Fastpasses beyond window...

[Malela9]

I have never been turned away from a FP line because of the earlier time on the pass. I use passes like this all the time at Disneyland/California Adventure. I have done it at WDW too! ( I will be doing it again in a few weeks in Florida!)
Seriously, this is the only way to get things done at the parks. Just don't let the secret out of the Disboards! LOL!

 

[Robo]

I have never been turned away from a FP line because of the earlier time on the pass. I use passes like this all the time at Disneyland/California Adventure.

Yup.

There is much more "guest awareness" about this FP "feature" in Anaheim.

 

[Tomh]

Sounds like blatant rule breaking to me - very akin to holding a table at counter service or cutting in line after taking baby to potty!

Rule breaking is when you are doing something that is against the rules, forbidden. Since Disney allows people to return past the window (and they do ALLOW it, there is a CM at the fast pass entrance of every ride that COULD refuse entry), it is quite hard to argue that a rule is being broken. Disney creates the rules, so if they are allowing people to return past the window, then that is their rule, nothing being broken.

 

[Robo]

I believe leahjade was just makin' a li'l joke.

 

[cigar95]

it's not a matter of organizing a flash mob to do it, and I don't mean it all has to take place at precisely 2 pm, just that the FP lines can and do occasionally get overflowed.

granted managers can control the FP distribution rate flow to compensate

The flip side of this scenario (admittedly an exaggerated one to make a point, I presume) is that if all the FP holders waited, then the standby line would flow much faster than normal. As a result, when the flood of FP holders arrive, the standby line would be much shorter than normal, so that a larger-than-normal "mix" of FP holders could be sent through, and the line would dissipate faster then normal.

This isn't quite the dream scenario that I'm making it sound like, because everything has a consequence - as the standby line moves more quickly, that encourages more people to enter it who would otherwise have seen it as "too long" and gone elsewhere. So while it would be shorter than normal at 2pm, it wouldn't be enough shorter to completely offset *all* the now-arriving FP holders.

(Gosh, there *are* advantages to having degrees in the sciences. You can think up weird stuff like this.)

 

[Robo]

...when the flood of FP holders arrive, the standby line would be much shorter than normal, so that a larger-than-normal "mix" of FP holders could be sent through, and the line would dissipate faster then normal.

It actually works "that way" all the time.

If there are a LOT of FP holders in the FP line, the CM who takes the FP's near the loading area can just hold the Standby Line guests longer, and board mostly from the FP line.

It's an "adjustable mix" at all times.

Suffice it to say that if such a thing as "everybody with a morning FP arrives at X time," it would not happen often enough to be of much concern, anyway.
And, remember, that if if DID happen at say, Splash Mountain, it would NOT be happening at all of the other attractions at the same time.
There would be guests riding normally all over the park.

The system is pretty "bullet proof."

 

[chefmb]

Got back last week, and we used some of our FP's beyond the "window" of return. Most of the time it was when we went back to the hotel due to rain or just needing a break from the heat and our return time was late afternoon/early evening. Had 2 CM's tell me that it's no problem. One went so far as to say that as long as it was after the starting time to return, you can come back at any time. I felt much better doing it after he told me that because I did kind of feel like I was cheating. Really made our days easier when we weren't planning around FP!

 

[BarbieGal457]

Yup! I've done this quite a few times before. Once we held onto our SM FPs for after dinner when we returned to the park, and the standby line was well over 100 minutes! We walked right on! As PPs have said, it's not guaranteed, but generally works!

 

[doconeill]

it's not a matter of organizing a flash mob to do it, and I don't mean it all has to take place at precisely 2 pm, just that the FP lines can and do occasionally get overflowed.

granted managers can control the FP distribution rate flow to compensate

Actually, this happens ALL THE TIME. And it doesn't require organization of a flash mob or anything like that (but it gives me some ideas for my next trip...DIS MOBS ATTACK TSM!), but simply a breakdown of the attraction for a few hours. Once it opens, so does the flood of people into the FP and standby lines...

Sounds like blatant rule breaking to me - very akin to holding a table at counter service or cutting in line after taking baby to potty!

You may be kidding, but it is in fact just the opposite. It's kind of like getting an ADR for noon, but the saying, "you know what, I'm not hungry just yet, so let someone else sit now, and I'll wait..."

Time to post this...save it for when you can't sleep :

Why using a late FASTPASS doesn't matter!

 

[Robo]

(but it gives me some ideas for my next trip...DIS MOBS ATTACK TSM!)

DOG BITES MAN, as headlines go.

(Who'd notice?)

 

[leahjade]

Now I'm bummed that on our last trip, I threw out all our fast passes when I couldn't be at the attraciton at the designated time! We could have fit a lot more in that trip if I'd known this little secret!