Dvc non perks

[MickeyStalkers]

A little disgruntled here,

I keep seeing great Disney vacation deals advertised every where, FREE NIGHTS, FREE DINING PLANS and so on.

When I questioned DVC about what current DVC Holders could expect as perks for being Members and some of us paying monthly loans along with maint. fees? The answer was a big fat so sorry!

So Disney also moved the ADR (advanced dining reservations) to 90 days out instead of 180. Now when you try ( I called at day 90) to get your favorite restaurants its "not available". Again another GREAT PERK for being a paying member. I am guessing all those free plans get to beat MEMBERS?

Think about it Disney-when you have 10,000 calling over a 180 day period vs a 90 day period its much better. How about DVC members get 120 days out and the others 90 days?

Maybe its time to dump DVC.

 

[DebbieB]

I'm happy - getting rooms about 75% off over the term of the contract.

 

[MickeyStalkers]

If you can survive for 42 years and keep using DVC yes, not the point of my board though.

Enjoy...

 

[DebbieB]

I've been a member almost 10 years. My loan is long paid off, so all I'm paying now is $108 a month for 250 BWV points. Gets me 11 nights a year in a 1 bedroom, a room with a rack rate of over $400. Get $100 off an annual pass. I don't expect free dining or free nights on top of that. You can't have your cake and eat it too.

 

[disneynutz]

A little disgruntled here,

I keep seeing great Disney vacation deals advertised every where, FREE NIGHTS, FREE DINING PLANS and so on.

When I questioned DVC about what current DVC Holders could expect as perks for being Members and some of us paying monthly loans along with maint. fees? The answer was a big fat so sorry!

So Disney also moved the ADR (advanced dining reservations) to 90 days out instead of 180. Now when you try ( I called at day 90) to get your favorite restaurants its "not available". Again another GREAT PERK for being a paying member. I am guessing all those free plans get to beat MEMBERS?

Think about it Disney-when you have 10,000 calling over a 180 day period vs a 90 day period its much better. How about DVC members get 120 days out and the others 90 days?

Maybe its time to dump DVC.

Disney already got your money when you bought your membership so why give you extra perks? The only way for you to get out of the DVC is to sell your contracts to someone else.

You will have to use your membership or lose your points so they know you need to buy admission tickets and you have to eat so why discount it.

The perks that we do get are token perks, just to say that we get something and discounting our APs costs Disney nothing.

Don't buy into the DVC for the perks, buy it for discounted, prepaid resort accommodations.

 

[Dean]

A little disgruntled here,

I keep seeing great Disney vacation deals advertised every where, FREE NIGHTS, FREE DINING PLANS and so on.

When I questioned DVC about what current DVC Holders could expect as perks for being Members and some of us paying monthly loans along with maint. fees? The answer was a big fat so sorry!

So Disney also moved the ADR (advanced dining reservations) to 90 days out instead of 180. Now when you try ( I called at day 90) to get your favorite restaurants its "not available". Again another GREAT PERK for being a paying member. I am guessing all those free plans get to beat MEMBERS?

Think about it Disney-when you have 10,000 calling over a 180 day period vs a 90 day period its much better. How about DVC members get 120 days out and the others 90 days?

Maybe its time to dump DVC.

I'm not a "sell if you don't like it" sort of guy. But it may be that DVC doesn't make sense for you at present, if so, it may never really have. If you think the reason behind the specials, I think you'll understand why DVC members shouldn't be entitled to free dining or reduced room rates just for being a member. We might see times when they will offer reduced points for certain situations, specific times of the year, reserving a full week at a time, certain resorts (HI comes to mind). And you can take advantage of those specials by using cash and holding on to your points or using them in another way, ?DCL.

 

[disney0210]

Sorry you feel that way.. Nice to have perks, but for us, we didn't really buy into DVC for those perks so it doesn't really affect us that there's free dining going on all around us.

If I may share a story, we were bringing friends with us (on our points, for FREE) on our October trip and all they had to worry about was their food, park tickets and plane fare. We got the room covered. One time, my friend told me that she saw all these ads for free dining around and was sad she couldn't take advantage of them. I told her she has the option to back out from using my points if she really wants to take advantage of free dining. She did the math and I guess she realized she's further ahead if she takes the free points to stay at a deluxe and pays her dining OOP.

For me, the perk is being able to go to WDW and stay at a deluxe whenever I want (I am only limited by how many points I have), and not really to eat for free during a specific period of time, like hurricane season.

 

[hockeyprincess]

You are free to take advantage of the "free" perks anytime you wish. You just have to book a room at rack rate and a package thru CRO!

If I've said it once I've said it a million times....free is NEVER free.

And I will never ever ever stay in a value resort to get "free" dining. Or a Mod. I will take my Deluxe DVC accomodations and pay for the dining plan if that's what we want to do.

The loan or no loan is a personal choice. If you have a loan for your DVC that's not Disney's problem. Some do, some don't....

Now the ADR's I do agree with you on and I look for Disney to do something about that soon. I think enough DVC members have voiced their opinion on that one.


Even before we went to Disney on our own points, we rented points because it was ALWAYS cheaper for us to do so than book a rack rate room + tickets + tax+ this + that.... they get you somewhere. And I can travel when I want. And I don't need length of stay passes to add dining plan. In fact I don't even need a one day ticket to add dining and eat wherever I choose. I love our DVC!

