on the highway!!! Maybe everyone here should not judge since ya'll were not there!

Hmmm... see what I mean about assumptions? I'm retired and in my sixties and I do not drive 30mph on the highway. I lived most of my first 60 years in New York so I am not a timid driver. Perhaps the lesson to be learned here is to expect the unexpected and be prepared to stop... you know... just in case one of us stupid old retired people decide to stop ahead of you.
 

Ok. I'm sorry that I called them stupid old people but a lot of people here are elderly and cause a lot of accidents. The people that did the stop thing that caused this accident were elderly.
 
There's nothing "daring" about merging at a high speed. In drivers eds, when they were teaching us how to merge, they specifically told us that we need to accelerate to where we match the flow of traffic to safely and quickly merge. If you go too fast you may run out of room, but if you go to slow you're never going to be let in and you create a danger.

I think trying to merge onto a busy highway from a complete dead stop is a death wish if you ask me. I have never had to stop on an on ramp, even during rush hour. Sure I've had to slow down but never come to a complete stop!
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There's an area near my old home - that is referred to as "Suicide Circle".. You are merging just beyond a very, very sharp curve - 3 lanes of traffic going in one direction - at 55 mph (if they are driving the speed limit).. If you don't come to a stop before merging onto that highway there's a very, very good chance you're going to get creamed (thus the name).. The 3 lanes of traffic literally can be there in the blink of an eye.. I was rear-ended there a number of years ago.. If I hadn't stopped, I would (not "could") have been hit by at least 3 cars - all going a minimum of 55 mph.. Not all "merging" situations (or locations) are the same.. Fortunatley I wasn't seriously hurt.. Had I not stopped, I probably would have been dead..

Having said that, a driver still has the responsibility to be in control of their vehicle at all times.. The car in front of the OP could have stalled - rather than stopped.. OP would still be responsible..
 
You got me all wrong... I drive around Sarasota, Siesta Key, Longboat Key.. all day for my job. I was meaning you bringing all of us "Floridians" into the same "old people" we all B*#*# about!!!
 
You got me all wrong... I drive around Sarasota, Siesta Key, Longboat Key.. all day for my job. I was meaning you bringing all of us "Floridians" into the same "old people" we all B*#*# about!!!

I was actually getting on 75 at University Parkway. I do a lot of driving in Sarasota as I volunteer at Mote and had just attended a volunteer orientation at Sarasota Jungles. Funny that this is the general area that I had my accident.:rolleyes1
 
Thank you to those with nice replies. My DH said I didn't explain the situation good here so I will try again. I was at still close to the intersection where I turned onto the on ramp but was still a ways away from the actual highway. 3 lanes merge into 1 lane and then that lane leads to the hwy. I was at the point where we were supposed to be merging into that one final lane. It WAS my turn which is why I checked my blind spot. How do you suggest I keep my eyes on the car in front of me while hoping nobody is in my blind spot since I'm not allowed to check that. Even the state trooper and all the paramedics were reassuring me that it was an accident and it really wasn't my fault but they had no choice but to give me a ticket. Nobody was hurt and yes I AM thankful for that. Just for the record, I am 28 and have been driving since I was 16 and this is my first accident. I NEVER text on my phone when driving and am a good driver.

They had no choice but to give YOU the ticket because it was YOUR fault. The law states that a person must be in control of their vehicle at all times. You were not in control of your vehicle; hence the ticket. I have been involved in an accident that was not my fault. I did not receive a ticket. The police aren't going to ticket you if you were not at fault.

I drive in FL every day of the week and I am not old. I am from Detroit. I will take the elderly in FL any day of the week over any Detroit expressway.

The best advice my parents gave me when I started driving long ago was to always be aware of the other people on the road. You know what you are doing. You don't know what someone else is doing. Stay a safe distance away from the vehicle in front of you so that YOU won't hit them if they stop suddenly. Sorry, but this was clearly your fault and the ticket is the proof. You can blame the "stupid, old people" all you want but you walked away with the ticket.
 
sorry to hear of the problems. If you hang back three car lengths to leave a safe driving distance, everyone cuts in front of you. taking away that safe zone, and beating you to the finish line.

In illinois, you can not get in the left lane of any expressway without going at least 80mph. and be ready for that lane to come to a full stop when someone upfront makes a stupid move.

Mikeeee
 
Not all "old" people are bad drivers in Florida. I have been stuck behind many a young one that too busy yakking on the darn cell phone to drive properly. Anytime you merge onto a highway, there is always a minute chance that you may have to come to a screeching halt due to oncoming traffic.

I agree. When I lived in Orlando, I had to drive between Disney and my apartment every day (not to mention chauferring my friends around Orlando as I was one of few with a car.) This included taking the highway from Disney to LBV, which has lots of those lanes that are entrance and exit with little room to get on or off. Merging there is a nightmare.

