Feel like I need to get off Disboards.

The only huge benefit for me to staying onsite is that I do not want to rent a car on vacation. I hate driving, I hate driving in unfamiliar areas, I hate navigating through crowds. It is worth the extra money to me to have a Disney bus pick me up and take me where I'm going, even if it takes a little longer. My sanity approves. :P

We're going to be in Orlando for four nights in October - two nights near the convention center for an event, and two nights on property. I guarantee you our two nights at ASMu will be cheaper than the two nights I spend near the convention center.

(I will miss POFQ, though. I just couldn't justify it for a short stay.)
 
Hmmmmmm, this thread has me thinking that maybe we should consider staying offsite next year. I like not having to drive, and I would LOVE to stay Deluxe on the monorail...but... I know DVC is not right for my family, and the age difference in my boys is so big that they want/need totally different experiences and room. Thanks, OP!! My DH will thank you, too, when he sees the money we'll save!
 
OP, I understand, it is sometimes easy to get in a funk when you are hearing about people staying in monorail resorts and club level, etc etc! I have to say though, this thread has made me even happier that we are staying offsite!

This is our first trip to WDW; me, dh, our 3 kids, sil, bil, and their 2 kids. We have however taken our kids to DLP twice when we lived in Europe. Talk about being immersed in the magic! Our resorts were a 10 minute walk from the parks, via pedestrian only walkways. We did not even see a single car or bus from the moment we checked in. It was like living on another planet and we loved it. Until our last night, when we were going back to the park for EMH. Our kids were a little tired so we decided to take the shuttle. Bad idea! Buses, cars, traffic lights ... it totally burst our little bubble! Our second trip, we decided to stick with walking so that we could maintain that illusion of being in our own little world:cool1:

So, there's no chance of having that kind of experience at WDW. Unless we stayed at a monorail resort and limited ourselves to MK, I guess. Then there's the cost of finding a comfortable room for a family of 5. Adding park hoppers to take advantage of EMH. Eating every meal at a restaurant.

We found a 5bed/5bath house in Windsor Hills for less than half of what we would have to pay onsite. The kids all have their own beds. We can eat a good breakfast in the house before leaving in the mornings. We don't have to wait for and ride on crowded buses. But to be honest, I think the biggest advantage is going to be driving the 15 minutes home at the end of a long day, pulling into our own driveway and walking straight into the house. No getting off the bus and facing another long walk through the resort to our rooms with 5 tired kids. :thumbsup2

I can't wait!
 
We stayed offsite and loved it! The room, the value, still had an amazing pool. N waiting for transportation, got in the car and went. I will be onside for the first time for 4 nights this fall at AoA. We will be going on a "dream trip" in four years or so hopefully, wanting to stay two weeks. We will still do one week offsite then split the rest between onside and universal I think. Both ways are probably just as fun!!!!!, and with some planning you don't have to worry about missing things....
 

We stayed off site for the first time last month.... Was able to stay 14 nights... Best DISNEY vacation ever.... Was able to relax and NOT feel rushed to do everything.... It was an amazing trip!
 
Staying on site carries with it sooo many benefits and that Disney ambience. Nothing like it and ONLY way to really do WDW. Yes off site is ok (if you must) but only to save a couple bucks. Not really saving that much once you add all that on property does for you.Many people just don't see the big picture. There will always be cheap hotels and if you don't mind wasting time driving and having NO EMH .That Disney first class service even if you are in the AllStars.AHHHHHH I feel the pampering right now !!:thumbsup2
 
WILDERNESS FAN 55 said:
Staying on site carries with it sooo many benefits and that Disney ambience. Nothing like it and ONLY way to really do WDW. Yes off site is ok (if you must) but only to save a couple bucks. Not really saving that much once you add all that on property does for you.Many people just don't see the big picture. There will always be cheap hotels and if you don't mind wasting time driving and having NO EMH .That Disney first class service even if you are in the AllStars.AHHHHHH I feel the pampering right now !!:thumbsup2

A couple bucks? Have you compared 2 weeks onsite vs 2 weeks at Windsor Hills?
waste time driving? 5 mins (we'll say 15 for argument sake). Vs...wait exactly how many busses passed you by because Tim and his family of 25 had to get on first with the wheelchair? Oh wait. EMH = busiest day in the park and a non recommended day.

Offsite looks glorious to me. Best thing is my kids will go to bed in their own room while my hubby and I get alone time with our private heated pool/hot tub while others are still waiting for the bus! ;-)

Sorry couldn't resist.

