Fixed weeks released with each declaration?

[CarolynFH]

As far as selling out before opening to the general public, the initial allottment of fixed week studios for Week 49 is sold out. I expect other preferred weeks may sell out soon.

This post started me wondering - when DVD declares additional units into the condominium, additional studios will become available to purchase as fixed week 49, right? I know the total number of studios at CCV is relatively small, but I hope they haven't already sold 35% of them for week 49!

 

[_auroraborealis_]

I don't believe fixed weeks have anything to do with declaration.

 

[erionm]

@wdrl, are you able to answer Carolyn's question?

 

[wdrl]

This post started me wondering - when DVD declares additional units into the condominium, additional studios will become available to purchase as fixed week 49, right? I know the total number of studios at CCV is relatively small, but I hope they haven't already sold 35% of them for week 49!

In the master declaration for Copper Creek, Disney has stated there is a cap of 35% on the number of Fixed Week deeds that can be sold for each accommodation type for each week. The Copper Creek Public Offering Statement shows that it will have a total of 78 studios (see Counting villas at Copper Creek for more details). Thus, for each of the 52 weeks of the calendar year, Disney could sell up to but no more than 27 Fixed Week studio deeds at Copper Creek.

But here is the tricky part: Copper Creek will have 78 studios once the resort is fully declared, but so far Disney has only declared about one-fourth of the resort for the DVC inventory. So far, it has declared only 13 studios. 35% of 13 is 4.55, rounded down to 4.

Right now, Disney might be unable or unwilling to sell more than four studio Fixed Week deeds for each of the 52 weeks in the year. Thus, its possible that it has already sold four fixed week deeds for Week #49.

Once additional inventory is declared, the number of studios should increase, which should mean that Disney should have more Fixed Week deeds for studios it can sell.

 

[CarolynFH]

In the master declaration for Copper Creek, Disney has stated there is a cap of 35% on the number of Fixed Week deeds that can be sold for each accommodation type for each week. The Copper Creek Public Offering Statement shows that it will have a total of 78 studios (see Counting villas at Copper Creek for more details). Thus, for each of the 52 weeks of the calendar year, Disney could sell up to but no more than 27 Fixed Week studio deeds at Copper Creek.

But here is the tricky part: Copper Creek will have 78 studios once the resort is fully declared, but so far Disney has only declared about one-fourth of the resort for the DVC inventory. So far, it has declared only 13 studios. 35% of 13 is 4.55, rounded down to 4.

Right now, Disney might be unable or unwilling to sell more than four studio Fixed Week deeds for each of the 52 weeks in the year. Thus, its possible that it has already sold four fixed week deeds for Week #49.

Once additional inventory is declared, the number of studios should increase, which should mean that Disney should have more Fixed Week deeds for studios it can sell.

Thanks, that's what I was thinking - that as the number of studios declared increases, additional fixed week deeds would become available.

But it's also interesting that they've already sold four fixed week deeds for week 49 studios at CCV. Goes to show how popular early December is with DVC members!

 

[KAT4DISNEY]

Thanks, that's what I was thinking - that as the number of studios declared increases, additional fixed week deeds would become available.

But it's also interesting that they've already sold four fixed week deeds for week 49 studios at CCV. Goes to show how popular early December is with DVC members!

Or a buyer or two has decided after reading that since they were going to buy a similar amount of points then they ought to go ahead with a fixed week.

 

[BWV Dreamin]

It was posted on another thread that all of the week 49 fixed weeks at CCV are sold. If one is truly interested in a fixed week I would buy one NOW.

 

[CarolynFH]

In the master declaration for Copper Creek, Disney has stated there is a cap of 35% on the number of Fixed Week deeds that can be sold for each accommodation type for each week. The Copper Creek Public Offering Statement shows that it will have a total of 78 studios (see Counting villas at Copper Creek for more details). Thus, for each of the 52 weeks of the calendar year, Disney could sell up to but no more than 27 Fixed Week studio deeds at Copper Creek.

But here is the tricky part: Copper Creek will have 78 studios once the resort is fully declared, but so far Disney has only declared about one-fourth of the resort for the DVC inventory. So far, it has declared only 13 studios. 35% of 13 is 4.55, rounded down to 4.

Right now, Disney might be unable or unwilling to sell more than four studio Fixed Week deeds for each of the 52 weeks in the year. Thus, its possible that it has already sold four fixed week deeds for Week #49.

Once additional inventory is declared, the number of studios should increase, which should mean that Disney should have more Fixed Week deeds for studios it can sell.

It was posted on another thread that all of the week 49 fixed weeks at CCV are sold. If one is truly interested in a fixed week I would buy one NOW.

@BWV Dreamin, it was the post you refer to that led me to start this thread. But @wdrl's answer reassures me that more week 49 studio fixed weeks will become available when DVD declares more units into the condominium (thus making them available to be sold).

I think the (probably) 4 weeks that have been sold went to current DVC owners who are well aware of the competition for early December weeks and want to be sure they can stay at CCV that week when they want to. I'm not convinced that the remaining fixed weeks will go quite as fast - but I agree that someone who wants one shouldn't dilly-dally!

 

[Paula Sedley-Burke]

The thing I always wondered about a fix week was what if I purchased a fix week at say week 49 which I understand is the number of points plus 10%. Then 2 years later they shift the point chart so that that season needs more points and they drop points at another season. Well now I don't have enough for my fixed week.

