E-cigs?

[Lees3rwe]

Trust me all, I definitely want to quit. This however, is not the right time to do so. As some of you may know, my stepson (like my own) killed himself a week ago last Friday, and I am not in any frame of mind right now to quit. Honestly, it is a stress reliever, not one of which I am proud, but it is what it is.

The e-cig is nothing more than a nicotine delivery system, similar to the patch, gum, or lozenges. What gives it and advantage is for oral-fixated people like me to have the feeling of smoking, without actually inhaling the 300+ other chemicals found in a normal cigarette.

When I blew the vapor in my dd's face, she is asthmatic and felt no adverse affects.

Unless strictly forbidden at Disney parks and resorts, I will use them and explain to anyone who questions me what it is exactly I am using. If someone thinks, just because I take a puff of my e-cig, that it's ok for them to light up, that's their problem, not mine.....

First of all, I am very sorry for your loss.

On the topic of the e-cigg and people thinking that gives them the ok, I hate to say it, but these things WILL make it harder to police who is actually smoking and who isn't. There will be a group of people who will think this will make it easier to sneak in a smoke.
If you want to use it, why not just go to the smoking area?

 

[TDC Nala]

They probably won't be paying attention to what color it lights up. It still looks like a cigarette. You should still be prepared to explain it to cast members and probably even regular guests who will probably challenge you if they think you are smoking a cigarette outside the smoking areas. If the cast members don't know what to do about it, then you may expect to be steered to the smoking area if it's the best solution that particular CM can come up with. Doesn't bother me that there is the outside possibility that someone might see it, decide it's OK to smoke a cigarette and light up. When THEY are challenged they'll have to put it out or move to a smoking area. If the CMs don't enforce the smoking areas, that's a completely different issue as to whether an e-cig is too close in appearance to a real cigarette.

 

[jazzielady]

They probably won't be paying attention to what color it lights up. It still looks like a cigarette. You should still be prepared to explain it to cast members and probably even regular guests who will probably challenge you if they think you are smoking a cigarette outside the smoking areas.

That's not a problem . When I've shown it to people - including my GE doctor! - they've thought it was wonderful! I used it in a hospital, and all the employees on that floor came in to see what it was (an earlier model) so either they could use it or could recommend it to a family member. And this was in a hospital where I had a roommate on oxygen!

 

[jazzielady]

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If you want to use it, why not just go to the smoking area?

Because I'm not actually smoking, and the vapor you see is not smoke, dissipates quickly, and will not bother you or your family.

 

[PIRATEGIRL007]

And just because it does not cause a problem for your daughter how do you know someone with asthma or other health problems would not be bothered.

Denise in MI

Just want to point out that if someone with health problems have issues so severe that vapors of water bother them they may want to avoid WDW all together. I can think of more than a few situations they would be in that would be 'dangerous' to them.

 

[ChloroFiend]

Just want to point out that if someone with health problems have issues so severe that vapors of water bother them they may want to avoid WDW all together. I can think of more than a few situations they would be in that would be 'dangerous' to them.

I was going to post nearly the same thing in my first post.

To counteract all the people that will say 'but there's other stuff other than water vapor'....potentially sure. There's also ground level ozone, smoke, smog, automobile exhaust, and a thousand other pollutants in the air we breathe every day, in what I'd expect are significantly higher quantities.

Just for the record, I'm a former smoker with no dog in this fight, save for the continual migration of America towards a nanny society at the cost of individual liberties. (even more )

 

[jjsdad]

Actually the health risks are still being studied so you have no idea what the impact is on someones health.

Densie in MI

Yes, the health risks to the actual person smoking the e cigarrette. What comes out is not harmfull in any way and that is a fact. Believe me I have done research on this because I am very anti smoking in public in terms of my health and my families health. There is no combustion and it vaporizes the liquid in the unit and comes basically as a water vapor into the atmosphere. Sure it looks like smoke, but it is not. As far as these being healthy, densie is correct the jury is out. These are not regulated and you could be putting stuff in your body that you aren't aware of. What they use to make the cartridges as well as the conditions they are made in may not be what is listed.

I am not a smoker and have been around these inside buildings and the only thing that is noticeable is the person doing it as the vapor dissapates within 1 second of hitting the atmosphere (and about a foot tops from the person smoking it) First time I saw one I actually thought the person was smoking something else.

