Dvc Facebook site- direct v resale

[Dean]

So I just joined a FB dvc site. There's a few people who are seemingly pissed and rude about the resale market-- and makes an effort to put down/denigrate those who bought resale.

I'm quite taken aback. I know a ton of people who bought direct... And wiil buy resale going forward.

We also bought cash and have the means to buy direct... But why would I? It's a depreciating asset, but much less so on the resale market. It just made logical sense to go via the secondary resale market.

Just so weird and off putting. The guys profile isn't that impressive (not that one needs to be impressive for me to hold off feeling offended)... But it just doesn't make sense.

Has anyone else encountered this "I am better than thou due to my direct point status" attitude?

He even called resale points "tainted". Tainted?!

They'd really love my RCI stays at around $650 a week inclusive.

 

[goofy4prez]

I really don't care what anyone else thinks of how/what/when I bought my points, they're my points and I'm thrilled with them. People on Facebook (and all around the Web, really) like to judge other people. This direct vs. resale thing is just another example of that.

Well said and couldn't agree more. On Facebook the opinion seems to be direct, here on the DIS resale is the popular opinion. If the one buying the points is happy that is what matters. I tried twice to buy resale; the first time the seller backed out of the agreement made between the two of us through the broker, the second Disney exercised their right of first refusal. For some resale is best for them; For me, I did not want the process to drag out any longer and decided to buy direct. I have no regrets and am looking forward to my first stay as a DVC member and staying at my home resort the VGF in just four more days.

 

[bethifoody]

I actually left a FB group after a moderator removed a post b/c there was 'discourse' over resale vs. direct. There was a 'direct' proponent trying to tell the person who'd asked the question that resale points expire before direct points. Another guy & I were trying to clarify that resale points expire at the same time as direct purchased points at the same resort (so, resale AKV vs. direct AKV) I'm not sure if he thought that buying direct automatically gives you a 50 year contract, or if he thought that you can't buy older properties direct... I have no idea what his thought process was. And the moderator deleted the thread before there was any resolution. It was a little ridiculous.

 

[WilsonFlyer]

If you take the sight knowing what it is, I find it mildly entertaining sometimes. I have long since stopped posting to it though because they are obviously all a bunch of know-nothing/think-they-know-everything crybabies.

 

[EllieBride]

I am surprised at reading this. Usually it's the other way around. (ours are all direct).

That's been my experience as well right here on these boards. Even to the point where I've considered quitting the DisBoards DVC forums because people have acted like my DH and I are stupid to be considering a direct purchase. Our first purchase was re-sale and we are very pleased with it, but for personal reasons, we want our next purchase to be direct (in case anyone is wondering, it's because we think the cost savings to buy VGF isn't worth the loss of benefits we would be giving up. And yes, that's an entirely different discussion not worth getting into here.). I honestly don't understand why people have to belittle other people's decisions. I'm sure there are plenty of people who buy direct without doing research and don't realize that the resale market exists. But for those that do their homework and prefer the direct option - for whatever reason - or for those that prefer the resale market - again, for whatever reason - why can't that be good enough? Why would anyone act like points - direct OR resale - are tainted? I just don't get it.

 

[Dean]

That's been my experience as well right here on these boards. Even to the point where I've considered quitting the DisBoards DVC forums because people have acted like my DH and I are stupid to be considering a direct purchase. Our first purchase was re-sale and we are very pleased with it, but for personal reasons, we want our next purchase to be direct (in case anyone is wondering, it's because we think the cost savings to buy VGF isn't worth the loss of benefits we would be giving up. And yes, that's an entirely different discussion not worth getting into here.). I honestly don't understand why people have to belittle other people's decisions. I'm sure there are plenty of people who buy direct without doing research and don't realize that the resale market exists. But for those that do their homework and prefer the direct option - for whatever reason - or for those that prefer the resale market - again, for whatever reason - why can't that be good enough? Why would anyone act like points - direct OR resale - are tainted? I just don't get it.

Ellie, I'm probably one of the more vocal on this subject. However, I make every attempt to speak to the principle and not the person. But if one says driving a red car is bad and one drive's a red car, there is a certain amount of association that is unavoidable.

 

[twinsouvenirs]

That's been my experience as well right here on these boards. Even to the point where I've considered quitting the DisBoards DVC forums because people have acted like my DH and I are stupid to be considering a direct purchase. Our first purchase was re-sale and we are very pleased with it, but for personal reasons, we want our next purchase to be direct (in case anyone is wondering, it's because we think the cost savings to buy VGF isn't worth the loss of benefits we would be giving up. And yes, that's an entirely different discussion not worth getting into here.). I honestly don't understand why people have to belittle other people's decisions. I'm sure there are plenty of people who buy direct without doing research and don't realize that the resale market exists. But for those that do their homework and prefer the direct option - for whatever reason - or for those that prefer the resale market - again, for whatever reason - why can't that be good enough? Why would anyone act like points - direct OR resale - are tainted? I just don't get it.

I think if you are buying VGF it totally makes sense to go direct. There isn't enough cost difference to save to make resale and the delay/hassle worth it, plus you can specify exactly what you want with direct and subdivide the contract into however many smaller contracts you'd like (great for resale or estate planning). For bigger contracts at older resorts, REEEEEsale but I think you are right on about the VGF cost-benefit. Says someone who bought SSR resale and VGF direct

 

[twinsouvenirs]

I'm in a few DVC fb groups and they are often spirited and off topic, but I have seen shockingly little discussion of this issue on the main group I frequent. Of course I also haven't been on in a few days. The discussion I do see tends towards resale.