 

[erionm]

The thing I always wondered about a fix week was what if I purchased a fix week at say week 49 which I understand is the number of points plus 10%. Then 2 years later they shift the point chart so that that season needs more points and they drop points at another season. Well now I don't have enough for my fixed week.

Any point reallocations will NOT affect the booking of the fixed week.

 

[HookdonWDW]

Just a note: Although they CAN offer up to 35% as fixed week, it doesn't mean they have to do it. In fact, they haven't reached near that percentage in any previous resort.

The post referenced was mine. I bought the 3rd and final Week 49 for this release. I am sure that they will probably release more, but I suspect that it will significantly less than the 13 potential studios. Especially when you account for the effect that would have on the 2BR Lock-off units.

 

[erionm]

Just a note: Although they CAN offer up to 35% as fixed week, it doesn't mean they have to do it. In fact, they haven't reached near that percentage in any previous resort.

The post referenced was mine. I bought the 3rd and final Week 49 for this release. I am sure that they will probably release more, but I suspect that it will significantly less than the 13 potential studios. Especially when you account for the effect that would have on the 2BR Lock-off units.

A little more than half of the total number of CCV studios available will be dedicated units (42 dedicated vs 36 lock-offs). They could use all of those when booking the fixed weeks without touching any of the lock-off units.

 

[wdrl]

But [USER=238997]@wdrl's answer reassures me that more week 49 studio fixed weeks will become available when DVD declares more units into the condominium (thus making them available to be sold).

I think the (probably) 4 weeks that have been sold went to current DVC owners who are well aware of the competition for early December weeks and want to be sure they can stay at CCV that week when they want to. I'm not convinced that the remaining fixed weeks will go quite as fast - but I agree that someone who wants one shouldn't dilly-dally![/USER]

I hope I am right. I think I am right. But I don't know for sure I am right about what Disney Vacation Development will do when it comes to Fixed Weeks.

Fixed Weeks were first offered at Aulani, but the public data is not readily available in order to track Fixed Week sales for that resort.

Sales data is available on Fixed Week deeds for both the Villas at Grand Floridian and the Polynesian Villas & Bungalows. Neither resort has reached the 35% cap limit on Fixed Week sales for any accommodation type or Week. I don't know if Disney decided to sell fewer Fixed Week deeds than it was permitted or whether there just wasn't the demand for that option.

Week #49 is the second most popular week for Fixed Week sales at both resorts with 22 and 14 deeds, respectively. Looking at the studios for Week #49, the two resorts have not sold the maximum number of possible Fixed Week deeds:

VGF:
Lake View studios: Maximum - 5; sold - 4
Standard View studios: Maximum - 10; sold - 4

PVB:
Lake View studios: Maximum - 25; sold - 8
Standard View studios: Maximum - 100; sold - 4

 

[HookdonWDW]

A little more than half of the total number of CCV studios available will be dedicated units (42 dedicated vs 36 lock-offs). They could use all of those when booking the fixed weeks without touching any of the lock-off units.

They could, but history (and this initial offering) show they may not want to do it. Especially during a time that historically sells out quickly without fixed weeks.

 

[erionm]

They could, but history (and this initial offering) show they may not want to do it. Especially during a time that historically sells out quickly without fixed weeks.

What history? CCV is the first DVC Resort to offer fixed weeks that has dedicated studios.

 

[HookdonWDW]

What history? CCV is the first DVC Resort to offer fixed weeks that has dedicated studios.

The history of not selling to 35% at any resort where Fixed Weeks are available,

 

[Paula Sedley-Burke]

Any point reallocations will NOT affect the booking of the fixed week.

That's good to know so they honour any orginal points agreed for that week?

 

[HookdonWDW]

Sales data is available on Fixed Week deeds for both the Villas at Grand Floridian and the Polynesian Villas & Bungalows. Neither resort has reached the 35% cap limit on Fixed Week sales for any accommodation type or Week. I don't know if Disney decided to sell fewer Fixed Week deeds than it was permitted or whether there just wasn't the demand for that option.

Week #49 is the second most popular week for Fixed Week sales at both resorts with 22 and 14 deeds, respectively. Looking at the studios for Week #49, the two resorts have not sold the maximum number of possible Fixed Week deeds:

VGF:
Lake View studios: Maximum - 5; sold - 4
Standard View studios: Maximum - 10; sold - 4

PVB:
Lake View studios: Maximum - 25; sold - 8
Standard View studios: Maximum - 100; sold - 4

Thanks for the data. I know that we tried for a FW 49 for VGF and were told no availabilty for either view. I hope they do release more this time as there seems to be a market.

 

[erionm]

The history of not selling to 35% at any resort where Fixed Weeks are available,

I'm not referring to the number of fixed weeks sold or made available for sale, but what they could do with actual bookings of fixed week studios with ZERO impact on lock-off 2-bedrooms.

 

[wdrl]

What history? CCV is the first DVC Resort to offer fixed weeks that has dedicated studios.

All of the studios at the Polynesian Villas & Bungalows are dedicated, but CCV is the first to have a mix of dedicated studios and lock-off studios.

When counting the maximum number of accommodation types that can be sold as Fixed Week deeds for each week, Disney counts both dedicated and lock-off villas. CCV will have 42 dedicated studios and 36 lock-off studios. Thus, the 35% cap on Fixed Week deeds will be based on 78 studios.