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Could someone explain in simple terms (I'm exhausted and minds a little numb after yesterdays candyfest :rotfl: ) how EE works at DL. We have been to WDW many,many times but this is our first trip to DL and we can't wait :cheer2: We will be staying at DH and GC. Is there an EE we can go to everyday??? Who is entitled to use EE?? I've read on this and other BB that DL has longer park hours than WDW is this true??? We are going the end of March and first week of April. Thanks everyone and its soo great how active this BB is becoming. It helps to read everyone else's threads..gets you psyched for your upcoming trip!!
 
DL only offers EE 4 days per week--Monday, Tuesday, Thursday and Saturday. If you are staying on-site, then, currently you can use EE everyday it's offered during your stay (they could change this at any point since it's kind of unadvertised).
 
On the subject of park hours, if you're going during a busy time (Spring Break), DL will usually be open from 8-12. I'm pretty sure MK opens at 9:00 most days of the year even during busy times.
 
I am not staying onsite but I ordered my park ticket online and it says 1 free EE. How does that work? IT looks like DL opens at 8:00 when I am there, so does that mean DL will open at 7:00am?
 

Along with your DL ticket, you get another ticket for EE to the park. Since the park opens at 8:00, you would be able to use that EE ticket once to get in at 7:00. Same thing for toontown..
 
TwingleMum said:
Could someone explain in simple terms (I'm exhausted and minds a little numb after yesterdays candyfest :rotfl: ) how EE works at DL. We have been to WDW many,many times but this is our first trip to DL and we can't wait :cheer2: We will be staying at DH and GC. Is there an EE we can go to everyday??? Who is entitled to use EE?? I've read on this and other BB that DL has longer park hours than WDW is this true??? We are going the end of March and first week of April. Thanks everyone and its soo great how active this BB is becoming. It helps to read everyone else's threads..gets you psyched for your upcoming trip!!
Below is an excerpt from "A DLR Guide for WDW Vets" www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=1162599 which answers this question.

DLR high season parallels WDW, and as noted by others DL opens at 8AM during high season and stays open until midnight. EE thus starts at 7AM.

17. Early Entry at DLR vs. Extra Magic Hours at WDW

DLR and WDW have a history of offering extended park hours to certain visitors. These perks change over time and the current form of these perks will most likely change in the future. Therefore the information in this section is the most likely of all sections in this guide to become outdated.

At DLR “EE” means Early Entry, not Expedition Everest (as at WDW). The DLR Early Entry and WDW Extra Magic Hours (EMH) are recent perks offered to guests. Similar to EMH, paying attention to how EE works will have a major impact on how you plan your days at DLR.

EE is offered at DL on Mondays, Tuesdays, Thursdays and Saturdays. During EE DL opens 1 hour early for certain guests. The rides open during EE are fairly regular but subject to change on any day. During EE most of the FantasyLand rides are open, as are Space Mountain and Buzz Lightyear Astro Blasters in TomorrowLand.

Officially the only way to get EE is to buy a 3+ day parkhopper bonus ticket. Note that most DLR tickets are bonus tickets, but some (such as those offered by the military) are not (or so I have heard). If a guest buys one of these 3+ day bonus tickets, they are entitled to one EE morning during their trip. It does not matter if the guest stays at a DLR hotel, a good neighbor hotel, or any hotel for that matter.

In July 2005 DLR started offering EE to its DLR hotel guests. When this second EE access method began it was described as a “test”, which meant it could be stopped at any time. This test has now gone on for a year and some DLR hotel guests have come to regard it as a perk and not a test. In any case, if you are a DLR hotel guest you can use EE on every day it is offered while you stay at the hotel, not just on one day as the “official” bonus ticket visitors are allowed. At least you can as long as the “test” continues.

DCA does not have an EE program. However, GCH guests are regularly allowed into the park early (there is a special DCA entrance from the GCH). On most mornings DCA opens its gates 30 minutes early and opens one ride, Soarin’ Over California. So even if you get to the DCA gates right at official park opening you may face a pre-existing line on this ride. Fortunately it has FastPass.

Another early entry perk of sorts is Mickey’s ToonTown Morning Madness (TTMM). ToonTown at DL typically opens one hour after official park opening, and TTMM allows certain guests to get into ToonTown one hour early. Since TTMM is one hour before ToonTown’s typical one hour delayed opening, it begins right when DL regular park hours begin. And TTMM is not necessarily on the same days as EE. Right now it is offered on Mondays, Wednesdays, Fridays, and Saturdays.

I have never done TTMM so this is second-hand. During TTMM a mock ceremony is held and access to characters is provided. Apparently the TT rides (of which there are only a few) are also open.

