First Purchase- Help Requested on where to buy

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Calling on all of you DVC Veterans- I need help!:confused:

We are close to purchasing our first DVC points :goodvibes (probably around 160-200 points), and are having A LOT of problems deciding where to buy! AKV has some very good incentives, and we sould love the matching points to use on our next trip. The problem is that AK is my least favorite park, and we would rather stay closer to MK or EP (and not have to take the bus to all the parks). But, being relatively young, it seems like the newer resorts make more sense because of the longer contract. SO,, one of my question is, how hard is it to get into non-home resorts like BWV or VWL? We normally vacation in June, but would like to go at different times of the year with ownership. Also, I've also been considering buying 160 pts at AKV for the incentives, and adding on 40-50 pts at VWL or BWV to be guaranteed to stay there at least every few years. Any thoughts or suggestions would be much appreciated regarding where to buy or how to allocate our point purchase!

Oh, and one last question, how likely is it that Disney will offer extensions on VWL or BWV like what they did at OKW? That could definetely sway us to go with resell points. Thanks!:surfweb:
 
Don't buy based upon price. Buy because that is where you like to stay the most. If you don't yet know which resort you like the most, I wouldn't buy right now, I would rent to try out the different resorts.

Saving a few bucks is one thing, staying at a resort you love is another. Disney is a magical place, your resort and vacation should be magical too. :tinker:
 
At certain times of year, it can be very difficult to get into BWV, VWL and BCV at 7 months.

The most common bit of advice for prospective buyers on this forum is: buy where you want to stay.

I would add: what's more of a value? More years in a resort you don't really care for, in a location that's not convenient for you, or fewer years in a resort you love near the parks you want to visit?
 
We just bought at AKV last week while we were staying there for the first time...absolutely loved it! AK is my least favorite park but the buses were great and actually we waited less for buses and to get back from MK and Epcot than we did hitching a ride on the monorail to the Poly for dinner two times. :) AKL is so relaxing and we just knew it was perfect for us!
 

Warning: following comments are from a DVC newbie who just purchased a resell contract - YMMV

I have made a couple of longish posts on other threads regarding how to I figured out which resort and how many points I needed. I wont say the same stuff again, (big sigh of relief from the disers I am sure! :lmao: ) but here is a few more things that helped me determin which DVC property.

1. Location/transportation: ease of transport was a huge issue for me, because when I go down with three kids by myself, I rely wholly on Disney transportation. Although I was very much drawn to AKL because of the gorgeous theming and great incentives, I had to cross it off my list because it was so geographically challenged (couple with the dining issue). Even though the bus system is very efficient for AKL, its still a looong bus ride. JMHO I dont think any other DVC resort has the same location challenge as AKL. I also like to use a multitude of transportation types, I always find taking the boat or monorail to get places half the pleasure, and walking is very convienent too.

2.Dining: we personally go down for longer trips, rather then several short ones. This makes a difference with the whole dining issue (MHO). If I am at a DVC resort that is more isolated, and relying only on Disney transport, well then-- my choices are 'eat at the park' or eat at the home resort. On a 10 day trip, no matter how great the home resort restaraunts are,,,, its going to get old fast. Counter service will be important too. I could try and do most of our dining ressies at the park we are visiting, but this requires sticking to ADR plans (you need to book months in advance for the good ones) and does not allow for as much flexibility as I would like to have. Dining was the deal breaker issue for me on AKL. If you were a person who wants many shorter trips in a year, then I dont think this would be a factor.

3. What kind of trips are you planning to take? Like I said, we tend to go down every year or every other year on a long trip. Getting ressies for DVC resorts for long trips is more challenging then for shorter trips. (harder to get same room type/catagory for consecutive days ) Here is where home resort advantage is critical for me -- We want to do long trips at peak travel times - ie, spring break, summer and christmas. If we were the type to take several shorter trips in one year, or during off season times, home resort advantage would not be so critical I dont think.