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A couple bucks? Have you compared 2 weeks onsite vs 2 weeks at Windsor Hills?
waste time driving? 5 mins (we'll say 15 for argument sake). Vs...wait exactly how many busses passed you by because Tim and his family of 25 had to get on first with the wheelchair? Oh wait. EMH = busiest day in the park and a non recommended day.

Offsite looks glorious to me. Best thing is my kids will go to bed in their own room while my hubby and I get alone time with our private heated pool/hot tub while others are still waiting for the bus! ;-)

Sorry couldn't resist.

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That's ok Disney accepts your money even if you stay offsite. In fact they count on it. Park my car for FREE at each park. Kick back in my heated pool at OKW then slip into the hot tub or maybe the sauna. Stroll back to my room with a MaiTai and wait ...maybe I'll go back to the parks .Late EMH are some of the easiest lines people ON PROPERTY can do all day!! Don't have to check the freeway conditions (Big backup on I-4) Drive my car OR take the bus (called options) My kids go to bed in their own room also .Or maybe they zip up to DTD on one of the boats. Relaxing ride ,beautiful night. Maybe take in the fireworks from the Poly Beach then take one of those nasty buses back to my villa.So many options...........:woohoo:
Sorry couldn't resist
Don't see the name Disney spelled out in windsor hills.
I have some friends who are also, shall we say, frugal.
 
WILDERNESS FAN 55 said:
That's ok Disney accepts your money even if you stay offsite. In fact they count on it. Park my car for FREE at each park. Kick back in my heated pool at OKW then slip into the hot tub or maybe the sauna. Stroll back to my room with a MaiTai and wait ...maybe I'll go back to the parks .Late EMH are some of the easiest lines people ON PROPERTY can do all day!! Don't have to check the freeway conditions (Big backup on I-4) Drive my car OR take the bus (called options) My kids go to bed in their own room also .Or maybe they zip up to DTD on one of the boats. Relaxing ride ,beautiful night. Maybe take in the fireworks from the Poly Beach then take one of those nasty buses back to my villa.So many options...........:woohoo:
Sorry couldn't resist
Don't see the name Disney spelled out in windsor hills.
I have some friends who are also, shall we say, frugal.

You call it frugal, I call it I have better things to spend my money on since i cant partake in the extra "perks" as you like to put it. My kids are 4. There's no late EMH for me. No hanging out at a resort pool late at night with 4 yr olds. Or leaving the kids somewhere while I head to poly beach. Maybe if my kids were older I'd see the value. But definitely not at this point in my life.

Oh but I forgot. If you don't stay on-site you arent worthy to the Disney gods. But don't forget. My money is as good as anyone else's there. After all they count on it. And yours too!!

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You will have an amazing time. We stayed off site for the first time ever spring break of 2012. We stayed 8 nights in a 5 br. pool home we rented at Windsor Hills. LOVED LOVED LOVED IT. We were close to the parks....had sooooooooo much space. We are DVC members too and stay on site all the time. We had made multiple trips that year because our dd was doing the Disney College program so we were low on points for a 2 br rental. It was fine!! SO fine......we are doing it again this year too. We are staying on points for 3 nights on property then moving to another 5 br. pool home for 8 nights. I don't mind staying off site at all. We grabbed a quick breakfast at the rental......then grabbed lunch in the parks. Some days we went back to the house and would eat out in town for dinner or we had ADR'S on property. We won't hesitate to stay off site in the future. You will have a MAGICAL TRIP no matter what. Don't over think this. ;)
 
edk35 said:
You will have an amazing time. We stayed off site for the first time ever spring break of 2012. We stayed 8 nights in a 5 br. pool home we rented at Windsor Hills. LOVED LOVED LOVED IT. We were close to the parks....had sooooooooo much space. We are DVC members too and stay on site all the time. We had made multiple trips that year because our dd was doing the Disney College program so we were low on points for a 2 br rental. It was fine!! SO fine......we are doing it again this year too. We are staying on points for 3 nights on property then moving to another 5 br. pool home for 8 nights. I don't mind staying off site at all. We grabbed a quick breakfast at the rental......then grabbed lunch in the parks. Some days we went back to the house and would eat out in town for dinner or we had ADR'S on property. We won't hesitate to stay off site in the future. You will have a MAGICAL TRIP no matter what. Don't over think this. ;)

Thanks for the great feedback. I'm excited to stay offsite!

