DVC Beds…. Why?

[Girlstar30]

I want a king too so that part makes sense.

I guess what you're saying is that it's more the psychological factor of "a bed I have to pull down is less-than" versus "this bed will make me sleep worse in some way."

I think some people might be objecting to the Murphy beds because they think they're literally WORSE beds, that's the part I wanted to clarify.

Its that my wife rolls around everywhere at night lol and yes I find the queen to be more comfortable than the murphy, I like the top blanket better and I sleep better.

The murphy is comfortable tho, it feels different to me, maybe because its lower? The mattress feels thinner, idk why. I just wish that queen was a king for us both.

 

[Cfabar1]

The could certainly do the duo studios as kings vs queens since they are already a category.

But, for the other studios, unless they start new and make them all that way without compromising size…it just makes it more complicated for booking purposes.

Do the Murphy beds come with a King Bed option because that would be the only roadblock?

For us, having the extra space is more important than having a larger bed.

Then again, I’ll book a 1 bedroom at times when it’s just me.

I think the Novabed only comes in one size... but I might just not be seeing a King option.

 

[Cfabar1]

It's been a few years but the last I did the math using a super elaborate model with time value of money, opportunity cost, etc. I think I came out to 2 bedroom villas being right around 50%, studios being slightly better, 1 bedrooms being quite a bit worse, and specialty accommodations like bungalows and treehouses all over the place.

I would believe that...

I also believe from a marketing/sell DVC points standpoint they could easily make the case...

Grand Floridian - Deluxe Studio $850 a night or so in September 2026 including taxes - no discounts available right now (though that will almost certainly change)
Grand Floridian - Deluxe Studio - 17 points per night in the same travel period. Non-complicated math - all in cost of say $13/pp initial buy in + one year of dues = $221 per night

Savings of over 70%

DVCs publicity department isn't to be a financial planner or explain why $850 a night is unlikely to be a reasonable price in September, or how realistic that $13/pp initial buy in + dues will be - especially over the long term with dues increases, etc.

 

[Girlstar30]

I think the Novabed only comes in one size... but I might just not be seeing a King option.

I would be totally cool with a king murphy and book

 

[muppets3d]

I want a king too so that part makes sense.

I guess what you're saying is that it's more the psychological factor of "a bed I have to pull down is less-than" versus "this bed will make me sleep worse in some way."

I think some people might be objecting to the Murphy beds because they think they're literally WORSE beds, that's the part I wanted to clarify.

They are not the same mattress. The murphy bed mattress is thinner, perhaps without a pillow top? I'm not sure the exact difference but it is thinner and not quite as comfortable as the full-time Queen bed.

I think the Novabed only comes in one size... but I might just not be seeing a King option.

Disney is a big enough buyer, I'm sure they could order King murphy beds if they wanted to. The question is would it be too heavy for guests to pull down, are the ceiling/soffits high enough to accommodate the larger mattress, etc.

 

[Sandisw]

They are not the same mattress. The murphy bed mattress is thinner, perhaps without a pillow top? I'm not sure the exact difference but it is thinner and not quite as comfortable as the full-time Queen bed.



Disney is a big enough buyer, I'm sure they could order King murphy beds if they wanted to. The question is would it be too heavy for guests to pull down, are the ceiling/soffits high enough to accommodate the larger mattress, etc.

Didn’t even think about ceilings.. or how hard to pull down.

 

[Girlstar30]

They are not the same mattress. The murphy bed mattress is thinner, perhaps without a pillow top? I'm not sure the exact difference but it is thinner and not quite as comfortable as the full-time Queen bed.



Disney is a big enough buyer, I'm sure they could order King murphy beds if they wanted to. The question is would it be too heavy for guests to pull down, are the ceiling/soffits high enough to accommodate the larger mattress, etc.

I agree it feels way thinner and harder

 

[Girlstar30]

Didn’t even think about ceilings.. or how hard to pull down.

They just need to make the room taller then, we Disney couples need our kings!

 

[kboo]

I will once again be the toddler banging on his high chair about how DVC needs to build some King Studios for married couples traveling without kids. It's the biggest gap in their inventory IMO.

I agree, a studio with a king would have super high demand. But given that studios with queens (and duo studios with queens) get booked up faster than almost any category, there's no incentive for DVC to provide them.

There's almost always good availability in 1br over the other room sizes. They are the gateway drug to buying more points. Why would DVC make king beds even more available for lower points?

When we first bought in to DVC, our younger kid was a baby. We bought points at BLT thinking (ha, rookie moveI) that we could go once a year and alternate studios and 1br. Well, by the time points were loaded, we had banked points to burn and fewer studios to choose from, and our first stay at BLT was in a 1br. After that, we only stayed in studios that had a murphy - we could put DD1 in the single murphy and a crib/pack and play, and the studio STILL HAD A SOFA. It felt so luxurious.

That first DVC stay in a BLT 1br really spoiled us - 2 bathrooms and our own room! Of course we started looking at more resale contracts right away...

Fast forward several years, we have always booked at least a 1br (and sometimes a 2br) with our tween and teen who don't always want to share a bed, even though they are very sisterly to each other. DH and I get a big bed and our own room, and the kids can decide how they allocate the sleeping surfaces in the living room (or 2nd bedroom).

 

[WinterSolider]

I agree, a studio with a king would have super high demand. But given that studios with queens (and duo studios with queens) get booked up faster than almost any category, there's no incentive for DVC to provide them.

They could be smaller square footage, so more units in a building, so more points to sell.

 

[Steelers0854]

I would have kept it I would actually prefer that over 1 queen and 1 Murphy, where we always end up sleeping separately to spread out.

This is exactly what e do now. And the Murphy bed is far and away better than the horrific couches they had, that is truly a miserable experience. My back has never recovered lol

Disney's Murphy beds use the exact same mattresses that their normal beds do.

100% disagree. They may be the same brand, but I would be shocked if they were the exact same mattress. While I have never directly compared them I see no way they could be the same based on the thinkness.

 

[Brian Noble]

I think the question is: What is a studio?

For some people, it is a way to replace the hotel room they used to stay in, with their family of more-than-two. For others, it is a room for a couple without kids in tow. The former would never want to lose the second sleeping surface, the latter might prefer a king bed and would do without the second sleeping surface in a heartbeat.

we Disney couples need our kings!

Not all of us...

 

[Chuck S]

And DVC is not/can not modify any existing 4 person studios down to 2 person duo studios. They can not, by law, substantially modify the product that was purchased. They can ADD New construction duo studios to existing resorts, most likely not cost effective at all, or they can put them in new resorts from the start, if they see a substantial need to do that.

 

[tidefan]

And DVC is not/can not modify any existing 4 person studios down to 2 person duo studios. They can not, by law, substantially modify the product that was purchased. They can ADD New construction duo studios to existing resorts, most likely not cost effective at all, or they can put them in new resorts from the start, if they see a substantial need to do that.

I think that the point was that when they added the hotel rooms at BPK to the VGF inventory, they created a new category anyway, the "Resort Studio", so you could have created a "Resort Queen" and a "Resort King" if they had wanted to.

Note: I personally think that would have been more palatable for the addition.