4. buying DVC is like doing a Will -- this is my own personal opinion. When DH and I were trying to make up our will a few years ago, it was very difficult to do, because we were trying to do one that would last 30 years or so ( we are optimists! ;) ). The lawyer told us, its impossible to have a perfect will that will last that long, do one that is practical and useful for the next 5-10 years, and then revise it as life changes (like, we had more kids! and our executer got a mentally debilitating disease after 3 years)

Ok- here is the link to DVC. As I started trying to figure out which resort that would work for 35/45 years, I realized that life circumstances changed over the years, and what one resort had to offer us now, another resort MAAYYYYY be better for us in 10 to 20 years. Example - the epcot dvc's are perfect for us now because we could be in the thick of things, the kids will love the pools and action and eventually they will love the 'night life' of the boardwalk area. In 15 years, we retire and maybe at that point, SSR or OKW would be much better options (longer contract lifespan, quieter atmosphere, we could maybe do a month or so during the winter, being able to park our car right outside the OKW unit - you get the picture) So do I plan for the first 10 years of DVC, or the last 10 years? I think everyone should ask this question when buying. Ok, here is what I decided to do....

5. Big pile of rocks theory --(be advised in advance that I can just about justify anything to my DH....;) ) I decided to get the DVC that would best suit us for the first 10-15 years ownership. Here is my theory on the pile of rocks.... Imagine that each DVC property is a pile of rocks, and you want to stake your flag in one of them. The bigger DVC's with more rooms and availibility are the BIG piles of rocks, and the smaller DVC's with less available rooms are smaller piles of rocks... I decided to plant my flag in the small pile of rocks called BCV. I staked my claim. Now, at 11 months out, I know I have a good shot at staying at the resort I most want to be in, and should be able to get what I want. This is the same thing that could be said about ANY DVC by their owner. Now, here is where the flag running starts. At 7 months out, if I want to try a different resort, I need to run and place my flag at another resort. If they have a BIG pile of rocks (like AKL or SSR or even - I will say it! Dont throw tomatoes at me!!! -- BLT-- if I wanted a lake view after the first few years of it being on the market) then I am going to have an advantage over someone trying to come and stick their flag into my little pile of rocks. KWIM? Its more likely I will easily be able to taste some of the larger DVC's just because of the sheer number of size, then someone wanting to come over and stay at BCV. If I want to try another smaller DVC like BWV or WLV, well, I am on equal footing with the masses, and may or may not be lucky.

Another factor: BCV has held on to their resell value pretty darn good. If in 15 years I want to sell and then buy OKW, I think I wont loose too much on the deal. Or, it may be a non issue, I may be able to use my BCV points at 7 months to book consequtive days at OKW no problem. That will be a decision I have to make down the road.

I dont know if my comments will help you or confuse you more. What I do think is important for anyone going to purchase DVC (either from Disney or by resell) is ... Ask yourself the right questions. What type of trips do you plan to take..What time of year will you be taking them- during busy times or not? which parks or areas are important to you? What theme appeals to you? How will you be getting around (people who drive or rent have so much more flexibiity then those of us who rely on Disney transport), and well, the list could go on and on. When you read on these boards realize that one persons 'pro' can be another person's 'con', depending on what type of trips you will take, when you take them, and what you personally find appealing.

HTH

Sorry about the long post!:surfweb:
 
Op I say buy where you really want to stay, otherwise you're just hoping you'll be able to stay somewhere else, and you'll be paying for a place you'd really rather not stay at.
 
I would like to add that it is a good idea to stay at the resort before buying to make sure it is what you want.

We were staying at Vero when we bought OKW without having visited it. Shortly after we bought OKW, BCV was the hot resort and I wondered if we should have picked there or even VWL.

After several trips to OKW (can't beat the low points), we recently stayed at BCV and we realized we don't care for it. I fully expected to love BCV, but didn't. It's beautiful, just not for us. I was very surprised that both DH and I feel the same way.

Fortunately, we love OKW and SSR too. I guess they are our style.

My point is to not listen to anyone else's opinion about a resort, but to go and find out for yourself. We were lucky with OKW, but really shouldn't have picked it without visiting first.
 
We own at AKV and changed our last reservation at the 7 month mark for a June stay at VWL in a 2BR. It was wonderful.

I don't think the summer months are going to be a problem booking at any of the other resorts.

The fall & early winter months are a different matter as Food & Wine Festival, Thanksgiving, Christmas, New Years, etc will pretty much require home resort advantage at the Epcot and MK resorts.
 