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That's ok Disney accepts your money even if you stay offsite. In fact they count on it. Park my car for FREE at each park. Kick back in my heated pool at OKW then slip into the hot tub or maybe the sauna. Stroll back to my room with a MaiTai and wait ...maybe I'll go back to the parks .Late EMH are some of the easiest lines people ON PROPERTY can do all day!! Don't have to check the freeway conditions (Big backup on I-4) Drive my car OR take the bus (called options) My kids go to bed in their own room also .Or maybe they zip up to DTD on one of the boats. Relaxing ride ,beautiful night. Maybe take in the fireworks from the Poly Beach then take one of those nasty buses back to my villa.So many options...........:woohoo:
Sorry couldn't resist
Don't see the name Disney spelled out in windsor hills.
I have some friends who are also, shall we say, frugal.

Onsite, you can wait..... and wait..... and wait............. for a bus. Offsite you can walk to your car or hail a cab and get back to your room. Most places offsite have drinks. EMH is not all that fabulous. You and the other tens of thousands of guests get to share it together.
We are DVC members and if I'm out of points and want to go to Disney, we'll stay at the S/D, Bonnet Creek, or a Uni resort. All 3 are better deals and the Uni onsites are nicer than the WDW deluxes.
For those who don't have APs, compare a days parking to the difference in price between a WDW room and an offsite place. Over a week, someone can save at least several hundred and probably at least $1000 for nicer and roomier accommodations.
 
Onsite, you can wait..... and wait..... and wait............. for a bus.
Maybe it depends on where you stay? Or maybe what your definition of "wait and wait and wait" with lots of ellipses is? My last two trips I've stayed at POP, and I rarely recall waiting more than 10 minutes for a bus. And I can guarantee that I got to the parks faster than someone staying off site and waiting for a shuttle - most of which only run on scheduled intervals or might only drop off at the TTC. And yes, offsite, most people probably have a car, but that's either a rental ($20+ per day plus gas) or it's your own, which means you drove to Orlando (something I can do, too, but it would take me 3 days).

Offsite you can walk to your car or hail a cab and get back to your room.
You can hail a cab if you're onsite, too. You can rent a car or drive your own if you're onsite, too. Being able to call cabs or drive yourself is not a "benefit" or advantage of being offsite.

Most places offsite have drinks. EMH is not all that fabulous.
Drinks? :confused3

And I love EMH, getting to mill around the parks a couple extra hours at night, which is my favorite time. Epcot until 11, MK until 11 or 12 during the slow season when the parks would normally close around 9 is a wonderful benefit for me. Even if there are lots of people and still some long lines, I love being able to spend more time walking around at night - it lets me hit the attractions harder during the day, knowing I'll have those extra two hours to soak up the evening atmosphere at the EMH park that night.

But all of that aside, I stay onsite mostly for one reason, and that's because I feel like staying onsite is an extension of the parks. I might only get to go to WDW once every 3 or 4 years. I wouldn't dream of spending that time anywhere but in the heart of the magic. I feel so much more special at a WDW resort than I do in any hotel I've ever been in, and I've been in a couple really expensive hotels that were nice, but still didn't give me the feeling I get at a Disney Value resort.

We are DVC members and if I'm out of points and want to go to Disney, we'll stay at the S/D, Bonnet Creek, or a Uni resort. All 3 are better deals and the Uni onsites are nicer than the WDW deluxes.
Seriously, now? I've seen the Universal resorts. They're nice. They're also not nicer than the WDW deluxes.

The 2 queen bed rooms at the Portofino Bay (see pic below) are barely = WDW moderates. FQ's or POR's rooms are nicer. And it certainly does't compare to Poly, AKL, WL, GF...

I just now priced some rooms: Compare a $282/night Portofino Bay room to a $232/night room at POR, for the same dates in October:

Portofino Bay Garden View ($282 inc tax)
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Port Orleans Riverside Royal Guest Room ($232 inc tax - A river view room is $265 inc tax)
Here's a great video overview of the Royal Guest Rooms: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7sFvDptu-s
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Nicer than a WDW Deluxe? Seriously? Yes, Universal has their deluxe suites and whatnot that are better than the $280 rooms at Portofino - and some of them are upwards of $1,000. Is that really a better deal than WDW's Deluxes?

Look, I understand why people stay offsite. For many, it's simply a much better value. I consider it an incredibly smart decision if cost is a concern, because spending less money on your hotel means being able to stay longer and see more during your vacation. And for some, they're not fans of the theming of the value resorts. I totally understand it. But you don't need to justify staying offsite by exaggerating the bus wait times, implying that EMH has no value, or that Universal's onsites are some great bargain or nicer than WDW.
 
The good news is that you will still be able to have lunch at BOG without a reservation. We went in May and the line really is NOT that bad. It looks long, but it moved quickly. We lined up a bit before they opened. Pass the time people watching or strike up a conversation with a fellow Disney fan in line :) Admire the details outside of Beast's Castle.

