Enforce transfer points

[myip]

Does DVC enforce transfer of DVC points only once per use year?

 

[doubletrouble_vb]

yes..

 

[keishashadow]

Has it been determined as to whether it's

1/member/year

1/contract #/year

 

[Judy WI]

I have 2 contracts. I made a ressie and MS tranfered the points out of one into the other of this stay.

I called yesterday to see if I could get points from someone else transfered into either contract to add to my point balance for another trip this summer. MS told me that the two were locked now and no new transfers in or out will be allowed with those two. I can make a ressie with the points I have left, a cash night if needed, but no new points transferred in or out.

 

[DisneyBill]

Just curious, why would MS have to transfer the points from 1 contract to another to make the reservation? Wouldn't they just be able to use from each contract the number of points needed for the ressie? Were you a partial day short on one contract, triggering the transfer?

 

[senecabeach]

I'm certainly happy with them monitoring this with a microscope.

It should be a breeze for us "small resort owners" to get our ressies within the 8, 9, 10 mo. window without worrying about those who "massage" the system!!

 

[Deb & Bill]

Just curious, why would MS have to transfer the points from 1 contract to another to make the reservation? Wouldn't they just be able to use from each contract the number of points needed for the ressie? Were you a partial day short on one contract, triggering the transfer?

I needed to add one night at the BCV in June. It was 56 points. I had 53 points left in my one contract that I wanted to use. So I transferred 3 points from another contract into the small contract so I could add that one night. You can't mix points from one contract or another for a single night. You have to transfer or borrow to get enough.

 

[Judy WI]

I have 2 contracts for HHI - one is Feb and one is March. (they took the Feb one and put in into March so I used the 11 month from my March contract) Months are so close and same resort so no question with the transfer changing UY or resorts. Not much of a problem but does lock them in to the one tranfer in/out. If I didn't have a large family gathering planned for Aug that I would like to use with a DVC resort wouldn't be any problem.

 

[Chuck S]

I have 2 contracts for HHI - one is Feb and one is March. (they took the Feb one and put in into March so I used the 11 month from my March contract) Months are so close and same resort so no question with the transfer changing UY or resorts. Not much of a problem but does lock them in to the one tranfer in/out. If I didn't have a large family gathering planned for Aug that I would like to use with a DVC resort wouldn't be any problem.

But the 11 month window has nothing to do with use year month, you could have boked part of your stay with the Feb contract and part with the March contract without transferring, except as a previous poster said, if you had only enough points in both contracts for a partial day.

 

[shellbelle1971]

I have 2 contracts. I made a ressie and MS tranfered the points out of one into the other of this stay.

I called yesterday to see if I could get points from someone else transfered into either contract to add to my point balance for another trip this summer. MS told me that the two were locked now and no new transfers in or out will be allowed with those two. I can make a ressie with the points I have left, a cash night if needed, but no new points transferred in or out.

Now I'm confused! We are buying a second, small contract via resale (with a different UY than our original contract.) Help me understand how making ressies will work. Will we always have to transfer points between the two contracts? Not that I wouldn't be able to manage that, it just makes it a bit more complicated. (And DH thinks half the reason I love DVC is that I enjoy the "plotting & scheming" involved with point management LOL!)

Seriously, though, I was under the impression that we would simply be able to combine points from the two contracts when making a reservation at the 7-month mark. Is that incorrect?

 

[Deb & Bill]

Now I'm confused! We are buying a second, small contract via resale (with a different UY than our original contract.) Help me understand how making ressies will work. Will we always have to transfer points between the two contracts? Not that I wouldn't be able to manage that, it just makes it a bit more complicated. (And DH thinks half the reason I love DVC is that I enjoy the "plotting & scheming" involved with point management LOL!)

Seriously, though, I was under the impression that we would simply be able to combine points from the two contracts when making a reservation at the 7-month mark. Is that incorrect?

You can use both contracts at 7 months. You just have to use one or the other for single days. You can't use points from both contracts for a single day.

 

[shellbelle1971]

You can use both contracts at 7 months. You just have to use one or the other for single days. You can't use points from both contracts for a single day.

Okay, let me make sure I understand this correctly...(I've never been good at math! )

If I have:
50 banked 2006 VB points
50 2007 VB points
67 banked 2006 SSR points
241 2007 SSR points
82 OKW 2007 points transferred in to my SSR contract.

And the ressies I want (all for Oct. 2007) are:
2 studios at OKW for 7 nights (82 pts per week)
2 weeknights @ VB in a 2-br. (24 pts per night)
2 weekend nights and 4 weeknights @ OKW in a 2-br. (208 points)

The way I will need to do this to avoid losing 2 2006 banked VB points is:
Book 1 studio @ OKW using the 82 transferred points. (11 month window)
Book 2 VB nights using 48 (of 50) banked 2006 points. (11 month window)
Book 1 weeknight of second OKW studio using 2 banked 2006 VB points plus 6 2007 VB points (7 month window)
Book remaining six nights of second OKW studio using 67 banked 2006 SSR points plus 7 2007 SSR points (7 month window)
Book 2 weekend nights and 4 weeknights in OKW 2-br using 208 2007 SSR points (7 month window)

This leaves me
44 VB 2007 points (bankable) and
26 SSR 2007 points (bankable)

Right? (I think my head is going to explode.)
Thanks for all your help!

