Every guest entering at IG went through metal detector

[DLM1980]

I found your tone condescending ("little Johnny"??? "Paranoid", etc). Incredibly so.

The one thing that I hate about text messages and the internet forums instead of face to face conversation is you can't ever uncover the tone of a message. What one person things is condescending might not have been the authors intent.

The use of emoticons might have helped but even those are overused

anding LOL to the sentence might have helped but then it might have been seen as sarcasm


Let's not go down this rabbit hole

 

[BelleBee]

Let's not make a big deal about "the children are separated from their parents." It's not like they took the children into a separate room on the other side of Disney. People can't be that paranoid if they can't see their child for a few seconds (who is standing with a guard). I am guessing they could probably still see their parents but the parent just had to go thru the detector. If little Johnny is going to get that shaken up, maybe one parent can stay behind with the child while the other goes thru and then the child can go meet the parent on the other side of the detector.

You just said you demand your husband carries a gun whenever he takes your children in public. Who's paranoid?

 

[BelleBee]

Well Disney Springs nor the resorts can hold the capacity of crowds that the parks can.

You're not going to lose your child - it's for your security and theirs. This is 2016 this is well beyond needed.

If people only knew what a hot target Disney is, and if this, even for face value makes a terrorist or crazy person think of it as a deterrent then job well done.

We take our safety for granted - Disney is a hot target.

I understand perfectly well what a target Disney is, which is why I also perfectly understand none of these new 'security' measures actually do anything other than inconvenience guests.

 

[BigAlsGal]

I'll be there in a few days. I'll pay extra attention to how things are being handled and give the best info I can.

 

[newdeal]

well I guess whoever wants to bring a gun into the park to terrorize people will just make sure their kid has it

 

[sunsetbeachgal]

I'll be there in a few days. I'll pay extra attention to how things are being handled and give the best info I can.

Thank you. Much more helpful than some of the other comments on this thread!

 

[BelleBee]

Thank you. Much more helpful than some of the other comments on this thread!

I'll be there in a few days. I'll pay extra attention to how things are being handled and give the best info I can.

I'll be there in less than a week. If it is still as random as people are reporting, info from person to person is going to be different.

 

[AngiTN]

Not condescending. I am sure Disney is not taking away a small child from their parent(s) and keeping them separated for any amount of time. Do you really think Disney would do this? My children go thru the metal detectors alone and I am on the other side and they just stand there and wait for a minute or two. I am sure if there was a single parent there with a child and they told the guard there was no one to stay behind with the child, I am sure they would figure something out, Disney is beyond kid friendly.

Disney is beyond kid friendly. These security guards not so much. And if the guard had a kid that was a runner it would have been a problem. No one else could have gone after the child and watched the other children. I'm not sure the way they did things at IG are how Disney intended it to go. Still no explanation for the kids to be pulled from the line. Why not scan them?

 

[book_junkie]

I am here now and was pulled at DHS to go through them, but they made my daughter go as well.

Just curious, did you use the main entrance (where the buses drop you off) or the little side one (the small checkgate by guest services on the outside of the park)?

When I went the other day with friends, we went through the small checkgate and they scanned all of us. I didn't think much of it at the time, but in light of the IG stuff, I wonder if for some weird reason they're scanning everyone who goes through the smaller gates? Only HS and Epcot have them to my knowledge...

 

[Mkrop]

Just curious, did you use the main entrance (where the buses drop you off) or the little side one (the small checkgate by guest services on the outside of the park)?

When I went the other day with friends, we went through the small checkgate and they scanned all of us. I didn't think much of it at the time, but in light of the IG stuff, I wonder if for some weird reason they're scanning everyone who goes through the smaller gates? Only HS and Epcot have them to my knowledge...

I would think they are testing the smaller volume entries.

I am gonna agree that this security is probably long overdue but with that being said you think a place like WDW would have been anticipating this and had their act together, which i feel is not the case based on these accounts.

And I also am going to agree that they are creating more unsafe conditions by creating these bottlenecks. These are making these areas more vulnerable for someone who wants to do harm. There are also the means of transportation that are vulnerable and the resorts as well. All someone who intends to hurt people and to hurt WDW is to find one of these vulnerable spots like the ferry or the monorail, or a resort during pool time etc. They want to cause harm and terror and use a iconic place to do it, it doesnt have to be in a park for that to happen

 

[Dan Murphy]

You just said you demand your husband carries a gun whenever he takes your children in public.