One thing to think of is it could create some akward conversations when a child starts asking what it is that you are doing. I have no issues there, but some might take issue. I'm only concerned about the health hazards.

Edit: I also wanted to add in that there is no smell on the person doing it. Nothing is worse than having someone get on line behind you, sit down next to you on a bus or whatever the case may be and having them smell like they just ate the contents out of an ashtray...

 

[dntd]

I think this is a great idea, I am asthmatic and have attacks sometimes by just the SMELL of cir on people....

 

[YodaGirl]

Just want to point out that if someone with health problems have issues so severe that vapors of water bother them they may want to avoid WDW all together. I can think of more than a few situations they would be in that would be 'dangerous' to them.

I was going to post nearly the same thing in my first post.

To counteract all the people that will say 'but there's other stuff other than water vapor'....potentially sure. There's also ground level ozone, smoke, smog, automobile exhaust, and a thousand other pollutants in the air we breathe every day, in what I'd expect are significantly higher quantities.

Just for the record, I'm a former smoker with no dog in this fight, save for the continual migration of America towards a nanny society at the cost of individual liberties. (even more )

As a former smoker, I can hardly stand the smell of smoke. In fact, if I'm stopped at a red light with my windows up, I can smell if someone is smoking one or two cars back from me. Same for DH.

I don't see how the e-cigs are an issue. Someone else's misconception isn't really your problem. Be prepared for stares and questions, but if you're fine with that, go for it.

I don't blame you for not wanting to go to a smoking area. As a smoker, some smoking areas were too much for me (I believe the one by Aloha Isle was pretty smokey even for a smoker). I definitely wouldn't want to be there if I wasn't actually smoking.

 

[Lees3rwe]

hmmm...just being nosy, I googled "e-cigs in non smoking areas".
It appears that many hospitals are now including e-cigs in their no smoking policies, though more for the "We like to present healthy examples" reason.

 

[Sandy321]

So if you all see someone puff on something that lights up blue (instead of the usual orange) you'll think it's a cigarette??

I never realized there was a color -

I have a mild allergy to cigarette smoke - and I no longer assume when I see someone puffing that it is a regular cigarette - but its taken me a back more than once!!

I'm so sorry for your loss, I cant imagine what you must be going through.

I understand the comfort cigarettes can give, my mom is very attatched to her cigarettes, she's quit smoking many many many times - they looked into the e-cigs, but felt they were still very expensive, (in that they are smaller and she may use them up to fast?) or maybe that's what she says so she doesnt give up her cigarettes!!

 

[minniebride]

I think that here the 'toy gun' metaphor shall come in to use.

Would it be acceptable for your children to wave around and play with an airsoft (fake) gun in Disney World? Surely not. Although it is not technically considered a weapon, it would not be tolerated, because it carries with it the assumption of being a weapon.

I think the same thing would apply with the electronic cigarette. It may not be against park policy, but you would most likely be asked to desist by a Cast Member.

We are occasional smokers, and we only use the e-cig when we have the desire to have a puff or two (and that is typically all we will have at a time). I called WDW once to ask them about their policies on e-cigs and we were told that they are allowed anywhere on property, but they prefer that people did not use them while on an attraction so the ride operator does not confuse it for a real cigarette.

We were told by our airline that we were allowed to use it on the plane, but we felt awkward doing so. We typically use it a little while in our hotel room. We do bring it to the parks with us, but we avoid the smoking section like the plague. Why? Because our whole purpose to switching to these is to avoid the crap that is in regular cigarette smoke. When we do use it in the park, we do make sure we are away from crowds or people, because we want to avoid the obnoxious and snarky comments from people who have no idea what we are smoking.

We will continue to use our e-cigs during our vacations if we choose to. But we will also continue to use them away from the crowds & away from crowded areas. We will also continue to stay away from the designated smoking areas, because we do not want to inhale the second hand cigarette smoke. Last time we were there, a CM actually approached us, not to ask us to put away the e-cig, but because he was curious about the device.

This reply was not directed specifically at the poster I quoted, but I quoted him/her because I couldn't help but chuckle when I saw their post. It brought back flashbacks of last May, a few hours before my fiance proposed to me. We were watching Wishes and my DF was nervously thinking of popping the question, right then and there. But he waited until later because we were situated next to this AWFUL family with two atrocious kids who were aiming their toy bubble guns at the baby carriage in front of us, angering the parents of the baby in the carriage, while the other kid was wacking my DF's legs with his toy pirate's knife, pissing both of us off!