 

[KAT4DISNEY]

I think if you are buying VGF it totally makes sense to go direct. There isn't enough cost difference to save to make resale and the delay/hassle worth it, plus you can specify exactly what you want with direct and subdivide the contract into however many smaller contracts you'd like (great for resale or estate planning). For bigger contracts at older resorts, REEEEEsale but I think you are right on about the VGF cost-benefit. Says someone who bought SSR resale and VGF direct

Reports are that DVC is not taking waitlists for points for VGF so direct may not even be an option. Same foe BCV and VGC.

 

[bumbershoot]

I think if you are buying VGF it totally makes sense to go direct.

And I think that most people here say the same thing. VGF and Poly.

 

[Dean]

And I think that most people here say the same thing. VGF and Poly.

What I feel is that IF (big if) the resorts make sense where resale isn't a big savings and/or won't likely be available, then retail is the main option. That's VGF, Poly, VGC and maybe Aulani due to either smaller price differences, lack of availability and the fixed week option. The problem is that for most people and essentially all new buyers, they either don't know enough to know where they want to stay or or already plan to use DVC use it in such a way that buying at all is not a reasonable choice at that level. The size of the group where DVC resale at BLT or lower makes sense but where VGF, Poly or similar would also make sense is MUCH smaller. I'd throw a ball park figure out that if we define those where DVC makes sense at $100 a pt or less as 100%, those where VGF and the like make sense as a primary and main purchase is maybe 1-3% at most (my guess is really less than 1%) with all of those being current owners who are adding or plan to buy then sell what they have or possibly a very experiences Disney/DVC person who isn't currently a owner.

 

[EllieBride]

I think if you are buying VGF it totally makes sense to go direct. There isn't enough cost difference to save to make resale and the delay/hassle worth it, plus you can specify exactly what you want with direct and subdivide the contract into however many smaller contracts you'd like (great for resale or estate planning). For bigger contracts at older resorts, REEEEEsale but I think you are right on about the VGF cost-benefit. Says someone who bought SSR resale and VGF direct

Thanks for the vote of support. I've really been feeling in the minority around here and have pretty much dropped out of the boards - it just hasn't felt very welcoming or friendly. Even the color of my car was criticized, but whatever... I did see on your trip report that you have twins about the same age as mine. Mine will turn 3 this August. Every day is an adventure with them, so no need to get bummed out by people's opinions on here

 

[suebeelin]

Thanks for the vote of support. I've really been feeling in the minority around here and have pretty much dropped out of the boards - it just hasn't felt very welcoming or friendly. Even the color of my car was criticized, but whatever... I did see on your trip report that you have twins about the same age as mine. Mine will turn 3 this August. Every day is an adventure with them, so no need to get bummed out by people's opinions on here

I'm so sorry you were criticized for your purchase!! That's your choice and your money and only you know what is best for you!!!

On the other hand, the FB post was very weird. People seemed proud and "I'm richer or better than thou" for having bought direct. It was definitely strange.

Come back!! I welcome you !!

 

[EllieBride]

Come back!! I welcome you !!

Thanks!!! I love my re-sale BCV points. And hopefully one day soon we will have some VGF points, too. And when we do, the BCV points will not be given second-class treatment just because they were purchased resale, LOL.

 

[suebeelin]

Thanks!!! I love my re-sale BCV points. And hopefully one day soon we will some VGF points, too. And when we do, the BCV points will not be given second-class treatment just because they were purchased resale, LOL.

You were criticized for buying BCV?! The Waitlist is closed for them now! Good for you!

 

[twinsouvenirs]

Thanks for the vote of support. I've really been feeling in the minority around here and have pretty much dropped out of the boards - it just hasn't felt very welcoming or friendly. Even the color of my car was criticized, but whatever... I did see on your trip report that you have twins about the same age as mine. Mine will turn 3 this August. Every day is an adventure with them, so no need to get bummed out by people's opinions on here

I am TOTALLY PMing you about these twins!!!!!

 

[EllieBride]

You were criticized for buying BCV?! The Waitlist is closed for them now! Good for you!

No, just criticized for buying VGF...

 

[suebeelin]

No, just criticized for buying VGF...

Waitlist closed for VGF too. You kinda got the two resorts EVERYONE wants ...

VGF is reselling at $145. I don't think resales are worth the hassle for a $20pp savings. Plus it's your money. And as of a week ago, you can't even get on the Waitlist to buy direct for VGF!!

I'm jealous!!

 

[EllieBride]

Waitlist closed for VGF too. You kinda got the two resorts EVERYONE wants ...

I think we called to get on the VGF waitlist on March 31. Our guide keeps telling us we are getting closer to the top of the waitlist, but I'm not so sure about that. It feels like it's taking an age. I guess I'm just impatient. So at two months, we could be well on our way by now with a re-sale, but my husband wants to be able to have the option of using the direct purchase options for other things (even if those other things aren't considered the best value). His choice since he's the one who is paying, not me

 

[edk35]

We have both and as far as I am concerned.... it really doesn't matter where you got them.