There are so many placed that do not allow guns....schools, hospitals, movie theaters, most restaurants, WDW, etc., etc.

 

[BelleBee]

There are so many placed that do not allow guns....schools, hospitals, movie theaters, most restaurants, WDW, etc., etc.

Oh, she specifically mentions movie theaters as being one of the places *she* requires her husband to carry a gun when he takes her children.

 

[Dan Murphy]

Oh, she specifically mentions movie theaters as being one of the places *she* requires her husband to carry a gun when he takes her children.

I think most movie theaters, at least around here in the Chicago area, are gun free, happily so.

 

[BelleBee]

I think most movie theaters, at least around here in the Chicago area, are gun free, happily so.

Yes, they are pretty much everywhere. But as you can see, it doesn't mean people obey the law.

 

[Bullseye]

Rather than speculate, here is an article from Jim Hill including cast member and tourist accounts of what happened at Disney World on 9/11.

Wow, huge lump in my throat reading that article. Chilling accounts.

 

[kandb]

You just said you demand your husband carries a gun whenever he takes your children in public. Who's paranoid?

REREAD my post. I never said he takes it at all times in public, even though with whats going on in this country, I believe anyone that has a carry permit should willfully carry. My husband has been trained with firearms and supervises all new employees and trains them at the firing range. Yes, I absolutely feel better if he carries a firearm. No, I have small children and would not feel alarmed if they had to wait for me on the other side of the metal detector and were out of my site for a very short time. Like I said before, WDW is not going to let guards that are strangers watch small children that they don't even know. If a parent had a problem with this in the least, I am sure they would improvise for the parent.

 

[kandb]

I found your tone condescending ("little Johnny"??? "Paranoid", etc). Incredibly so. You are advising people based on nothing but your assumptions of how you think they will handle things, when the truth is no one knows. It seems to be very fluid. What is being described here is not the kids simply being a foot or two ahead of the parents. What I do know is that I, and many others, will not be separated from my children, full stop. I don't have to explain my reasons, but for some children this can be extremely traumatic and not something one wants to experiece on vacation. Kindly remember that not all families are like yours, and not all children are developmentally typical. You should refrain from expressing the judgement you clearly feel.

I am SURE if you told the guard that your child would get upset if they were separated from you they would make provisions. I am sure that the children/adults the OP saw separated, were not impacted negatively. I think for "most" children, a few minutes separated from their parents, especially if the parent said to wait on the side while they went thru the detector, would be OK. I totally get that different children have different needs and that is fine, they all develop differently. My point is that Disney would work with the parent if this was the case. I VERY much doubt Disney would want a child traumatized by this procedure.

 

[BelleBee]

My husband carries a gun for his job. When he brings my children to a movie theater, I always make him bring his gun. I hope they have armed guards at Disney. "Gun free zones" don't work, look at Paris.

REREAD my post. I never said he takes it at all times in public, even though with whats going on in this country, I believe anyone that has a carry permit should willfully carry. My husband has been trained with firearms and supervises all new employees and trains them at the firing range. Yes, I absolutely feel better if he carries a firearm. No, I have small children and would not feel alarmed if they had to wait for me on the other side of the metal detector and were out of my site for a very short time. Like I said before, WDW is not going to let guards that are strangers watch small children that they don't even know. If a parent had a problem with this in the least, I am sure they would improvise for the parent.

I read it correctly the first time.

 

[Angel Ariel]

Like I said before, WDW is not going to let guards that are strangers watch small children that they don't even know

The company currently running the metal detectors, as I've understood the posts, is a 3rd party contractor, not Disney employees. No company is foolproof. Not even Disney.

 

[vinotinto]

Just curious, those of you that are questioning separating kids from parents, how do you go through airport security? It's pretty standard to allow only one person to go through at a time. They usually send the kids ahead and then I walk through.

I would hope that if they decide to implement metal detectors, whether a test or everyone goes through it, that they have a sufficient number of them, but something tells me we'll be needing to arrive very early for rope drop.