Finger Scanning-what a joke

[Brian Noble]

I'll answer: I wouldn't, because otherwise I'd be inflicting further embarrassment on that poor orphan who would be stopped at the turnstiles because he looks NOTHING like me (and I wouldn't give him my driver's license, anyway.)

 

[WedwayRocks]

I'll answer: I wouldn't, because otherwise I'd be inflicting further embarrassment on that poor orphan who would be stopped at the turnstiles because he looks NOTHING like me (and I wouldn't give him my driver's license, anyway.)

Ok...well say that you found out that you and him just happened to have identical bone density's on your right hand (this kid's got a really big hand for a 9 year old) and they wouldn't have to check his i.d. because he would pass the finger test thingamajigger? How about then?

 

[Brian Noble]

Again, purely hypothetical, as I'd never have an unused day in the first place. Skip a park day? Notonyourlife!

 

[WedwayRocks]

Again, purely hypothetical, as I'd never have an unused day in the first place. Skip a park day? Notonyourlife!

Right Answer!!

And I see none of you other orphan haters would like to comment?!?

 

[DLKT]

Just because you keep saying this, doesn't make it true. And no one else is buying what you are selling except for WedwayRocks, who I believe is just trolling for the fun of it.

But, go ahead. Buy a partially-used ticket.

Have you read ANY of my posts on this?


I don't mind people that disagree with me but some of you are acting like it's wrong to complain about a bad movie.
Weird.

 

[Brian Noble]

I was good at spotting the clues in Encyclopedia Brown books, too.

 

[rayelias]

(sorry. duplicate post.)

 

[rayelias]

If a starving, poor, orphan child was outside of the magic kingdom gates in his wheel chair, and his dying wish was to come in to the park to ride Dumbo and have a turkey leg, and you knew you had an extra day on your 7 day park hopper pass, you wouldn't let him use it?

I'm serious! Answer the question!

(re: Tiki Room) Burn in...Burn it to the ground.

Just for that, I'm going to answer your question...

Nope. I paid for the ticket. I worked hard to earn the money to buy the ticket. What did the dying orphan do to get in... look at me all sad like and make me feel guilty? Fat chance!

It's a good thing you didn't insult CoP. That would REALLY put me in a bad mood!

 

[DLKT]

Tiki Room ROCKS!

The OLD Tiki Room rocks.
The "New Management" one SHOULD be burned.


[ducks and runs away]

 

[WedwayRocks]

I was good at spotting the clues in Encyclopedia Brown books, too.

We're not advocating buying partially used tickets. Just saying that Disney is going about this problem a whole other way. I am an AP holder and I believe so DLKT. My point is that disney is not losing money from people sharing tickets, cause what ever they lose in ticket prices, they are more then making up for in food, merchandise, turkey legs, and lets not forget the super expensive resort rooms. Am i saying that doing this is right? NO! But is Disney losing money by it going on? NO! Burn down the Tiki Room and extend Pirates of the Caribbean into a longer ride? YES!

 

[Brian Noble]

It's fine to complain about the ticket pricing structure. But that's not what you are doing. You are also trying to claim that it is morally correct to explicitly violate the license of the admission tickets. I don't know what moral framework you follow, but I'm not aware of any such framework (other than perhaps "Anarchist") that would suggest that is morally acceptable. Then, when people point this out to you, you say that all you are doing is "complaining."

That's just bait-n-switch debating, and you shouldn't be surprised that you've been called on it.

But, sure, complain away. After all, we could go back to the old parkhopper days, where the per-day difference was never more than $5 or $10 a day. And, in that case, you were probably right: WDW made just about the same $$$ on shared tickets as they did when everyone bought their own.

But, we have a new pricing structure, clearly designed to provide incentive to stay five days or longer. You don't like it. That's fine. Don't go. After all, a big money-hungry corporation like Disney only understands one thing, so vote with your pocketbook!

 

[minnie61650]

So for all of you against ticket sharing...If a starving, poor, orphan child was outside of the magic kingdom gates in his wheel chair, and his dying wish was to come in to the park to ride Dumbo and have a turkey leg, and you knew you had an extra day on your 7 day park hopper pass, you wouldn't let him use it?

I would buy him a new pass and if his family members were there I would buy them passes too since my extra day can't be shared.
I also often buy extra concert tickets in our area and donate them to our local Make A Wish Fondation..
Linda

 

[Brian Noble]

My point is that disney is not losing money from people sharing tickets, cause what ever they lose in ticket prices, they are more then making up for in food, merchandise, turkey legs, and lets not forget the super expensive resort rooms.

How do you figure? A single family that stays seven nights and visits eight days has to eat all eight of those days, and stay somewhere. Two families that visit four days stay only three nights each (losing one night's hotel revenue) eat roughly the same amount (no gains there) and might buy an extra set of mouse ears and other $10 trinkets. Even with "new math", that's at best break-even on the non-ticket expenditures, and probably a loss thanks to the lost night of hotel revenue.

But, they are losing money on the tickets. about $200 per person. So, I just don't buy it.

