Finger Scanning-what a joke

[DISUNC]

Okay, I was at WDW in December with my DH and MIL. I used an AP and every time, I had to use the fingerscan. My DH and MIL had park hopper passes and not once were they asked to use the fingerscan. I didn't think the crowd level was particularly high even though we were there at park opening time. Has there been a change? Do they now require fingerscans for park hopper passes? My DH and I are returning to WDW in September. The plan was to use up the remaining days on my DH and MIL's passes from December. Please tell me there won't be a problem.

We had Parkhoppers and had to use the scanners..IN fact EVERYBODY had to use them...even one day ticket holders. Only Children were exempt!
HUGE HASSLE

 

[peter11435]

We had Parkhoppers and had to use the scanners..IN fact EVERYBODY had to use them...even one day ticket holders. Only Children were exempt!
HUGE HASSLE

You may have found it a huge hassle but it is what has enabled them to lower the prices for extened stays. Not to mention it is the only way of enforcing the rules (and the law).

 

[Acklander]

Once DH went in using my pass in error - he had both in his wallet and grabbed the wrong one - He was able to get in just fine, but the next time I went to use it it denied me access and I had to show ID.

 

[DISUNC]

You may have found it a huge hassle but it is what has enabled them to lower the prices for extened stays. Not to mention it is the only way of enforcing the rules (and the law).

What law is that?

 

[safetymom]

Old park hoppers were required to use the finger scan starting in June. MYW tickets required the finger scan starting in January.

 

[peter11435]

What law is that?

Florida State Statute 817.361 states that, all multi-day and multi-event ticket media must be used by the same person on any and all days.

 

[bigmac5]

Do they tell you that you have to have ID just in case. I wasn't planning on taking any in with me (one less thing to get lost).


At what age do they consider children to be children. My children (and I concider them children) are 11,13 and 14, but they have adult tickets. They have no picture ID

 

[DISUNC]

Florida State Statute 817.361 states that, all multi-day and multi-event ticket media must be used by the same person on any and all days.

Gee I wonder who got them to pass that law?????? I wonder why we dont have such a important law like that here in PA? I think that the FL lawmakers should have way more important things to pass.

Really whats the HARM if I purchase a 3 day ticket & use only 2 days...and give the extra day to someone else to use. WDW isn't out any $.....Only ONE person is using the ticket at any given time. It would be different If I purchased a 3 day ticket, then only used 2 days, and WDW gave me the 3rd day $ back.

 

[DISUNC]

Do they tell you that you have to have ID just in case. I wasn't planning on taking any in with me (one less thing to get lost).


At what age do they consider children to be children. My children (and I concider them children) are 11,13 and 14, but they have adult tickets. They have no picture ID

Over 10 is a adult is WDW eyes!

Forget the pic id with kids. My parents (both in their 70's) NEVER DROVE (nyc born & bred) and never had any PIC id. In fact my Mom never even had a birth certificate, she does have a S/S #. She can't fly or switch checking accounts these days.

 

[peter11435]

Gee I wonder who got them to pass that law?????? I wonder why we dont have such a important law like that here in PA? I think that the FL lawmakers should have way more important things to pass.

Really whats the HARM if I purchase a 3 day ticket & use only 2 days...and give the extra day to someone else to use. WDW isn't out any $.....Only ONE person is using the ticket at any given time. It would be different If I purchased a 3 day ticket, then only used 2 days, and WDW gave me the 3rd day $ back.

Actually they are out money because a three day pass is cheaper than a two day plus a one day. If you were to by a 6 day ticket use three days and give the other three to someone else Disney would make $196. However if you were to each by a 3 day ticket Disney would make $342. Thus disney is out money by people sharing tickets. Keeping people from sharing tickets is why disney was able to offer tickets that get much cheaper as you add days.

Also for your information the statute had nothing to do with disney but was put in place to stop sports ticket scalping.

 

[snowy76]

Just FYI to anyone who does not have photo ID: the DMV (at least here in NY State) can issue what's called a "non-driver photo ID." I believe most local police or sheriff's departments are also able to do this for someone who does not have a license. I think you need proof of birth and a SS card.

 

[zddPaul]

Really whats the HARM if I purchase a 3 day ticket & use only 2 days...and give the extra day to someone else to use. WDW isn't out any $.....Only ONE person is using the ticket at any given time. It would be different If I purchased a 3 day ticket, then only used 2 days, and WDW gave me the 3rd day $ back.

The state law doesn't do anything other than give Disney ammo if they want to confiscate a pass or go after big operations. Even without the law, they are free to set any policy they want. If someone breaks the policy, they can bar admission, confiscate the pass and have no obligation to compensate the holder.

In terms of harm, I'll argue Disney's point of view. Disney makes discounts as encouragement to stay longer. If you stay longer, you are more likely to stay on site and not go off property for food or to visit other parks. They are basically saying if you buy a pass for 5 days, we'll make up any discount we give you on food and other things.

