DVC Resort Points - seasoned member ?

[MNKelly]

Just wondering, have any of you seasoned DVC members been through a points increase during your ownership? (Not purchasing additional points, but the resorts points chart increasing.) If you have, was it solely because DVC added rooms to your home resort or was there another explaination? I'm just trying to figure out how often the points charts increase at a property and what the cause is. (I get time of year/calendar fluctuactions, that's not what I'm asking about here.) TIA for any info.

 

[SugarLoaf]

The total points on a chart cannot change. The only way certain rooms during certain seasons will increase is if another category decreases so all the total points stay the same.

For example I believe at BLT they made some rooms that were theme park view standard view, therefore they had to charge less for those rooms and made increases in other areas. Someone with more exact information will hopefully chime in. But it is that sort of thing that causes increases/decreases.

 

[DizBub]

The points charts at the individual resorts cannot totally increase, ever. If there is an increase in a room category or season there will be a decrease in another category or season. Since there is a specific number of points there will always be a balance.

I know other, more experienced DVC members will give you a clearer answer.

 

[JimMIA]

No timeshare can add points to the total availability unless they add units, like SSR did a few years ago with the addition of the Treehouses.

By the same token, no timeshare can charge more for a particular type of unit without reducing points costs somewhere else. The points have to balance out -- it's a zero sum game.

What Disney has done a couple of times -- in addition to making seasonal adjustments -- is to increase the cost of some Sun-Thurs rates while reducing Friday-Saturday costs as an offset. The purpose of those adjustments was to better distribute demand over the full week (if the differential is too great, nobody stays Fri-Sat). But the overall points being charged at that resort did not change.

For some owners, those adjustments were welcome; for others they effectively raised the cost of their vacations.

 

[com_op_2000]

What Disney has done a couple of times -- in addition to making seasonal adjustments -- is to increase the cost of some Sun-Thurs rates while reducing Friday-Saturday costs as an offset. The purpose of those adjustments was to better distribute demand over the full week (if the differential is too great, nobody stays Fri-Sat). But the overall points being charged at that resort did not change.

For some owners, those adjustments were welcome; for others they effectively raised the cost of their vacations.

I am one of those who is badly affected by the three major points adjustments done over 20 years.
When I bought in I had enough points to stay 27 nights per year, Sun through Thurs, and at the lowest points usage times of the year. Since the three adjustments I am now down to 20 nights per year, staying in the same resort, type of accommodations, and time of the year.

 

[disneynutz]

We are short about 30 points per year now compared to years past. We go the same time each year and stay at the same resorts, same room size and category.

After the last adjustment, Disney thought that they would be nice and offer one time point rentals for $15 per point.

Bill

 

[DizBub]

We are short about 30 points per year now compared to years past. We go the same time each year and stay at the same resorts, same room size and category.

After the last adjustment, Disney thought that they would be nice and offer one time point rentals for $15 per point.

Bill

Which still leaves you 6 points short.....how do you handle that?

We haven't had the occasion to use the one time use points yet but I'm glad it's available now.

 

[DebbieB]

I originally bought 250 points with the plans to use 6 nights at OKW in May and 6 nights at BWV in early December, both 1 bedroom Saturday to Friday, so 5 weeknight, 1 weekend. I knew I would have to cut a night every so often because I was a little over.

Originally, OKW was 148 points, it's now 167. BWV was 121 for standard view, now 127. The difference happened when they shifted weekday and weekend points. Also, they shifted points between the room sizes, which I didn't know they could do.

I made those annual plans when my mom was alive, she passed away in 2005 and my trips are no longer on a schedule so I can juggle the points I need. I typically stay in a studio now too, plus sometimes stay at the new resorts so the points requirements are higher.

 

[Deb & Bill]

OKW also added points to their total in about 2000 when they opened Bldg 62, 63 and 64. The Commodore House was torn down and replaced with those three buildings.

 

[DebbieB]

BWV also added points when they closed the sales center and replaced it with more rooms.

 

[LisaS]

Disney sells enough points at each resort to book about 98% of all of the rooms every night of the year. If demand gets skewed (for example when people tended to book stays Sun-Thu because weekend nights were so expensive) they had to make changes to balance demand so that there aren't too many points left in circulation and not enough room nights to absorb them.

However, they cannot end up with either too few or too many points per resort as a result of their adjustments. So the total point cost to book every room in the resort for every night of the year cannot change as a result of these changes.

It's probably even more complicated than that because the members' deeds are tied to a specific Unit within the resort. (A Unit can be a single room like a Grand Villa, or a group of rooms like two 2BR lockoffs, or perhaps even an entire building at resorts like OKW.) It's possible that the point total for individual Units must stay the same after a reallocation, or at least not drop below the total points within that Unit that are owned by members. Since Disney maintains a 2%-ish ownership in each resort, if that is spread across all Units it would give them some flexibility when making point adjustments.