As for the FP, you can still get them. Just go about your business in the parks as you would have if there were to be no Magic Band testing going on. My family was able to be a tester in a very early phase of FP Plus in 2012, and I can assure you that we did not disrupt any other vacationer's ability to get FP or have a great time!

Remember you are getting extra days at the world by staying off site. I'll be honest, staying onsite is my personal preference, but staying in a spacious villa for less than a value resort is pretty sweet. Free transportation around the parks/resorts is a great offering from Disney, but having a car and the freedom to go and do as you please is nice too. The major tangible things that you lose staying off site are Extra Magic Hours and the ability to use the dining plan - and you knew those going in, so I assume you are ok with that!

I have a friend who stays in a timeshare villa every trip and really doesn't even want to try staying on site, because they love it so much! Try not to be down about your vacation. I know you want it all to be perfect, but try to let go of the expectations that you might have built up reading things on the Dis, and just go and have a good time!
 
Well, for your family this mat be true. I bet many people would disagree with your assessment if their vacation.

So true... This offsite vs. onsite war kind of makes me sad.

I'm an onsite person all the way. I just can't bring myself to stay anywhere that's not imbued with the Disney touch.

But I know and fully appreciate that everyone is different. People have their own priorities, their own budgets, their own preferences. I'd never put someone down for staying offsite or try to make them feel inferior.

If I could afford it, I would stay at a Deluxe resort every time. I can't afford it. And I would hope that nobody staying at a Deluxe would tell me that staying at POP makes me less of a Disney fanatic or that I've never had a true Disney vacation until I stay at a Deluxe.

We should all just appreciate that we all have different ways of doing things and different things that we can or can't justify based on money, time, and many other factors. We shouldn't have to try and put down each other's choices in order to justify onsite vs. offsite.

I truly hope that all of us, no matter where we choose to stay, can have a wonderful, magical vacation @ WDW :wizard:
 
Sorry couldn't resist
Don't see the name Disney spelled out in windsor hills.
I have some friends who are also, shall we say, frugal.

Oh, I think you could have resisted the jab but you decided not to. I think that your decision to ridicule lodging decisions that do not mirror yours is disrespectful, and reduces what had been a thoughtful discussion to a "my ball is bigger than your ball" playground argument.

I get that you like onsite resorts. I do as well, but how can you or I or anyone else determine if this is the best decision for other families, and then dump it all in the "Frugal :scared1:" pot? You cannot. I have a friend who can buy and sel; all of my worldly goods several time over, and she would no more stay in a WDW resort than she would perform her own root canal. Not her thing. Period. Disney found a way to capture guests lodging and meal money but their resorts and restaurants often leave families with more than 4 people compromising a lot in order to stay onsite. Let's face it, WDW are convenient, but for many families, those over 4 people in particular, they have nothing to offer that would in any way justify the cost.

If you want to add to the conversation, it is possible to point out the benefits of WDW onsite lodging without insulting those who do not agree with your choice. And when folks point out their own reasons, maybe take those reasons at face value.

But all of that aside, I stay onsite mostly for one reason, and that's because I feel like staying onsite is an extension of the parks. I might only get to go to WDW once every 3 or 4 years. I wouldn't dream of spending that time anywhere but in the heart of the magic. I feel so much more special at a WDW resort than I do in any hotel I've ever been in, and I've been in a couple really expensive hotels that were nice, but still didn't give me the feeling I get at a Disney Value resort.



Look, I understand why people stay offsite. For many, it's simply a much better value. I consider it an incredibly smart decision if cost is a concern, because spending less money on your hotel means being able to stay longer and see more during your vacation. And for some, they're not fans of the theming of the value resorts. I totally understand it. But you don't need to justify staying offsite by exaggerating the bus wait times, implying that EMH has no value, or that Universal's onsites are some great bargain or nicer than WDW.

I think that people felt the need to justify their decisions after a poster ridiculed their choices. There are many reasons why a family would choose to stay offsite, and as you said, value is a key factor. And value is not necessarily tied to money. And I do want to say that there have been times when those buses were a real problem, and we had to call a cab. But...........we had a time or two when calling was not an option, and getting back to the resort was a bear. You do not want to get stuck in FW.............just sayin'
 
I agree about value vs being able to afford it. Some of these 2 and 3 bdrm Windsor Hills places are only $89-99 a night. That's $700 per week for a family of 5 or 6. To me that's a bargain.

Personally until my kids are older I will not stay onsite. Something about eating restaurant food for 14 nights upsets my stomach lol.

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