DVC members..Will you be using the 2008 DDP

DVC Members Will you be using the 2008 DDP?

  • Yes, it is still a good deal for us...

  • No, it is no longer a good deal for us..


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I don't see a whole lot of people adding a tip into the cost of the dining plan. I hope the servers don't pay the price with the changed DDP.

We ate with DDE at CG on Saturday. Our waitperson called our attention to the fact that the gratuity was added on. He said that he wished it weren't like that, but it was. I wonder how many people will be complaining.

Bobbi:goodvibes
 
We are staying at SSR our home resort (for the first time) from June 29-July 11, with DS 14 and DS 5. We are strongly considering the Dining Plan, due to the fact that even before we considered it we already were planning on doing one TS meal a day. For our family DH, myself and the kids it seems to be about a $25 a day savings which x 13 adds up. And that is not factoring the most expensive item, but just the average. It also makes it nice for the snacks for kids, when we are paying OOP I find I usually tell them no, when they want some type of novelty snack. This way they can have it, have fun on vacation and I know the cost before hand. Also we plan on having breakfast in our room, using CS for lunch, and TS for dinner. We also are going to treat ourselves to Narcoossees on our 2nd to the last night using our TS credits from the night we arrive to make up the 2 credits per person.
 
No. Two reasons: 10 year old and 3 year old this year (that's one adult and one child to pay for on the plan). Both of them eat like birds and the idea of paying for the 10 year old as an adult is crazy in my mind. Second reason: too much food. There is no incentive now.
 
We're just finishing up our "experiment week" on the DDP (today is our last day)...we arrived w/"the plan" of eating what and when we wanted, and then comparing what we would have spent out of pocket, versus what we did spend on the combination of OOP food and DDP cost...

The results (absent one day--today--today we have two CS and two TS credits left, both of which we plan to use...whether we add snacks remains to be seen):

DDP can still be a good value, if you plan for it...for example, we've had two CS meals at Morrocco at Epcot, which were wonderful and which were valued at $39.80 each (could have spent $41.80--each time one of us had a meal that was $2 less than the max). No tax, no tip on CS. So that one counter service "paid for" half of our DDP for that day! Most of our meals, though, we wound up either spending or saving $5-$10 over OOP, and two were really "bad value." (One was California Grill dinner--which we loved--but just did not get two TS credit's worth of food; the other was Brown Derby (we also loved it) at lunch, and that was even worse...our total bill at Brown Derby was $45...and it would have been two TS credits! Very bad DDP value on both the signature spots we tried)...

We also discovered that DDP takes away a lot of the flexibility about eating that we enjoy...e.g., one day we ate at Yak & Yeti at AK at lunch, and another we ate at Beaches 'n Cream--both TS credits, which would have required a CS dinner (or, if you're doing what we were doing, a TS dinner and paying cash rather than using DDP)...

Snacks are in fact much reduced...BCV Market Place still lets you use a snack credit for one of their pastries (which top out at $3.89 in cash), and for a fruit parfait for b'fast (I'm a big fan of that)...but the fudge shop at the Studios (it's going to take me FOREVER to change over from MGM to Hollywood!) will no longer take a snack credit for a piece of fudge (at $3.59)...I've heard (but haven't tested) that any "package food" is no longer on the DDP snack credit list (except the single-serve chip bag)...