By far it was the young idiots on the highways and roadways causing problems, not the old drivers. I saw a lot of extremely aggressive (not defensive) driving. People who were speeding, tailgating, weaving in and out, etc. It seemed like hit and runs were on the news nightly. I had a million close calls when I lived there, and by far it was always young people. I can't recall ever having a problem with an elderly driver. It seemed the biggest problem was that so many people are not from that area so everybody was driving according to the customs from whatever region they were from and not adjusting to the area.
 
I'm curious to know what the ticket was for.
 
]I was actually getting on 75 at University Parkway. I do a lot of driving in Sarasota as I volunteer at Mote and had just attended a volunteer orientation at Sarasota Jungles. Funny that this is the general area that I had my accident.:rolleyes1[/quote]

Well, not knowing what your meaning there, I was in your thread a few months ago about Ginger, who you were involved with the rescue!!! Sorry wasn't me in the accident. I LIVE HERE!!! I know the DUMB**** that slow before entering I-75 at all of our on ramps.
 
Sorry to hear of your accident. I'm glad you're okay.

As to your generalization about bad Florida drivers - especially old people - you have a lot of nerve. I have been driving in Florida for 33 years since I first got my license at age 16. It has been my experience in all that time, that most of the bad drivers I have encountered are from another state. Sudden stops, right turn signal - left turn, backing up on the highway/intersection because of a missed turn, etc. While most of the "older" drivers tend to drive slower than the traffic flow, they are generally not making horrible driving decisions.

There's always several factors involved in any traffic accident, I just don't think it's fair to blame old people for your misfortune.
 
On a recent trip to WDW (last week) I had to admit that my wife was right. All the way to WDW I kept saying SPEED UP! Drive faster! I want to get there already!
The general argument was about people squeezing in between cars that were too close together. OK Here's the scenario... Your in the fast lane. Up ahead in the slow lane is a guy who is going REALLY slow. You have these IDIOTS who are determined to go around you at ANY cost. Who cares that YOU are going 20 miles above the speed limit already?:confused3:mad: THEY want to go faster than that and THEY will do ANYTHING to get around you. I would always tell my wife when those drivers come speeding up in the left lane to speed up close to the driver in front of you so they cant squeeze in there. After all, we are all in a hurry, right? We ARE in the fast lane, and we WERE there first. Right?
WRONG.
She was right. Those idiots WILL get around you. Even if it means squeezing in with only inches between them and you. Even if it means causing a wreck. THEY are driving unsafe, and unfortunately, there are a LOT of those idiots on the highways. The best thing to do is to stay a safe distance... PERIOD. You never know what is going on up ahead. It's NEVER EVER EVER safe to tailgate. Period. She was right. (It happens more than I like to admit.;))

I'm not directing this towards the OP per say; just towards everyone in general. (Especially the idiots who are guilty.) The bottom line is that nothing/no one/nowhere you are in a hurry to do, see, get to is worth losing a life or totaling a car over.:thumbsup2
 
[31869748]Sorry to hear of your accident. I'm glad you're okay.

As to your generalization about bad Florida drivers - especially old people - you have a lot of nerve. I have been driving in Florida for 33 years since I first got my license at age 16. It has been my experience in all that time, that most of the bad drivers I have encountered are from another state. Sudden stops, right turn signal - left turn, backing up on the highway/intersection because of a missed turn, etc. While most of the "older" drivers tend to drive slower than the traffic flow, they are generally not making horrible driving decisions.

There's always several factors involved in any traffic accident, I just don't think it's fair to blame old people for your misfortune.[/quote]

You are exactly RIGHT!!!!! "I'm in the right lane, and I need to turn right 4 lanes over!!! I'm just gona move over without even a blinker!!!".
 
Miami-Dade county has installed ramp lights at several I-95 entrances to lessen traffic congestion. One of the concerns is the probability of rear-end collisions. http://miami-info.com/news/2009/02/02/ramp-lights-will-control-car-flow-onto-i-95-in-miami-dade/

Ramp lights will control car flow onto I-95 in Miami-Dade
The days of freely entering some of the busiest sections of Interstate 95 in Miami-Dade County are coming to an end. Starting Wednesday, motorists must wait for a green light at an entrance ramp to merge in.

It’s all part of a master plan to manage congestion on one of Florida’s busiest expressways.


Commuters will encounter traffic signals at eight northbound I-95 on-ramps between Northwest 62nd Street and the Golden Glades interchange during the afternoon rush hours.

But like the new northbound variably priced toll lanes that kicked off in December, enforcement of the on-ramp signals is certain to launch controversy and confusion for South Florida’s notoriously short-tempered drivers.

”It’s going to be a learning curve,” said Lt. Pat Santangelo, a spokesman for the Florida Highway Patrol — which plans to post a trooper at every affected ramp to make sure drivers obey the signal.