 

[WedwayRocks]

It's fine to complain about the ticket pricing structure. But that's not what you are doing. You are also trying to claim that it is morally correct to explicitly violate the license of the admission tickets. I don't know what moral framework you follow, but I'm not aware of any such framework (other than perhaps "Anarchist") that would suggest that is morally acceptable. Then, when people point this out to you, you say that all you are doing is "complaining."

That's just bait-n-switch debating, and you shouldn't be surprised that you've been called on it.

But, sure, complain away. After all, we could go back to the old parkhopper days, where the per-day difference was never more than $5 or $10 a day. And, in that case, you were probably right: WDW made just about the same $$$ on shared tickets as they did when everyone bought their own.

But, we have a new pricing structure, clearly designed to provide incentive to stay five days or longer. You don't like it. That's fine. Don't go. After all, a big money-hungry corporation like Disney only understands one thing, so vote with your pocketbook!

I believe I just said in my statement, "Am i saying that doing this is right? NO! ". I dont do it and would never do it and would not encourage people to do it. My point for getting involved in this discussion was to say to the people that were saying, oh poor disney, people are stealing and cheating disney out of money; is to say "Wake up brothers and sisters, Disney makes a million dollars a day, yes its wrong, but dont sit here and say that Disney is losing money".

 

[WDW LifeLong Fan]

I think what it all comes down to, and that we all have to agree on is that the Tiki Room has got to be the most boring thing at the Walt Disney World and should be burnt to the ground.

 

[Brian Noble]

Sorry wedway: I'm accusing DLKT of bait-n-switch. Not you. Needed to quote.

 

[greenyskp]

We're not advocating buying partially used tickets. Just saying that Disney is going about this problem a whole other way. I am an AP holder and I believe so DLKT. My point is that disney is not losing money from people sharing tickets, cause what ever they lose in ticket prices, they are more then making up for in food, merchandise, turkey legs, and lets not forget the super expensive resort rooms. Am i saying that doing this is right? NO! But is Disney losing money by it going on? NO! Burn down the Tiki Room and extend Pirates of the Caribbean into a longer ride? YES!

Ohhhhh hehehe ok. I understand now. Your up in arms about Disney's profit. So what part of the Disney Bookkeeping office do you work in? Do you have these figures for food, merchandise? yeah...didnt think so.

You're an AP holder. You should be up in arms about the fact that theyre taking away all of our benefits and raising the prices of an AP considerably.

So here's my point. Disney has to have rules. Without rules, it would be a free-for-all, and as we all know, without rules and laws, lots of people would behurt, used, killed and a variety of other things. So they had to set up a system to stop those "scalping" tickets. And protect people who get their tickets stolen as well. Yes the finger scanning isnt the best idea. But its what Disney has in place. If you're THAT concerned write them a letter about it, instead of wasting hours complaing to DISboards members.

Stay concerned with your family. And stop worrying about others. If you advocate breaking disney rules. So be it. I cant stop you. Nor do I care.

 

[WedwayRocks]

How do you figure? A single family that stays seven nights and visits eight days has to eat all eight of those days, and stay somewhere. Two families that visit four days stay only three nights each (losing one night's hotel revenue) eat roughly the same amount (no gains there) and might buy an extra set of mouse ears and other $10 trinkets. Even with "new math", that's at best break-even on the non-ticket expenditures, and probably a loss thanks to the lost night of hotel revenue.

But, they are losing money on the tickets. about $200 per person. So, I just don't buy it.

You left out part of my quote from an earlier statement, sneaky sneaky. At the end of the day, after disney calculates all of their spendings for the day in regards to their earnings, how do you think they fair?? All I am saying is that I am sure, they come out in the green. That is it! That's all I am saying. Do I thinks its wrong, yes, do I think everyone involved in sharing tickets should be penalized (thrown out, having their tickets revoked), yes, but do I think this practice that is going on(so small that it probably doesn't even happen everyday) is making disney lose money. no.

 

[greenyskp]

It's fine to complain about the ticket pricing structure. But that's not what you are doing. You are also trying to claim that it is morally correct to explicitly violate the license of the admission tickets. I don't know what moral framework you follow, but I'm not aware of any such framework (other than perhaps "Anarchist") that would suggest that is morally acceptable. Then, when people point this out to you, you say that all you are doing is "complaining."

That's just bait-n-switch debating, and you shouldn't be surprised that you've been called on it.

But, sure, complain away. After all, we could go back to the old parkhopper days, where the per-day difference was never more than $5 or $10 a day. And, in that case, you were probably right: WDW made just about the same $$$ on shared tickets as they did when everyone bought their own.

But, we have a new pricing structure, clearly designed to provide incentive to stay five days or longer. You don't like it. That's fine. Don't go. After all, a big money-hungry corporation like Disney only understands one thing, so vote with your pocketbook!

God i wish I was articulate like you.

 

[Brian Noble]

"Wake up brothers and sisters, Disney makes a million dollars a day, yes its wrong, but dont sit here and say that Disney is losing money".

Of course, you're correct. I don't think anyone is claiming that DisCo ends up in the red if Bob and Alice share one 10-day MYW parkhopper. Rather, the loss is relative to the "honest-player" revenue they would have realized.