TTMM is obtained by simply booking your trip through the DLR website, and does require you to stay at a DLR or Good Neighbor hotel. Unlike EE, TTMM does not have such a major effect on DL traffic patterns. But TTMM will affect Toontown traffic patterns as there will already be lines when ToonTown officially opens to everyone. If you want to visit ToonTown and do not have TTMM privileges, it is best to visit it on a non-TTMM day. And go early.

So how should you use or plan around EE? First, if you have EE you should definitely use it. This is contrary to certain advice for WDW to avoid EMH parks. Second, EE should be focused on the FantasyLand rides. These rides are very close together physically and are often 2-3 minutes in length. So you can do a lot of the FantasyLand rides in that one hour – I have heard of people doing 9 different rides – we have done 7. None of the DL FantasyLand rides have FastPass, and thus rides like Peter Pan, Dumbo and Matterhorn must be done first thing in the morning to avoid lengthy lines later in the day. EE is a perfect time to do them.

Some people are tempted to go to the headliner rides during EE, namely Space Mountain and Buzz Lightyear. Both of these rides have FastPass (FP), and as such can be ridden any time of day with a short line using FP, unlike the FantasyLand rides which do not have FP. It is therefore wise to focus on FantasyLand during EE.

If you visit DLR during high season, that means an 8AM park opening and 7AM EE. All else being equal, if you only have one EE day I think it is best to use EE on the first possible day you can – preferably the very first day of your trip - because you will have the most energy that day (no park day on the previous day) and, if you can manage it, and earlier bedtime than other nights where you may stay late at the parks.

What if it is an EE day (Mon/Tue/Thu/Sat) but you yourself do not have EE? On such days even if you arrive at the parks before they open and are first in line for regular opening you will face long lines in FantasyLand right away. Such days are thus good days to avoid FantasyLand altogether. They are also good days to go to DCA.

In summary there is no other way to slice it. If you want to do FantasyLand during high season without extremely long lines, either do it during EE or do it first thing on a non-EE day.
 
wendypooh22 said:
Along with your DL ticket, you get another ticket for EE to the park. Since the park opens at 8:00, you would be able to use that EE ticket once to get in at 7:00. Same thing for toontown..
You do get separate vouchers for ToonTown Morning Madness. But you do not get anything separate for EE. If you have 3+ day tix, your one day EE privilige is printed on the entrance tickets. If you are staying at a DLR hotel, I believe you just need to bring your hotel receipt to prove you are staying onsite to get EE, and you can do this each day EE is available.
 
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HydroGuy said:
But you do not get anything separate for EE. If you have 3+ day tix, your one day EE privilige is printed on the entrance tickets.
Yes, that is how mine is. So I can just enter into the park on Saturday morning with this ticket?
 
if you book through the Walt DIsney Company, you can also get the Mickey's toontown madness... i think it needs to be 3-4 days park hopper pass..
 
Albort said:
if you book through the Walt DIsney Company, you can also get the Mickey's toontown madness... i think it needs to be 3-4 days park hopper pass..
I booked (2) three day park hopper passes through the Disneyland website and did not get Mickey's toontown madness.
 
Pooh_Friend#1 said:
I booked (2) three day park hopper passes through the Disneyland website and did not get Mickey's toontown madness.

There is a number to call for tickets - you can call them and ask what the other perks are. You may even be getting a lanyard and pin.

Somehow we're getting a totebag, too - I think that's for the Disney Visa, though.

But call and ask - you may be getting more perks than you know!
 
Pooh_Friend#1 said:
Yes, that is how mine is. So I can just enter into the park on Saturday morning with this ticket?

We did the same thing in August. We bought 3 day hoppers with the EE. When you enter the park (we entered at 7 am), they'll stamp your paper ticket (I assume you received a paper ticket...that's what we received through DL online) so that you can't do another early entry.

When you enter the park, my advice is not to waste time. LOL Take a quick photo in front of the castle because there aren't that many people crowding the hub yet. But then head to Fantasyland right away and get into the Peter Pan line. Do all your Fantasyland rides in that one hour and you won't be frustrated later that day with the long lines. Then....just before 8 am (or when the rest of the park opens), get ready to enter Frontierland. Stand by the rope drop so you can get into Pirates as soon as it opens. We then strolled over to Haunted Mansion. It was great. No waiting for two of my most favourite rides.

That was our strategy and it worked perfectly for us. We had breakfast at the Riverbelle Terrace after HM. And it was a nice leisurely breakfast. Of course...I was dead tired by 11 pm.
 
pxlbarrel said:
We did the same thing in August. We bought 3 day hoppers with the EE. When you enter the park (we entered at 7 am), they'll stamp your paper ticket (I assume you received a paper ticket...that's what we received through DL online) so that you can't do another early entry.