So, not only do kids wave around toy bubble guns and toy knives at Disney World, you can actually purchase these items there!

 

[squirrel]

I'm glad you have switched to e-cigs.

I'm super allergic to smoke from cigarettes. I get asthma attacks even if the person is over 5 feet away.

My only concern would be that a smoker would be confused or think it's okay to smoke anywhere in the park with a cigarette because they see others (that they don't know are using the e-cigs) smoking.

My mom smokes and she has made me have asthma attacks by smoking close to me. Unfortunately, every exposure to the smokes makes the next time worse. She use to smoke inside the house. She eventually started smoking outside. Now when she knows I'm coming over she smokes out front as everyone enters the house from the back.

 

[mkarizona]

I think it sets a terrible example for children.

 

[nkereina]

I think it sets a terrible example for children.

Why? The primary purpose of the electronic cigarette is for someone to initiate the quitting process, so if anything it should be a good example to show that smoking is bad and people want to quit, and you can quit with the right willpower and resources if needed.

The electronic cigarette IS similar to the patch or the gum and no one would bat an eye if someone was wearing a patch or chewing the gum. However, the vapor that does come out many people would misconstrue as smoke or something harmful so to avoid that, I would stick to the designated smoking areas or in my room.

 

[iheartdisney]

As an 8-year non smoker, every time I pass the kiosk in the mall I want to buy one because I MISS IT SO MUCH!!!!!
So i say puff away!! If any random person asks you to stop, Show them it isn't a cigarette, and if they persist ask them to mind their own business.
As far as the "what about if someone sees you" point, may I counter with the following arguement:
On any given day, there are countless obese and diabetic guests- do you eat your Mickey bar in some dark corner?
If a person is not smoking a cigarette, there is no reason they should have to go out of their way to find a smoking area.

 

[myheartlivesatwdw]

I think it sets a terrible example for children.

Seriously? Mind boggling.

As an 8-year non smoker, every time I pass the kiosk in the mall I want to buy one because I MISS IT SO MUCH!!!!!
So i say puff away!! If any random person asks you to stop, Show them it isn't a cigarette, and if they persist ask them to mind their own business.
As far as the "what about if someone sees you" point, may I counter with the following arguement:
On any given day, there are countless obese and diabetic guests- do you eat your Mickey bar in some dark corner?
If a person is not smoking a cigarette, there is no reason they should have to go out of their way to find a smoking area.

I like you.

 

[Mama Who]

Why? The primary purpose of the electronic cigarette is for someone to initiate the quitting process, so if anything it should be a good example to show that smoking is bad and people want to quit, and you can quit with the right willpower and resources if needed.

The electronic cigarette IS similar to the patch or the gum and no one would bat an eye if someone was wearing a patch or chewing the gum. However, the vapor that does come out many people would misconstrue as smoke or something harmful so to avoid that, I would stick to the designated smoking areas or in my room.

Probably because a small child does not understand the difference and what they see is a grown up "smoking". A child sees gum as gum, doesn't see a patch at all (or thinks it's a bandaid) and sees an e-cig as a cigarette. While you're trying to quit, what you do while you are trying to quit does look like smoking and smoking sets a bad example for kids in the opinion of many.

I applaud your decision to quit.

 

[Mama Who]

I don't see where she is trying to quit. I believe she just wants the nicotine without the hassle from people who feel she is smoking.

She's trying to quit hurting anyone but herself with her behavior. That deserves kudos in my book. Hopefully she'll feel up to quitting entirely and preserving her own health sometime soon, but until then she's preserving that of those around her and I respect that.

 

[housemouse]

She's trying to quit hurting anyone but herself with her behavior. That deserves kudos in my book. Hopefully she'll feel up to quitting entirely and preserving her own health sometime soon, but until then she's preserving that of those around her and I respect that.

That's probably one of the most uneducated remarks I've ever seen regarding electronic cigarettes. E-cigarette users report time and time again the increased health benefits they experience from stopping traditional cigarette use and using these as a replacement. Measurable increases by their Dr.'s in pulmonary function tests, increased stamina,eradication of nagging coughs, elimination of inhalers because they are no longer needed, being able to come off of hypertensive meds because they're no longer needed. And she's "hurting herself?" Newsflash. She is preserving her own health. Every one around her is a secondary beneficiary.