I know it's been a while since this was posted, but...

I just wanted to say thanks so much for everyone's responses. It's definetely given us a lot to think about, and thanks to everyone's advice we will at least be visiting some of the resorts we're considering purchasing at during our Nov. trip.

We rely soley on Disney transportation during our stays, so that is definetely a major concern for us, but I hadn't given as much thought to the "pile of rocks" theory (Thanks Rileygirl!!) or the dining questions, so that's given us even more to consider. Thanks again everyone- the Disboards are awesome!!:flower3:
 
I have never had a problem booking outside of my home resort (BWV). We have stayed most recently at BCV and had no problems booking a one-bedroom suite both times. We've also stayed at Hilton Head in a two-bedroom and had no problems booking. I wouldn't let the 7-month window be a huge factor in my decision of home resort. Like someone answered previously, I would pick my favorite knowing that you'll probably try to stay at different resorts throughout the years. One note, BLT with a longer expiration date is not a bad idea!
 
Beach Club Villas or the new property at Contemporary. Those are the only ones I'd consider.
 
Beach Club Villas or the new property at Contemporary. Those are the only ones I'd consider.


Any reason why you'd eliminate BWV or VWL? I was thinking about BLT (location, low annual dues and longer contract) and BWV (location and lower point costs). :surfweb:
 
Any reason why you'd eliminate BWV or VWL? I was thinking about BLT (location, low annual dues and longer contract) and BWV (location and lower point costs). :surfweb:

BLT presently will have lowest annual dues (Maintenance Fees). That will change. The following link will give you history on how MFs have changed over the years at each DVC resort - see Post #2 by LisaS.

http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=1966427

IMHO it is important to understand ::yes:: what MFs can cost you each year based upon your Home Resort & number of points you may be considering for your purchase.

Although your travel plans may very well change as the years pass, try to get an idea on an approximate number of points you may need (calculate this for each resort) based on what your present travel habits are or what you'd like them to possibly be when you own DVC and also using the type of villa you'd most likely choose to stay in - then you can get a more accurate idea of what MFs cost you'd be paying each year. This may make a particular resort more attractive to you when deciding what your Home Resort should be.

Not to complicate the decision process further but buying where you love to stay "works" only if you can book 8 - 11 months in advance of your check-in date ... at 7 months all points become 'equal' regardless of what Home Resort they are tied to. Someone posted recently on a thread discussing Use Year that if a prospective buyer planned to book at 7 months or less as the rule rather than the exception it may be best to not get hung up on deciding on a particular Home Resort but rather purchase a resale contract with best overall price & MFs & contract duration pointing out the many great resale prices currently at SSR as well as its MFs & 2054 expiration.

It is alot of info to navigate :scared1: so you are wise to ask many questions & to visit the resorts on your Nov trip.

Good luck on your planning :wizard:
 
Warning: following comments are from a DVC newbie who just purchased a resell contract - YMMV

I have made a couple of longish posts on other threads regarding how to I figured out which resort and how many points I needed. I wont say the same stuff again, (big sigh of relief from the disers I am sure! :lmao: ) but here is a few more things that helped me determin which DVC property.

1. Location/transportation: ease of transport was a huge issue for me, because when I go down with three kids by myself, I rely wholly on Disney transportation. Although I was very much drawn to AKL because of the gorgeous theming and great incentives, I had to cross it off my list because it was so geographically challenged (couple with the dining issue). Even though the bus system is very efficient for AKL, its still a looong bus ride. JMHO I dont think any other DVC resort has the same location challenge as AKL. I also like to use a multitude of transportation types, I always find taking the boat or monorail to get places half the pleasure, and walking is very convienent too.

2.Dining: we personally go down for longer trips, rather then several short ones. This makes a difference with the whole dining issue (MHO). If I am at a DVC resort that is more isolated, and relying only on Disney transport, well then-- my choices are 'eat at the park' or eat at the home resort. On a 10 day trip, no matter how great the home resort restaraunts are,,,, its going to get old fast. Counter service will be important too. I could try and do most of our dining ressies at the park we are visiting, but this requires sticking to ADR plans (you need to book months in advance for the good ones) and does not allow for as much flexibility as I would like to have. Dining was the deal breaker issue for me on AKL. If you were a person who wants many shorter trips in a year, then I dont think this would be a factor.

