Fixed weeks released with each declaration?

[STA]

And CCV continues that "tradition" of excluding guaranteed weeks from any incentives. It just turned out that the coveted early December studio weeks ended up less than the 150 pts mark at which the incentives began so either way no discount. I think that the impression of CCV studios being less available than the "plentiful" studios at PVB coupled with lessons learned from the VGF may also be a driver for demand.

I've also been told by my guide that while 35% is the stated maximum that they do not exceed 25% for a given week, though this may not be applicable to view categories but rather room types.

 

[HookdonWDW]

And CCV continues that "tradition" of excluding guaranteed weeks from any incentives. It just turned out that the coveted early December studio weeks ended up less than the 150 pts mark at which the incentives began so either way no discount. I think that the impression of CCV studios being less available than the "plentiful" studios at PVB coupled with lessons learned from the VGF may also be a driver for demand.

I've also been told by my guide that while 35% is the stated maximum that they do not exceed 25% for a given week, though this may not be applicable to view categories but rather room types.

Yeah, I asked if I would get the incentive I purchased 32 extra points. Got the "fixed weeks excluded" speech. Interesting about the 25%. May explain 3 weeks offered v. 4.

 

[ziravan]

I'm not sure what my contract states because I haven't received it yet, but I did get the confirmation for my '17 reservation this afternoon. Points used were December 2017, so I still have my bonus 2016 points.

And you should use your 2016 points as soon as the booking date opens up for CCV owners and book your week. Once booked on "regular" points, you can release your 2017 fix and save the 10% points.

Do this every year until CCV sells out. The problems with booking studios at VGF didn't materialize until sell out. DVD will keep more units released than points sold while selling so you should be able to book at 11 months and release your guarantee to save the extra points. At least until CCV sells out.

 

[miTnosnhoJ]

The last time I did an summary of VGF sales was in January 2015: A look at Guaranteed Week sales for the Grand Floridian. About 28 additional deeds have been sold since then, but the general mix has stayed about the same.

When we do the monthly sales article I'll mention if there are any Guaranteed Week sales. Lately, though, there have been very few Guaranteed week deed sold so I haven't mentioned them.

This is great info. Do you know if Disney has sold any Fixed Weeks after VGF reached sell-out? In other words, have they sold any fixed weeks from foreclosed or ROFRed points?

 

[HookdonWDW]

And you should use your 2016 points as soon as the booking date opens up for CCV owners and book your week. Once booked on "regular" points, you can release your 2017 fix and save the 10% points.

Do this every year until CCV sells out. The problems with booking studios at VGF didn't materialize until sell out. DVD will keep more units released than points sold while selling so you should be able to book at 11 months and release your guarantee to save the extra points. At least until CCV sells out.

That's exactly my plan. I'm going to call tomorrow to see if it's possible, and waitlist if it isn't. Great info. I thought it might work for this year, but didn't know about the chances for future bookings.

 

[ziravan]

That's exactly my plan. I'm going to call tomorrow to see if it's possible, and waitlist if it isn't. Great info. I thought it might work for this year, but didn't know about the chances for future bookings.

Make sure when you release the 2017 points that they remain bankable or bank them on the spot if you're saving them for same time 2018.

 

[BWV Dreamin]

@BWV Dreamin, it was the post you refer to that led me to start this thread. But @wdrl's answer reassures me that more week 49 studio fixed weeks will become available when DVD declares more units into the condominium (thus making them available to be sold).

I think the (probably) 4 weeks that have been sold went to current DVC owners who are well aware of the competition for early December weeks and want to be sure they can stay at CCV that week when they want to. I'm not convinced that the remaining fixed weeks will go quite as fast - but I agree that someone who wants one shouldn't dilly-dally!

No guarantee that additional future fixed weeks will go to week #49. I would not be rolling the dice right now waiting. If there is a December week available that fits your needs I would move on it. JMHO.

 

[wdrl]

This is great info. Do you know if Disney has sold any Fixed Weeks after VGF reached sell-out? In other words, have they sold any fixed weeks from foreclosed or ROFRed points?

Disney shifted its marketing off of VGF in April 2015, which meant that it was considered to be "sold out." Since then, only six more Fixed Week VGF deeds were recorded, the last one being in July 2015.