Another change Disney has made to both DDP checks and cash checks: they list an 18% tip and a 20% tip; the server points that out, tells you you can add nothing, more, or less than the suggested amount, and asks you to total prior to running the DDP or credit card (or taking cash)...I didn't like this at all...it puts a lot of psychological pressure (at least on me) to give 20% (the difference, even on our big bills, between 18% and 20% made me feel "cheap" to go 18% instead of 20%...and some of the service we got didn't merit a "bonus" tip...I was particularly bothered by this at the "semi-service" places...a 20% tip at CA Grill seems to me to be a very different "service decision" than a 20% tip at a buffet! We had a couple of our best servers at the buffets we chose (Boma, Cape May) and at Brown Derby...no one "bad" but a couple "just fine but not good either"...it was bothersome to tip that 20% for average service at a buffet -- and I was surprised at how much pressure I felt to use the Disney-provided 20% amount (unless I was going up)...also, at CA Grill, we waited for just 5 minutes in the bar area...that server (who noted we'd be seated so soon that it didn't make a lot of sense for her to bring us anything--she gets a gold star for that) told us that Disney CMs are still learning the new plan--and that they don't like it because they "always" get tips greater than 20%! That bugged me a lot...it was irrelevant, since she didn't bring us anything and so no tip was in order...but to be told that the CA Grill servers expect more than 20% was jarring to say the least...

We had also thought we'd try the deluxe plan on an upcoming trip--and choose a signature dining place and/or a dinner show each day...but from our Brown Derby and CA Grill experience, the dining plan is a very bad value for two-credit places...(of course, w/the deluxe plan, the appetizer is included whereas on the base plan we paid OOP for appetizers--typically, we chose one and shared it--if I think about it, that might change my mind...)

So, I think the DDP is over for us. I have a trip coming next month, w/a family including one adult, one 11-year-old and one 9-year-old...currently, we've signed up for the plan, but I'm going to go home and talk to my friend about canceling it...I think it will be an even poorer value given the ages of the kids...the 9-year-old is a boy who's a good eater--he's likely to be unhappy being restricted to kid plan choices (which we decided was not a big deal, as both my friend & I like the kid plan choices so we figured it would all work out) and the 11-year-old is a girl who doesn't eat anywhere near enough (variety or quantity) to justify the kind of careful planning you have to do to make the DDP a value.

Bottom line: if you find it acceptable to peruse menus ahead of time, and plan your meals accordingly, the DDP remains a good deal (even if not as good a deal as it used to be)...but if you like to be more spontaneous about what and where to eat, the plan no longer makes a lot of financial sense...for us, this week, I'm figuring (w/out counting today's snacks), that I spent about $30 total less (for two people, for one week) on the DDP-provided meals than I would have w/out the DDP...$30 is still $30, but for $30 I'd rather have the extra flexibility!

Everyone is different of course...and people who've never used the DDP will like it better than those of us who are experiencing a significant cut-back over the past 2-3 years...

Dani
 

We've used it many times in the past, but won't be doing it anymore. removing the appetizer wasn't that big a deal...I agree with those who say there should be a choice of app or dessert. However, the tip being removed is what makes it of no value anymore. On a sitdown meal, the tip can easily be $20 or more. That alone makes it no value. If I calcuate what we eat and then add the tips, it comes out to a break even, or more! And that's only if we order the more expensive meals on the menus...which we might not always want. We might do the DDE again. We did in the past but rarely used it because we ended up using the DP.

And now that you can't use the snack credits for DONUTS, well, FORGET IT! :rotfl2:
 
What counter service at Morocco was valued at $39.80 each? Is this a typo? I just ate there and I didnt see anything there that was very expensive( over $20)
 
We also discovered that DDP takes away a lot of the flexibility about eating that we enjoy
This is why we've never seriously considered getting it. We often don't quite do one TS per day on average---more like 2 out of every three---so the DDP just never quite "fit" us. DDE works in years we go more than once. Otherwise, we just pay cash as we go.
 
I used the DDP on my last trip and really loved it but I will not be doing it again. With the changes it is no longer worth it to me. If they had left the gratuity on I probably would have. That was the deal breaker for me.
 
What counter service at Morocco was valued at $39.80 each? Is this a typo? I just ate there and I didnt see anything there that was very expensive( over $20)

I think the poster meant for the entire meal for 2 people. There is a cs meal at the Tangerine that is $14.99 for the platter (lamb and chicken shwarma platter, I think), plus drinks of course makes it up to around $17.50 plus tax.
 