 

[jlewisinsyr]

We didn't buy in for perks that can change and often do, we bought in because a resort opened that we felt we'd want to stay in and the price was a significant savings over paying room rates every year (even when factoring in free dining).

Over the life on my contract I'll save well more then the current maximum value discount (40% - in the form of straight off or a conversion of free dining).

 

[MouseMomx2]

I'm not disgruntled at all. Our membership has more than paid for itself and we are still making out better than those who only use the "free" incentive packages. As another poster said, DVC members are free to take advantage of those packages and bank their points for later use. Remember, too, that those packages will disappear when the economy gets better, while we'll still be using the same number of points for our stays (barring any points restructuring).

I think it's all about your perspective.

 

[jbrowna]

It seems we get these kinds of threads popping up rather regularly: some DVC member upset because they see all the incentives Disney is putting out there to fill empty hotel rooms, and think it's unfair that they don't get the same opportunity. Well, as an earlier poster pointed out, DVC members have the exact same opportunity to take advantage of free dining or anything else, by calling and booking a room like non-DVC members! So why all this whining?

What these folks want is to use their DVC points AND get the incentives given to those who don't have pre-paid accommodations. THAT, to me, would be unfair, not only to those who don't own DVC, but to the Disney Company. In essence, DVC rooms that have been sold to members are already filled. The Disney Company does not need to provide incentives to keep them filled. But is the Company not allowed to provide incentives to the general public to fill up the rooms that would otherwise remain empty? I mean, isn't that what the free dining is all about? To provide that kind of incentive to already-bought-and-paid-for rooms makes no business sense!

 

[DVCJones]

Just wanted to say that I love my DVC membership and I am aware of the savings and quality of the accommodations. While I am not disgruntled about CRO and free dining, I am a little worried about the change in the ADR booking.

I am worried about not getting what I want for our planned well in advanced vacations. I think it would be a great perk to DVC members if given even a 120 day booking window. DVC members are usually planners. It is the nature of DVC.

As DVC members most of us know 7-11 months in advance when we are going to visit WDW. That is very different than those booking CRO who may be on the fence of when and where they may like to eat.

A lot of DVC members have been going to WDW for years sometimes many times in one year and know without a doubt where they would like to dine. Thus cutting down on the multiple booking problem that changed the ADR booking window.

I for one would really appreciate even a 120 day booking window for ADRs. I have always made my ADRs at 190 days. I never made more than one ADR for the time I wanted to dine and if I knew I was not going to use my ADR, I always canceled it. I really think I am able to do this because, as DVC a member I feel I know enough about the place to know where and when I want to eat.

JMHO

 

[Disney_Villain]

Maybe its time to dump DVC.

Maybe not. Take a look at this spreadsheet posted earlier this year on DIS and tell us that DVC isn't a good deal vs. getting discounted room rates on cash.

Spreadsheet fun!

Members get a great deal on accomodations and annual passes. Having annual passes, for us, means that we can get TIW. We also have 10% off almost all dining in Disneyland too (with the VGC opening, we really will appreciate this discount).

 

[Kickapoo Joie Juice]

I miss the 180 day ADR window a lot.

 

[chalee94]

Maybe its time to dump DVC.

if you bought for the perks or expecting to get special "status" with the mouse, you should sell.

seriously.

 

[Kickapoo Joie Juice]

I think it's a mistake for owners all to keep saying that "we didn't buy in for the perks" and "if you care about the perks then DVC is wrong for you".

If we keep saying that we don't care about them and they're not important to us, then Disney's going to take them all away!

They're probably reading this going, see, those DVC'ers won't bail if we get rid of ADR's, pool hopping, AP discounts, etc.

Look at how they pounce on those that DO complain.

 

[cogero]

I miss the 180 day ADR window a lot.

me too.

 

[DVCJones]

I think it's a mistake for owners all to keep saying that "we didn't buy in for the perks" and "if you care about the perks then DVC is wrong for you".

If we keep saying that we don't care about them and they're not important to us, then Disney's going to take them all away!

They're probably reading this going, see, those DVC'ers won't bail if we get rid of ADR's, pool hopping, AP discounts, etc.

Look at how they pounce on those that DO complain.

I have often thought the same thing.

 

[mrsR123]

A few things:

1) It would be different if they were actually taking things away. Then, yes, we should have fits.

2) Regular guests miss the 180 day dining timeframe, too.

3) The OP has 6 posts, folks! Please don't feed the trolls!

 

[Chuck S]

Remember that perks need to be of some benefit to both parties involved, Disney and the individual DVC Members to be viable.

For instance, the AP discount encourages more in-park days and enables the member to buy the TIW dining card...likely the increase in overall revenue is greater than the discount.

Discounts by any business entity is meant to increase overall sales by increasing volume, this is true whether it be Disney World or your local grocery store coupons. Since many of the onsite restaurants (especially at EPCOT and DtD) are not Disney operated, they can offer any discounts they wish to DVC Members, if they think it will increase revenue.

I really don't see WDW giving extended ADR booking privileges to DVC members, if they aren't giving them to all the other onsite guests. Disney needs both the long term DVC vacationer and they also need to fill up those cash rooms.

As long as we have the same chance at booking ADRs as all other onsite guests, I won't complain.