By my estimation, Disney has about 9,600 points it can still sell for VGF. That number does not include deeds that have been sold but not yet recorded, or points that Disney has tied up in pending cash reservations, so its difficult to know exactly how many points Disney could sell today. But there is nothing to prevent it from selling a Fixed Week if it wanted to other than the availability of dates.

 

[DenLo]

All of the studios at the Polynesian Villas & Bungalows are dedicated, but CCV is the first to have a mix of dedicated studios and lock-off studios.

When counting the maximum number of accommodation types that can be sold as Fixed Week deeds for each week, Disney counts both dedicated and lock-off villas. CCV will have 42 dedicated studios and 36 lock-off studios. Thus, the 35% cap on Fixed Week deeds will be based on 78 studios.

I understand what you are saying that the PVB studios are stand alone units, but I and many others think a dedicated studio would be one that does not connect to any other room. So to me, at PVB that would be mean only a couple of studios per longhouse would fit that description. I think that is where the confusion lies.

It is a shame that Dedicated is not one of the definitions they provide in the POS.

But back to the alleged sold out studios for week 49, none of the deeds have been filed with Orange County for CCV so we cannot prove how many have been sold. I am really getting anxious that DVC not filed any of the CCV deeds.

 

[HookdonWDW]

I understand what you are saying that the PVB studios are stand alone units, but I and many others think a dedicated studio would be one that does not connect to any other room. So to me, at PVB that would be mean only a couple of studios per longhouse would fit that description. I think that is where the confusion lies.

It is a shame that Dedicated is not one of the definitions they provide in the POS.

But back to the alleged sold out studios for week 49, none of the deeds have been filed with Orange County for CCV so we cannot prove how many have been sold. I am really getting anxious that DVC not filed any of the CCV deeds.

This is standard for a new property the first set of new deeds aren't set to close until May I believe (my contract arrived, but it's at home, so I can't see it right now). If I recall correctly, we bought our BCV points during construction and signed in like Feb. Our contract closed in June, along with a second contract we added in March when we decided we hadn't purchased enough points initially, lol.

As long as I have my points and I booked, I'm good. Multiple sources have confirmed the limit of 3 available weeks. I guess the easiest way to find out if it's a bluff is to call your guide and see if they will sell you a FW 49 today.

 

[wdrl]

This is standard for a new property the first set of new deeds aren't set to close until May I believe (my contract arrived, but it's at home, so I can't see it right now). If I recall correctly, we bought our BCV points during construction and signed in like Feb. Our contract closed in June, along with a second contract we added in March when we decided we hadn't purchased enough points initially, lol.

For the last two DVC resorts at Walt Disney World -- VGF and PVB -- Disney filed and recorded deeds very quickly after sales began. VGF sales officially began May 23, 2013, and the first VGF deeds were recorded 14 days later on June 6, 2013. PVB sales officially began on January 12, 2015 and the first PVB deeds were recorded 14 days later on January 26, 2015.

CCV sales officially began 28 days ago on March 8, 2017, and CCV deeds have yet to be recorded.

The longest delay in recent time was for SSR. Sales started in August 2003 and Disney did not file any SSR deeds until May 2004.

 

[ziravan]

That's exactly my plan. I'm going to call tomorrow to see if it's possible, and waitlist if it isn't. Great info. I thought it might work for this year, but didn't know about the chances for future bookings.

Since you banked 2017 points into 2018 keep in mind that if you decide you really wanted to use those points before Dec 2018, you can always break the 2018 fixed use and borrow the 2018 points into 2017. Effectively then, those points would have swapped places with 2017 points in 2018 and 2018 points in 2017.

I wouldn't worry too much about breaking the fixed use in the first few years. At this point, the flexibility is more important.

When we bought our Week 44 Poly fixed use, we did so understanding that we would probably not need to use the guarantee for quite awhile. We took a gamble that over time, the Jersey Week F&W spot would be more difficult to book than week 49 (at Poly! At CCV with Christmas theming, week 49 is the absolute best pick). If we turn out to be right, fantastic. If not, no harm no foul. In the meantime, the fixed use is unnecessary. Our designed use for the guarantee was thinking about what DVC would look like down the road a decade or so. Of course, YMMV and CCV week 49 will be in high demand much sooner I'm sure.

My point is don't be afraid to break the fixed use in the early years, especially while still for sale. Even if you get burnt once by doing so, you'll have 49 other make ups.

 

[STA]

CCV deeds are finally showing up in OC Comptroller website