At the same time they want to discourage people from going just for a day or two.

If people can acquire a day or two from any source for free or at a discount, Disney has lost their leverage to encourage longer stays. This could theoretically have a significant impact on the average length of stay (and this would impact Disney's bottom line).

 

[DISUNC]

Actually they are out money because a three day pass is cheaper than a two day plus a one day. If you were to by a 6 day ticket use three days and give the other three to someone else Disney would make $196. However if you were to each by a 3 day ticket Disney would make $342. Thus disney is out money by people sharing tickets. Keeping people from sharing tickets is why disney was able to offer tickets that get much cheaper as you add days.

Also for your information the statute had nothing to do with disney but was put in place to stop sports ticket scalping.

I'm not selling my one day at a exorbitant price! Im giving it to someone! So therefore that law doesn't apply

 

[DISUNC]

The state law doesn't do anything other than give Disney ammo if they want to confiscate a pass or go after big operations. Even without the law, they are free to set any policy they want. If someone breaks the policy, they can bar admission, confiscate the pass and have no obligation to compensate the holder.

In terms of harm, I'll argue Disney's point of view. Disney makes discounts as encouragement to stay longer. If you stay longer, you are more likely to stay on site and not go off property for food or to visit other parks. They are basically saying if you buy a pass for 5 days, we'll make up any discount we give you on food and other things.

At the same time they want to discourage people from going just for a day or two.

If people can acquire a day or two from any source for free or at a discount, Disney has lost their leverage to encourage longer stays. This could theoretically have a significant impact on the average length of stay (and this would impact Disney's bottom line).

Ok!
Not that I ever did this. I use EVERY LAST DROP OF MY TICKETS>>>AND GIVE THEM TO NO ONE! However it seems like Disney is really inconviencing everyone (especially at crowded times) to save "potential" income.
To me it seems that this finger scanning is rather EXTREME measures, and VERY MUCH A HASSLE! Trust me....I lost many hours over this the past week.
Waiting on lines to get 'scanned" going back to the hotel desk to get new cards that were inactivated....UGH!

And my Hours are worth more to me than to WDW!

 

[DebbieB]

I'm not selling my one day at a exorbitant price! Im giving it to someone! So therefore that law doesn't apply

It says "non-transferrable" on the back, doesn't mention price.

 

[Irish9697]

We were there in January and I was the official holder of all 4 of our passes. Two for our kids so they were 3-9 year old passes, and two adult passes for us. They were MYW park hopper. We were required to use the scans each time we entered...however...we were NEVER asked to sign our cards, so we never did and never had any idea whose card was whose. I would just pop the kids' cards through first and then the first of the adult ones and scan my fingers. Dh would scan with the next one. Sometimes, my scan would work and dh's wouldn't. And, vice versa. Sometimes we both would work. Sometimes neither of us would work. In all of those cases, we got into the parks without a problem, no picture id required. Several times, we tried the scan again if it didn't initially work for one or both of us. If it didn't work again, they'd take a quick look at our pass and wave us through. No mention of picture id. I don't think it's some mysterious scientific scan. I think it's one method to help deter sharing passes...

One day we were questioned in more detail than the other...we spent the morning at Epcot and then headed to AK. We left Animal Kingdom around 4 that day. Went back to the hotel. Refreshed ourselves and signed the kids into Simba's Cubhouse there. Dh and I were at MGM by 5. Stayed there until closing at 6 and then headed to Magic Kingdom to take advantage of EMH. Because our passes had been used so many times so close together, it sent up some sort of error and the cm's questioned us. But, a simple explanation and no picture id and we were waved through.

 

[snowy76]

Sometimes we both would work. Sometimes neither of us would work. In all of those cases, we got into the parks without a problem, no picture id required.

It seems like CMs are given discretion to decide whether to ask for ID... or they just would rather not have the hassle all day, so they wave lots of people through. I'd imagine the CM probably looked at you and DH and figured, since you were married... you probably did the obvious thing, which was mix them up between the two of you. It doesn't seem like a CM would waste much time on something like that. However, it does point out that this bio system is like plugging up one hole in a sieve... stop one guest who seems to be using another's card, and the rest all walk in!

 

[Kycha]

Can anyone tell me if they do the finger scan when you use your "plus" options? We are planning to visit Pleasure Island with our Park Hopper plus options.

 

[snowy76]

We didn't need them at TL or DQ, so I'd assume it's the same at PI, as they're all single-entry places. Unlike the parks, you still get stamped to come back later.

 

[peter11435]

I'm not selling my one day at a exorbitant price! Im giving it to someone! So therefore that law doesn't apply

The law says nothing about price or sale. Just because it was intended to stop scalping does not mean it doesn't apply there as it states that all multi-day and multi-event ticket media must be used by the same person on any and all days.