3. What kind of trips are you planning to take? Like I said, we tend to go down every year or every other year on a long trip. Getting ressies for DVC resorts for long trips is more challenging then for shorter trips. (harder to get same room type/catagory for consecutive days ) Here is where home resort advantage is critical for me -- We want to do long trips at peak travel times - ie, spring break, summer and christmas. If we were the type to take several shorter trips in one year, or during off season times, home resort advantage would not be so critical I dont think.

4. buying DVC is like doing a Will -- this is my own personal opinion. When DH and I were trying to make up our will a few years ago, it was very difficult to do, because we were trying to do one that would last 30 years or so ( we are optimists! ;) ). The lawyer told us, its impossible to have a perfect will that will last that long, do one that is practical and useful for the next 5-10 years, and then revise it as life changes (like, we had more kids! and our executer got a mentally debilitating disease after 3 years)

Ok- here is the link to DVC. As I started trying to figure out which resort that would work for 35/45 years, I realized that life circumstances changed over the years, and what one resort had to offer us now, another resort MAAYYYYY be better for us in 10 to 20 years. Example - the epcot dvc's are perfect for us now because we could be in the thick of things, the kids will love the pools and action and eventually they will love the 'night life' of the boardwalk area. In 15 years, we retire and maybe at that point, SSR or OKW would be much better options (longer contract lifespan, quieter atmosphere, we could maybe do a month or so during the winter, being able to park our car right outside the OKW unit - you get the picture) So do I plan for the first 10 years of DVC, or the last 10 years? I think everyone should ask this question when buying. Ok, here is what I decided to do....

5. Big pile of rocks theory --(be advised in advance that I can just about justify anything to my DH....;) ) I decided to get the DVC that would best suit us for the first 10-15 years ownership. Here is my theory on the pile of rocks.... Imagine that each DVC property is a pile of rocks, and you want to stake your flag in one of them. The bigger DVC's with more rooms and availibility are the BIG piles of rocks, and the smaller DVC's with less available rooms are smaller piles of rocks... I decided to plant my flag in the small pile of rocks called BCV. I staked my claim. Now, at 11 months out, I know I have a good shot at staying at the resort I most want to be in, and should be able to get what I want. This is the same thing that could be said about ANY DVC by their owner. Now, here is where the flag running starts. At 7 months out, if I want to try a different resort, I need to run and place my flag at another resort. If they have a BIG pile of rocks (like AKL or SSR or even - I will say it! Dont throw tomatoes at me!!! -- BLT-- if I wanted a lake view after the first few years of it being on the market) then I am going to have an advantage over someone trying to come and stick their flag into my little pile of rocks. KWIM? Its more likely I will easily be able to taste some of the larger DVC's just because of the sheer number of size, then someone wanting to come over and stay at BCV. If I want to try another smaller DVC like BWV or WLV, well, I am on equal footing with the masses, and may or may not be lucky.

Another factor: BCV has held on to their resell value pretty darn good. If in 15 years I want to sell and then buy OKW, I think I wont loose too much on the deal. Or, it may be a non issue, I may be able to use my BCV points at 7 months to book consequtive days at OKW no problem. That will be a decision I have to make down the road.

I dont know if my comments will help you or confuse you more. What I do think is important for anyone going to purchase DVC (either from Disney or by resell) is ... Ask yourself the right questions. What type of trips do you plan to take..What time of year will you be taking them- during busy times or not? which parks or areas are important to you? What theme appeals to you? How will you be getting around (people who drive or rent have so much more flexibiity then those of us who rely on Disney transport), and well, the list could go on and on. When you read on these boards realize that one persons 'pro' can be another person's 'con', depending on what type of trips you will take, when you take them, and what you personally find appealing.