It will be a momentous shift for South Florida commuters, long accustomed to zipping onto I-95 without much thought.

Drivers will be required to stop on the ramp and wait for the light to turn from red to green — just like at an intersection.

Violators who run the ramp signal may face penalties, including a ticket for $160 and three points on their license.

Police are urging drivers to pay extra attention as they enter I-95. Some drivers may not stop and others, unaccustomed to red lights on an interstate ramp, may slam into those who obey the signal.

Santangelo said FHP hopes drivers will adjust.

”We are hoping that the same thing happens as happened with I-95 express lanes — that after the initial chaos — people understood what they were for and the confusion diminished,” Santangelo said.

CONFUSION LIKELY

Some South Florida commuters are ready for the change, and are bracing for confusion with a system that has become common in other parts of the country.

”The potential for rear-end collisions is huge,” said Andre Pierre, an immigration attorney and North Miami mayoral candidate who frequently drives on northbound I-95. “I went to look at one of the signals on the 62nd Street ramp the other day, and I realized that the main problem is that some drivers may not stop and rear-end others.”

By regulating when vehicles enter the highway, traffic managers say driving on the busy stretch will be faster, more comfortable and safer.

Congestion occurs when the number of vehicles on a road exceeds its capacity and when more vehicles entering the highway through on-ramps disrupt the flow of traffic already inching along.

Platoons of vehicles often speed onto the highway, merging at will and cutting off vehicles already on the expressway. These vehicles then suddenly stop, slow down or attempt to block incoming vehicles in a dangerous struggle to get ahead in congested lanes.

Traffic managers often cite unregulated merging as a chief source of congestion, crashes and road rage. Under the new system, traffic managers hope to at least ease the merging madness.

”Ramp signaling will make it a better driving experience when you are not playing chicken with 20 cars entering the freeway at the same time,” said Rory Santana, Florida Department of Transportation manager for Intelligent Transportation Systems in Miami.

Santana, who oversees the ramp signaling system, said that, in general, local drivers will not have to wait long to enter I-95 — anywhere from a seconds to a few minutes.

As the system is currently configured, the light will alternate between red and green, allowing one or two vehicles at a time onto the expressway.

If traffic is light, said Santana, the red will cycle into green more frequently than when traffic grows heavier. Santana said vehicles waiting at the ramp will receive a green signal every four to 15 seconds.

The wait, he said, will be longer, ”perhaps a couple of minutes,” for vehicles waiting farther back in the line, “not unlike a delay at any other normal signalized intersection.”

MINIMIZING BACKUPS

Santana said traffic managers will try to ”minimize” possible ramp backups spilling onto surrounding roads or neighborhoods.

Sensors under the ramps and expressway lanes, along with surveillance cameras, will determine the wait for drivers and speed up entries if ramp backups grow beyond tolerable levels, Santana said.

Elsewhere in the country, ramp waits in some cases in the past have been estimated at 20 minutes for the last vehicle in the queue.

For now, Santana said, the plan calls for installing ramp signals only along I-95 in Miami-Dade — eventually regulating vehicle entries along northbound and southbound ramps to Ives Dairy Road.

In Minnesota, an initially unpopular ramp signaling program was briefly shut down. However, when that was done, expressway speeds decreased by 26 percent. Once the signals were reinstated, highway speeds picked up again.
 
Maybe some of those folks who stop on the ramps are retirees from PA. When I first moved here, I couldn't understand why so many people stop, but it turns out that many of the on-ramps to the older highways were so short that there was no way to merge properly. There are several ramps that actually have stop signs instead of yield signs. I have noticed the PA turnpike is fixing the problem by lengthening the merge area.

You will find bad drivers in any state, and of every age!
 
OMG people! The OP had a bad day and was venting; Florida is notorious for having a lot of senior citizen drivers causing accidents. On our last trip, we were driving on one of the interstates and witnessed one. An elderly women slammed on their brakes to point out the mall off the expressway to her passenger. The next two drivers behind her rear ended the car. Luckily traffic was pretty heavy and everyone was driving about 45 mph.

I don't know how you PA disers manage to merge on the expressways! There are always long lines in the merge lanes and the traffic never stops driving 70 mph! :eek: I would be petrified! (Luckily I've never had to get off and back on!)
 
Ok. I'm sorry that I called them stupid old people but a lot of people here are elderly and cause a lot of accidents. The people that did the stop thing that caused this accident were elderly.

Actually, most of the reports of accidents I hear about here are those caused by young people driving fast and reckless.

OP, I'm sorry this happened to you. I'm sure you are upset. The point I think people are trying to get across is that you are generalizing. Not all old people are bad drivers. Not all young people are good drivers. I drive all the time in Florida. There are plenty of bad drivers, but they sure aren't all old. I wonder who you consider to be old. Being in your twenties, just about everyone could be considered old.
 


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