I wish the DDE wasn't the cost that it is. With only 2 of us, it is a no-brainer not to get it.

With all the changes in the DDP, I doubt we will use it again unless it is for just 1 night or 2 to use for the Candlelight Processional. Or if it is free. That's all right. We will not be tied to reservations, long waits and too much food!
 
I voted No, it is no longer a good deal for us, but in reality it was NEVER a good deal for us...

We always get a villa with a kitchen, and we do use the kitchen for at least 1/3 of our meals. There is only so much eating out our bodies can take.
 
laurabearz.....

Is that the appliance guy that I see in the commercials at WDW in
your siggy:lmao: :rotfl2:
those commercials are too funny:happytv:
Kerri
 
Sorry for the confusion...yes, the Morocco counter service tab of $39.80 was for two meals...one lamb & chicken platter at $14.95, one meatballs platter at $15, two baclava's, and 2 drinks...the cash register total was $39.80...(that also included tax)...
 
You'd better wait a few months before making a decision to use DDP for F&W.

From the early reports coming back this week, snacks on DDP 2008 are hardly recognizable. Little bags of potato chips, no donuts (NO DONUTS!!! :scared1: ), basically nothing valued over $2 is allowed as a snack any more.

I'm just waiting for the explosion on the DDP board if someone reports Dole Whips are no longer allowed!

Doesn't seem likely that the tapas at F&W would be a snack credit this year...maybe 2 for a CS credit?
Oh no--I am NOT using the DDP this year because I want to eat at the F&WF using cash..and now hearing this I'm even more sure that we won't get it.

Dag-those boxes of Entenmanns were the best deal!
 
I voted no, but only because we have never used it and don't plan on it. We actually "enjoy" cooking during vacation (some :lmao: :lmao: ) and it seems like you have to make so many adr's before you go.

Anyway, it just isn't for us.
 
we have always used the dining plan for the last four trips. This upcoming trip there are only three of us (so tip amount is truely up to us!-no forcing 18% for bad service-but we usually tip around 25% because two of the three are kids and it is not the servers fault the food is cheaper for them). But since we will only have one adult and two kis on the plan it is still decent for us to go ahead with the plan. For around 60 a day(plus tip) it is worth it to not worry about it. And now that they have changed the snacks credits (no more bags of bagels..single items only!!) we wont end upwith too much extra food. and since we are going for 19 days I do not want to deal with cooking at all!!
 
becase we're still on the fence. I sat down with the menus and a calculator, and based on what we would actually eat, it would come out roughly the same cost whether we use the '08 DDP or not. The difference is more flexibility without the DDP vs. more food with it (though not as much more as in past years, and the lack of appetizer tips the scale for us toward NOT using the DDP because we prefer appys over desserts in general). So our short answer would be No.

That said, I think we are likely to use DDP for our grand gathering trip this spring just to simplify things with our large group. There are a couple members of our group that would have a heart attack and not have a good time if they were paying attention to the prices on the menus, so we know that for them, the DDP is the way for all of us to have a better time.
 
You'd better wait a few months before making a decision to use DDP for F&W.

From the early reports coming back this week, snacks on DDP 2008 are hardly recognizable. Little bags of potato chips, no donuts (NO DONUTS!!! :scared1: ), basically nothing valued over $2 is allowed as a snack any more.

I'm just waiting for the explosion on the DDP board if someone reports Dole Whips are no longer allowed!

Doesn't seem likely that the tapas at F&W would be a snack credit this year...maybe 2 for a CS credit?


The two dollar statement doesn't exactly seem true based on this thread

http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=1683477

The "donuts" and large chip bags were always a loophole. Only in the "getting all you can eat world" does A SNACK equal 12 donuts...:rotfl2:
 
We will be using DDP our next trip and are going to see if we save anything. I think we will propably break even, but for us it is the convience of having everything paid for up front and not having to carry a lot of extra cash with us. So, yes we will probably always use it for convience more then anything.
 



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