When you enter the park, my advice is not to waste time. LOL Take a quick photo in front of the castle because there aren't that many people crowding the hub yet. But then head to Fantasyland right away and get into the Peter Pan line. Do all your Fantasyland rides in that one hour and you won't be frustrated later that day with the long lines. Then....just before 8 am (or when the rest of the park opens), get ready to enter Frontierland. Stand by the rope drop so you can get into Pirates as soon as it opens. We then strolled over to Haunted Mansion. It was great. No waiting for two of my most favourite rides.

That was our strategy and it worked perfectly for us. We had breakfast at the Riverbelle Terrace after HM. And it was a nice leisurely breakfast. Of course...I was dead tired by 11 pm.
Thank you for these tips, I will definitely follow them!! I need all the help I can get.
 
ScrapperKimmyD said:
There is a number to call for tickets - you can call them and ask what the other perks are. You may even be getting a lanyard and pin.

Somehow we're getting a totebag, too - I think that's for the Disney Visa, though.

But call and ask - you may be getting more perks than you know!
Do you know where I can locate the number? :confused3 and do I just ask for the tickets for mickey toontown madness?
 
Pooh_Friend#1 said:
Do you know where I can locate the number? :confused3 and do I just ask for the tickets for mickey toontown madness?


Well, I know ONE of these numbers I've writtin down is the right one. But silly me didn't write down which numbers are which. At the site you ordered your tix, there should be a number to call. That's where I got the number in the first place.
 
pxlbarrel said:
When you enter the park, my advice is not to waste time. LOL Take a quick photo in front of the castle because there aren't that many people crowding the hub yet. But then head to Fantasyland right away and get into the Peter Pan line. Do all your Fantasyland rides in that one hour and you won't be frustrated later that day with the long lines. Then....just before 8 am (or when the rest of the park opens), get ready to enter Frontierland. Stand by the rope drop so you can get into Pirates as soon as it opens. We then strolled over to Haunted Mansion. It was great. No waiting for two of my most favourite rides.

That was our strategy and it worked perfectly for us. We had breakfast at the Riverbelle Terrace after HM. And it was a nice leisurely breakfast. Of course...I was dead tired by 11 pm.
Pooh_Friend#1 said:
Thank you for these tips, I will definitely follow them!! I need all the help I can get.
I partly agree and partly disagree with pxlbarrel here. Everyone has to find an approach that works for them, so there is no strict "this is the right thing to do" strategy. In any case, pxlbarrel is right on that EE or in general first thing in the morning is not the time for leisurely taking in the park. Save that for mid-morning and afternoon. First thing in the morning is the time to be moving. We call it "walking with purpose".

Where I see things differently than pxlbarrel is what to do after Fantasyland. IMO, POTC and HM are not the rides to do right away. Why? Because they are the highest capacity rides at DL and the lines build up more slowly than many other rides. We usually save POTC and HM for 1-2 hours after the park opens, and the lines are rarely more than 5-10 minutes at that point. Instead, first thing in the morning we go on rides like Jungle Cruise which have lines which build up much more quickly.

If you feel like you need help in deciding which rides to go on, look at RideMax - www.ridemax.com . RideMax is not for everyone, but it can help you figure out which rides are best to go on first thing vs. later in the day.
 
HydroGuy said:
Where I see things differently than pxlbarrel is what to do after Fantasyland. IMO, POTC and HM are not the rides to do right away. Why? Because they are the highest capacity rides at DL and the lines build up more slowly than many other rides. We usually save POTC and HM for 1-2 hours after the park opens, and the lines are rarely more than 5-10 minutes at that point. Instead, first thing in the morning we go on rides like Jungle Cruise which have lines which build up much more quickly.

As I said, it was a strategy that worked for us. However, the lines that you describe weren't what we saw when we were in the park, in August. The lines at POTC and HM were never 5-10 minutes from midday onwards. Pirates was typically very long by noon (we're talking over 1 hour) and so was HM (probably 20-45 minutes). In fact, we left on the first boat out one morning and when we emerged from the ride, the line was already very long. The line for POTC was usually snaking around the area outside the POTC "gate" which I believe is the 45 minute point in the line. As for HM, it was very crowded on one Sunday (goth day...go figure :rotfl2: ) but still crowded during the week. It seemed to lessen as the week went on. Jungle Cruise, on the other hand was almost a walk on for us in the afternoon. Totally opposite of what you've just described. In my opinion, if you want to ride POTC without having to wait a very long time, do it right after EE or around 6 pm or later in the evening. At least...that was our experience.

We went the week before school started up again in California so I don't know if we had unusually high crowds that week. I must say that of all the times I've been to Disneyland, this had to have been the most crowded I had ever seen it. How crowded was it? There were huge lines just to re-enter the park on the Sunday and Tuesday. (We stayed in DL for the entire Monday so can't comment on re-entry.)

