eBay FastPass auction?

[DisGirl1971]

Not bragging about it and have not done it since.

No worse then people who come back whenever they please instead of their designated return time.

Really? You don't see the difference? Cause there's a really big difference in these two scenarios.

 

[DisGirl1971]

Isn't the whole point of having return times to spread out the guest return times. If everyone just returned whenever they like, doesn't that just reduce the FP line to just another line with long lines? I on't think I get it.

It's not hard to get. It's Disney policy to accept Fastpasses anytime after the return time printed on the Fastpass until the close of the park day. It is NOT Disney policy to accept Invalid Fastpass receipts mixed in with actual Fastpasses. Seems pretty straight forward to me.

 

[dmband]

Really? You don't see the difference? Cause there's a really big difference in these two scenarios.

Sure there is a difference but not in the end
The end is that the fp procedure and point doesn't work because in both cases people are joining the line at times they are not suppose to

 

[Scraper]

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[mom2rtk]

Hey...look at this way.

We made it (almost) an entire month into 2012 before the inevitable Fastpass debate thread appeared....is that a record??!!

I'm sure that's only because the servers are so slow nobody wanted to get into a heated debate and risk not being able to reply quickly!

 

[mesaboy2]

Sure there is a difference but not in the end
The end is that the fp procedure and point doesn't work

News flash! FP doesn't work! Disney to pull popular system and return to long waits for all!

because in both cases

In your case, people were were explicitly cheating the system using the Disney equivalent of slugs in a coin slot.

people are joining the line at times they are not suppose to

According to who? Disney's guidance to its own CMs says otherwise. The wording on Disney's FP--front and back--also does not say you cannot return after the window, only that you cannot return before.

I ain't skeered.

 

[MaleficentRN]

Did the seller list them as an item that could be used during a future visit to WDW? Or did they list them as a collectable or scrapbook item?

 

[WillAustin]

Sure there is a difference but not in the end
The end is that the fp procedure and point doesn't work because in both cases people are joining the line at times they are not suppose to

There are a number of past threads about the FP rules, including some posts where people do the math and show why returning outside the window on the same day generally has very little, if any, effect on the length of the standby line. The fastpass system is a virtual line, and if you return late, there are people that go on ahead of you. If it was truly detrimental, Disney wouldn't have been allowing it for years. Every couple of months there is a rumor that it will change, but that's been going on for years too.

Allowing expired passes from a previous day would have a different effect, since the amount of fastpasses distributed in a single day is based on ride capacity for that day.

 

[Wadecool]

Sure there is a difference but not in the end
The end is that the fp procedure and point doesn't work because in both cases people are joining the line at times they are not suppose to

What we've got here is... failure to communicate. Some men you just can't reach.

 

[KellyNY]

Sure there is a difference but not in the end
The end is that the fp procedure and point doesn't work because in both cases people are joining the line at times they are not suppose to

You joined the line you were not suppose, that is the point. You cheated and you know this.

 

[redrosesix]

I just got home from an 11-day trip and found that nearly every CM that was standing at the FP entrance for an attraction inspected our FPs before letting us through. As in, stopped us, looked for at least a few seconds, then let us move on. That whole "fanning" thing wouldn't fly. We had 2 FPs that were good for any MK attraction for a week, and when we went to use them they inspected them very carefully, making sure we each had one.

In our experience we definitely could not get away with just pulling the stunt that the PP pulled... And honestly, that kind of stuff is really frustrating to hear about.

ITA!

We've always each handed in our own fp's -- I didn't know there would be any other way to do it. And it always seemed like they looked at each one.

 

[Mrs D]

Ymmv of course but I know in my experience they seldom look at them, example...last trip to dhs I was with 3 others
After stating i wanted to hit rrc first for fp they showed me how to work the system...
we got 4 fp tix to STM, rrc, tot all at the same time using their 3 tix
They used one ticket to get a valid fp for the ride the use it again and it prints a ticket saying you already have a pass, repeat at the next ride with another ticket
Show up a few minutes before entry time (11:55 for 12)
There usually is a group of people waiting so once noon hits have the tix fanned so they see the ride name and thats it
the cm just takes the passes, counts them them (4), lets 4 pass and takes the next groups without looking at any of them except he top one
So as I said I wouldn't buy them because you never know and it's not worth paying for but I have experienced cm not paying/caring attn

Since this post is promoting ways to break Disney rules, and that is against the DIS policy I'm guessing this thread will be locked and this post deleted in the near future. Shall we start the countdown?

 

[LSUfan4444]

This is in no way a promotion, only reporting historical information.

This has been going on for a few years and might be one of the reasons to accumulate additional unused FP's. There are usually two people taking/checking FP's. One at the start of the queue, who checks it for accuracy and the other at the end of the line who takes the actual ticket.

The ones who take the actual tickets VERY FREQUENTLY do not check the ticket. The stratgey used (take TSM for example) is you get a TSM FP first thing in the morning, then accumulate other FP's for other attractions with MUCH shorter return times, then you show the TSM FP to the CM at the entrance of the queue, then give them CM another ticket at the end of the line. Worst case scenerio is th CM says "this FP is for another attraction", and you present them with the proper FP.

Again, not advocating, and have never done it, but I do know it has been happening for years and is also mentioned in a popular book with lots of info like this.

 

[dmband]

Since this post is promoting ways to break Disney rules, and that is against the DIS policy I'm guessing this thread will be locked and this post deleted in the near future. Shall we start the countdown?

Well I had replies typed out for most everything posted then my iPad closed and lost everything but I am not promoting and never said breaking the rules is right

I do have a question for people though...
If returning anytime after ____ on your fast pass doesn't effect things, then why does Disney put return between on the passes?
They should just say return after instead

 

[DisGirl1971]

Well I had replies typed out for most everything posted then my iPad closed and lost everything but I am not promoting and never said breaking the rules is right

I do have a question for people though...
If returning anytime after ____ on your fast pass doesn't effect things, then why does Disney put return between on the passes?
They should just say return after instead

They put that verbage on the ticket in case they do need to enforce a return time. For instance, during extremely crowded weeks like Christmas/New Year's week or when there is very high crowd volume for a new ride/attraction, they may need to enforce the return times for mere crowd control issues. It doesn't happen very often, but they do very occassionally have to do that.

 

[doconeill]

The upper return time serves a number of functions. As already mentioned, they MIGHT have to enforce return times, although it is EXTREMELY rare...even at peak times there doesn't seem to be directed enforcement, only cases of CMs who seem to think it should be enforced (go back later when there is a different CM, and they'll let you through...)

Also, it helps to moderated the flow. Most guests are going to show up during the window. And I mean most. Plenty who even know you can use them late will still use the at or close to the first moment they can - a lot of people want to ride sooner than later.

And I didn't say it has ZERO effect. The effect is minimal, and in the end, it is "zero sum". See the link in my signature for an article that goes in to great detail as to why...

 

[dmband]

Thanks guys, makes sense

 

[nytimez]

Wow. This may have been the first bloodless end to a FP debate... ever.

 

[mesaboy2]

Thanks guys, makes sense

We can always use another Jedi.

 

[KellyNY]

Wow. This may have been the first bloodless end to a FP debate... ever.

And it is so unreal, it makes me nervous.