Everything Genie, Genie+ and Individual Lightning Lane - Please Read Posts 1-7

[g-dad66]

Have a specific question about morning touring at AK. Heading down next week from Boston for short trip with a friend. We plan to hit AK for early resort entry on Fri 10/21, morning only. I want to get her an ILL$ for FOP (I need to pass). It looks like we’ll be taking an Uber around 7 AM from VGF to be there for 7:30 opening. If I can’t get on MDE app right at 7 AM do you think there will still be FOP ILL$’s for morning times around 7:30?

Also, am I correct in remembering that you can buy an ILL$ without buying G+ for the day? If that’s the case we may try to do our other top items without it (between 7:30 AM and 12 noon).

Without G+, what order would you attempt these, for morning completion, to minimize wait times?

- Safari
- Kali River Rapids
- Festival of Lion King
- Navi (not a must do)
- FOP (only if we get an ILL$ for her)

Many thanks!

Safari and Kali won't be open yet at 7:30. If you buy ILL$ for FOP, then Navi is your only choice for 7:30, and you should be able to walk right on, even if you're as late as 7:55 when you get to it.

Safari should start running soon after 8:00, and I would recommend going on it after Navi. Kali may not start running until 9:00. To minimize the wait for Kali, I would go to Kali after the Safari (by 10:00 today, the Kali wait was almost an hour).

There are Lion King shows at 10:00 and at 11:00. Which one you attend will be determined by what time you get your FOP ILL$ for (you'll want your FOP ILL$ somewere in the 9:30 to 11:30 time period).

This plan will have you trekking from Pandora to Africa to Asia, then back to Pandora/Africa, but my preference is always for extra walking rather than extra waiting in Standby lines.

Yes, you can purchase ILL$ without purchasing G+.

 

[Boardwalk III]

Safari and Kali won't be open yet at 7:30. If you buy ILL$ for FOP, then Navi is your only choice for 7:30, and you should be able to walk right on, even if you're as late as 7:55 when you get to it.

Safari should start running soon after 8:00, and I would recommend going on it after Navi. Kali may not start running until 9:00. To minimize the wait for Kali, I would go to Kali after the Safari (by 10:00 today, the Kali wait was almost an hour).

There are Lion King shows at 10:00 and at 11:00. Which one you attend will be determined by what time you get your FOP ILL$ for (you'll want your FOP ILL$ somewere in the 9:30 to 11:30 time period).

This plan will have you trekking from Pandora to Africa to Asia, then back to Pandora/Africa, but my preference is always for extra walking rather than extra waiting in Standby lines.

Yes, you can purchase ILL$ without purchasing G+.

Thank you so much - super helpful and just what I needed!

 

[leiaorgana]

Apparently Genie+ will be getting a variable price increase based on how busy it is from October 11 with busier days going up to $22.

https://blogmickey.com/2022/10/breaking-disney-genie-pricing-will-now-vary-by-date-at-disney-world/

 

[romanr27]

Apparently Genie+ will be getting a variable price increase based on how busy it is from October 11 with busier days going up to $22.

https://blogmickey.com/2022/10/breaking-disney-genie-pricing-will-now-vary-by-date-at-disney-world/

Same with ILL, for example ROTR may be up to $22: https://wdwnt.com/2022/10/breaking-...ne-access-prices-will-increase-based-on-date/

 

[xdan0920]

Same with ILL, for example ROTR may be up to $22: https://wdwnt.com/2022/10/breaking-...ne-access-prices-will-increase-based-on-date/

$88 for a family of 4. wow.

 

[SLThomas318]

$88 for a family of 4. wow.

+ another $88 if you want regular genie+ for the day (assuming it is a $22 day)... so $176 on top of your park ticket to *hopefully* skip the line on a few rides. ouch! It isn't so much the extra cost that kills me, it's that it is a crappy product that they are now charging even more for.

 

[Gentry2004]

Oh yeah. Just in time for our mid December trip, which I'm sure will be more than $15/person.

 

[leeniewdw]

There used to be a Genie+ "strategy" thread. Is that still active? Or is this the thread to ask about an 'approach' on a given day/park plan?