 

[Judy WI]

you could have boked part of your stay with the Feb contract and part with the March contract without transferring, .

I called MS and told them what days I wanted (It was 8 months out) and MS did the transfer. Ms put me on hold and when she came back said all set. My first call to MS so didn't know what to ask for. When I checked the web site I saw they did the transfers. Now I see I could have made half the stay with the first contract and the second half of the stay with the second contract. Which I am sure (hope) they would have linked together. Next time I will know to watch that a little more.

 

[LisaS]

Now I'm confused! We are buying a second, small contract via resale (with a different UY than our original contract.) Help me understand how making ressies will work. Will we always have to transfer points between the two contracts? Not that I wouldn't be able to manage that, it just makes it a bit more complicated. (And DH thinks half the reason I love DVC is that I enjoy the "plotting & scheming" involved with point management LOL!)

Seriously, though, I was under the impression that we would simply be able to combine points from the two contracts when making a reservation at the 7-month mark. Is that incorrect?

You can only combine the points if the contracts are the same Use Year (and list the same names on the deed) and are set up in the DVC system as a master contract and an add-on to that master contract (same base contract number with ".0" extension for the master and ".1" for the first add-on). In that case, you have a pool of points that you can draw from when making a reservation. For example, if you are booking a night in a studio that costs 12 points you could use 2 points from the master contract and 10 from the add-on contract to pay for it.

If you have two master contracts (which you will with different Use Years) you can still use points from both contracts to make a reservation but cannot split the cost of one night between two contracts. You can combine the points by transferring points from one master contract to another but with the "one transfer per master contract" rule, you would use up your one transfer on both contracts by doing so.

 

[shellbelle1971]

Lisa, Deb&Bill,
Thank you so much for the information! I think I understand now. Would my ressie scenario posted above work?
Michelle

 

[Deb & Bill]

Lisa, Deb&Bill,
Thank you so much for the information! I think I understand now. Would my ressie scenario posted above work?
Michelle

I read it a few times and I think what you have planned should work out fine.

 

[RweTHEREyet]

I have a friend that has some points that will expire the end of this month. If I have them transferred to my contract that has a September USe Year, are they still November Use Year points or would they be valid until next August?

I know that at one time, transferred points took on the properties of the contract they were transferred to, is that still the case?

 

[Deb & Bill]

I have a friend that has some points that will expire the end of this month. If I have them transferred to my contract that has a September USe Year, are they still November Use Year points or would they be valid until next August?

I know that at one time, transferred points took on the properties of the contract they were transferred to, is that still the case?

Transferred points maintain their resort and use year. They will still expire at the end of the month because it is too late to bank them.

 

[Chuck S]

Transferred points maintain their resort and use year. They will still expire at the end of the month because it is too late to bank them.

Not only that, but the September contract is in the 2006 use year, and the December contract is in the 2005 use year. All transfers must be between the same use year.

 

[Dean]

Has it been determined as to whether it's

1/member/year

1/contract #/year

It's per master contract one per USE YEAR in one direction.

Now I'm confused! We are buying a second, small contract via resale (with a different UY than our original contract.) Help me understand how making ressies will work. Will we always have to transfer points between the two contracts? Not that I wouldn't be able to manage that, it just makes it a bit more complicated. (And DH thinks half the reason I love DVC is that I enjoy the "plotting & scheming" involved with point management LOL!)

Seriously, though, I was under the impression that we would simply be able to combine points from the two contracts when making a reservation at the 7-month mark. Is that incorrect?

It will take some accounting but you will get used to it. You should rarely need to to transfers in this situation, the exception might be for cruises, CC or the like.

I have a friend that has some points that will expire the end of this month. If I have them transferred to my contract that has a September USe Year, are they still November Use Year points or would they be valid until next August?

I know that at one time, transferred points took on the properties of the contract they were transferred to, is that still the case?

As we've discussed a couple of times recently, it remains to be seen. I know what the rules say and you'll get them quoted, reality is often different. The reality is that there are no guarantees but it is likely they will attain your use year and home resort and that the holding status will fade away as part of the process. I know some have said otherwise, but you should be able to transfer them to your 2005 use year in this situation even though they are 2006 points. If they will expire otherwise, give it a try and see what happens then let us know back. The only requirement is that they are usable during the same time frame not necessarily that they are the same use year. If you transfer June points to Dec use year you can actually chose which use year given the proper circumstances.

So if the points are going to expire anyway, just go through the transfer process. When they quote the rules, say OK and don't even worry about it and don't even discuss if further. Then in a couple of days call back and see if you can use those points and see what they tell you. And let us know back what they say if you do this.