HTH

Sorry about the long post!:surfweb:


This is a great post. It is such a personal preference as to why people buy and stay where they do. SSR for instance has WONDERFUL Artist Palette for a counter service rest...we have 3 family memebrs with gluten allergies and they can go to Artist Palette every day and there is a chef on hand who makes gluten free waffles gluten free pizza etc. It's a real treat for them, and so convenient. It means so much to us, it kind of adds a priceless value to SSR for our family. That is why it is such a waste of time for people to complain about or belittle other choices of home resorts. What is important to one may not be to others. It's a lot like buying a home. I'm sure we don't all live in Colonials. I do, I love it, but people who hate stairs wouldn't want one. Buy where you love, don't worry about anyone elses opinion...what do you like? It's your money so thats all that really matters! Good Luck!:)
 
OMG! :laughing:
I am so glad that when I bought there was only 1 choice! OKW is perfect for us.

Quiet, large rooms (big plus) ;) , Good bus service, Easy to get to. Convenient parking. Lovely restaurant.
And it is in WDW!!!!!

What more could I ask for? (More points naturally, more money and time to enjoy the points that I have.)
 
In our opinion, and we have stayed at each resort except AKV and BLT. The size and age range of your family should have a strong impact on where you buy.
We are in the young senior group with grown children and young grandkids.
For us BCV answers all our needs because of the easy access to two parks and two resorts with on site activities after nine oclock at night. If our grandkids are coming with us, priorities change, and the easy access to MK becomes a major consideration but VWL is very quiet after nine PM because the younger kids are asleep or, on the way, after a long day.
For us,the contract extention has no impact right now, we'll cross the bridge when we come to it.
In summation, my advice is just like the consensus BUY WHERE YOU LOVE
 
I look at as an emotional decision rather than a logical one. Which place "feels" right? The differences in price, MFs and contract length just aren't enough in my mind to prevent me from purchasing where I know I want to stay.

In my case I just purchased BWV. Epcot is by far my favorite park, so right off the bat I have narrowed my choices down to two. I have stayed at both BWV and BCV on rented points(which I would highly recommend to any prospective buyer). In my opinion BCV is too remote from the rest of the property. Many would enjoy the peace and quiet, but I felt to removed from the action. That was disappointing to me because I love staying at the YC and I really thought I would love BCV. The opposite is true at BWV, I felt right in the middle of everything with a short walk to Epcot to boot. My first stay as a member is in January and I can't wait!

Melissa
 
I completely agree - it is an emotional decision. When you buy DVC, you are making a luxury purchase designed to make you and your family happy for years to come. If you want the most economical option or you were pinching pennies, you could buy into another nice timeshare program like Wyndham/Fairfield resale and stay in nice places in Orlando for a fraction of what DVC will cost. But being inside WDW means something to people who buy DVC.

IMO, the best way to make this decision is to rent points at the resort you THINK you may most like (or ideally split a stay on rental points between your top 2 choices), and while you are there, take the time to visit the other DVC properties and maybe eat at the restaurant or pool hop if available. That will give you the flavor of each resort. After that, you should have a really good idea of where you and your family will truly feel at "home." For me, I just adore the Beach Club. Nothing matches the feeling I have about that resort, which I had even before DVC existed. I have rented at VWL and BWV, but BCV is the only place I really want to stay. I just love the entire feel of the place, everything about it. Owning there as my home resort makes me happy in a way that owning at SSR or other places would not, even with the longer contract.

Another big consideration is how often you go. If you live far away and can only go once a year or every other year, then where you stay is a much bigger deal. If you go 3 or 4 times per year, where you stay each time is not as significant.
 
OMG! :laughing:
I am so glad that when I bought there was only 1 choice! OKW is perfect for us.

Quiet, large rooms (big plus) ;) , Good bus service, Easy to get to. Convenient parking. Lovely restaurant.
And it is in WDW!!!!!

What more could I ask for? (More points naturally, more money and time to enjoy the points that I have.)


Amen to that! The only things I can think of is unlimited fast passes and some truth to the saying that calories on vacation don't count! :laughing:

Seriously though, I'm sure wherever we decide (if we ever decide) we'll be happy with because you're right, how can you go wrong? It's Disneyworld!
 
BLT presently will have lowest annual dues (Maintenance Fees). That will change...
I don't think so.

Dues are simply the total cost to run the resort divided by all points sold for that resort. BLT will not be particularly expensive to maintain and will have about 20% more points sold per room/night than any other resort so it's reasonable to expect it's fees to remain proportionately lower than the rest.
 















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