 

[elgerber]

+ another $88 if you want regular genie+ for the day (assuming it is a $22 day)... so $176 on top of your park ticket to *hopefully* skip the line on a few rides. ouch! It isn't so much the extra cost that kills me, it's that it is a crappy product that they are now charging even more for.

Doing it with no advance notice is not cool. If a family is there now, and they had a budget, which included $15 for Genie, and now it's $22 on the morning of?
I'm guessing you now don't know the price until you start the purchase process each morning? I will buy it anyway because I am like that, but still, not cool.

 

[leeniewdw]

Doing it with no advance notice is not cool. If a family is there now, and they had a budget, which included $15 for Genie, and now it's $22 on the morning of?
I'm guessing you now don't know the price until you start the purchase process each morning? I will buy it anyway because I am like that, but still, not cool.

We already paid our G+ feed with our booking for next month, but if we end up with 2 ILLs at max price for 6 people on our trip next month, it's $264 before tax lolol. It's too late now, but we joked about our per day spending when we're there (we're bring adult kids + SOs and paying) and on our AK/EP day with 2 ILLs + F&W -- it's a ridiculous amount of money for 1 day and that's AFTER the cost of getting in and sleeping. We're idiots, but this trip was conjured up before the pandemic and delayed twice.

 

[Tom_E_D]

It looks like those people who bought Genie+ with their tickets back when that was allowed made a wise investment.

 

[Ursula J]

+ another $88 if you want regular genie+ for the day (assuming it is a $22 day)... so $176 on top of your park ticket to *hopefully* skip the line on a few rides. ouch! It isn't so much the extra cost that kills me, it's that it is a crappy product that they are now charging even more for.

THIS^^^ Give me a great product and I'll pay. Don't try to manipulate me into buying something terrible that may or may not even help much.

 

[Gentry2004]

This should suprise exactly no one. I'm only shocked they didn't raise the price on ALL days.

 

[nlenguyen]

I will see this as a way to deter people from buying. That can cost over $150 now for a family of 4 to just do HS (G+ and ROTR)

 

[scrappinginontario]

Please take the discussion about the price increase to the thread dedicated to the recently announced, tiered pricing as the intent of this thread is re: using Genie+?

After this, discussion about pricing changes will be removed.

Thanks so much!

 

[Disney.fan]

Did I hear that LL's booked between 7-7:30am do not give you a return time until you confirm/submit? What happens if it is during a ADR? Do you only know return times if waiting until 7:30 to book? Thanks!

 

[LisaRay]

I have a LL question that I can't figure out.
We went in March which is before they started hiding the booking times from 7:00-7:30. But we are going again next week.
So now for example if I want to book Slinky I can't see what time I'm booking it for, but we are park hopping to MK that evening so I would only want a LL if it fits in our schedule.
Same could be said for our Epcot day with Remy we will not be hoping that day but are planning a break at the resort.
How can this possibly work out if these rides sell out quickly and I can't see what time I am booking?

 

[justme0729]

Can you clarify that if our goal isn't to stack with genie + and we just want to book things as often as possible, we are able to schedule the next lightening lane after tapping into the current LL genie + reservation? We don't have to wait 2 hours?

 

[NJlauren]

Can you clarify that if our goal isn't to stack with genie + and we just want to book things as often as possible, we are able to schedule the next lightening lane after tapping into the current LL genie + reservation? We don't have to wait 2 hours?

Correct.

You book first pass at 7, park opens at 9, you use the pass at 930, can book the next LL right away, I start refreshing/searching right after I tap in (2nd tap for some rides)

 

[leeniewdw]

I have a LL question that I can't figure out.
We went in March which is before they started hiding the booking times from 7:00-7:30. But we are going again next week.
So now for example if I want to book Slinky I can't see what time I'm booking it for, but we are park hopping to MK that evening so I would only want a LL if it fits in our schedule.
Same could be said for our Epcot day with Remy we will not be hoping that day but are planning a break at the resort.
How can this possibly work out if these rides sell out quickly and I can't see what time I am booking?

I'm in the same boat, not having experienced the new 7-730 experience. Can I click the ride and THEN it shows me? Then I can back out and try again? We have a 4 hour window for our arrival day and I'm not sure I understand how easy (or not) it will be to find times that match that window, even if I start with the ride I *think* will be the first into that window.