I also wanted to point out that our strategy was based on rides that we liked. We're ambivalent to Jungle Cruise...we rode it when we had done everything else we wanted to do and because it was a walk on...we're not really big Jungle Cruise fans. We rode Pirates and HM first because those are our favourite rides and riding it early in the day means we might get to ride it twice in one day....or with respect to HM, we rode it very often in one day.) If we had been big roller coaster people, we would probably have gone for one of the coaster rides first (ones that didn't have fast pass).
 
pxlbarrel said:
As I said, it was a strategy that worked for us. However, the lines that you describe weren't what we saw when we were in the park, in August. The lines at POTC and HM were never 5-10 minutes from midday onwards.
I was talking about the first 2 hours of the day, not mid-day. Yes, mid-day lines can build up on POTC and HM - usually not much more than 30-40 minutes but this year has been a bit different because of the POTC refurb (everyone wants to ride it now) and the problems they have had with boats getting stuck, causing the ride to stop and lines to back up.

In any case, I understand your point that this is what worked for you and I am fine with that. What I was trying to do was point out that in general it is better to do low capacity rides (whose lines tend to build up quickly) first thing in the morning and do higher capacity rides (whose lines build up more slowly) after those.

I too was there in August (early August, not late August). I suspect you might have hit some crowd problems with AP holders during that time. The POTC ride re-opened on June 24, and a blackout for AP holders went into effect on June 26 (or thereabouts) and lifted around Aug 20. The AP holders who wanted to ride POTC either braved the crowds on June 24 or waited to get on the ride in late August. That would have affected the lines in an unusual way at that time.

In early August the lines for POTC were 30 minutes all morning. We waited 35 minutes at about 11AM, but that was because the ride stopped while we were in line for about 10 minutes when (guess what??) the boats got stuck. By mid-day the lines were 45 minutes, but the POTC had problems all day long that day. We also rode HM at about 9:15AM (park opened at 8AM) and the line was 2 minutes long.

Another reason many people put off riding POTC and HM first thing in the morning is because the rides are so long compared to most other rides. POTC is 16 minutes long, and HM is 8. While you are riding POTC (in particular) in the early morning you are not able to do other things when their lines are short.

pxlbarrel said:
Jungle Cruise, on the other hand was almost a walk on for us in the afternoon. Totally opposite of what you've just described. In my opinion, if you want to ride POTC without having to wait a very long time, do it right after EE or around 6 pm or later in the evening. At least...that was our experience.
Cool. But that is not how lines usually build up at DLR. And POTC in particular has been hard to predict in recent months because they did not do enough testing on the boats before they re-opened the ride and the ride keeps going down.

With all of that said, we sometimes do the same as you and go on these first thing in the morning because (like you) we may want to ride them multiple times. And sometimes we go thru standby lines for FastPass rides first thing in the morning. But I do not think doing either of these things is "best" from the point of view of getting on the most rides that day.
 
HydroGuy said:
With all of that said, we sometimes do the same as you and go on these first thing in the morning because (like you) we may want to ride them multiple times. And sometimes we go thru standby lines for FastPass rides first thing in the morning. But I do not think doing either of these things is "best" from the point of view of getting on the most rides that day.

A few years ago, our strategy would have been to ride HM and POTC later in the day as well. When Indy was still new (ie, AT&T were still handing out the decoder cards!), we used to rope drop run to Indy (again, not going to the coaster rides - no fast pass then). Alas, this past trip, with the way everybody wanted to ride POTC, we had to adjust our strategy (we saw the lines the first day we went in and had to rethink for the next day.) At one point, we couldn't believe the line...you'd think that Johnny Depp himself was inside!! (oh to be true... :love: )

In any case, I think the problem rides are in Fantasyland anyway. If the OP can get through EE doing all the rides in there, the rest of the park will be very easy. :lmao: We almost blew it by spending too much time taking photos in front of the castle (minus huge crowds). Our order of EE Fantasyland rides were Peter Pan, then Mister Toad, followed by Alice in Wonderland...then all the other rides but those rides first because we can never get onto PP in WDW and they don't have Toad or Alice there either.

We now have a problem though. We discovered that we can survive Big Thunder...<gasp> a roller coaster. It was one of the rides we rode during the 50th anniversary tour after our tour guide assured us it was pretty tame. We now love it and now have to adjust our strategy to include it. :rotfl:

I bow to your expertise in the strategy the park lines. I think the thing to remember most when hitting the park on a crowded day is to be flexible (and to remember not to come back at that time of year again!!! :rotfl2: )

Man, it's been 2 months since we've been there....why do I wanna go back already??? :Pinkbounc
 













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