DVC AP Discount

[tfc3rid]

I askedthis question as well on the Misc. forum... I've read the Perk FAQ regarding AP Discount and who 'immediate family' applies... I'm going with my fiancee in October and wonder if the Discount applies to her (she lives at my address and has the Drivers License to prove it...)

My thinking is that the discount would not apply to her... Am I right?

 

[Granny]

The discount would not apply to her unless her name is also on your DVC deed.

 

[tfc3rid]

But it applies to immediate family living at your home address, including borther and sister-in-law according to the DVC member perks site... They certainly would not be on your deed.

 

[carolina_yankee]

The discount would not apply to her unless her name is also on your DVC deed.

That's not true.

According to the dvc website,

Disney Vacation ClubMembers and their immediate family (living in the same household) are eligible to receive discounts on select new and renewed Walt Disney World Annual and Premium Annual Passes.

To purchase the pass,

Passes can be purchased online at the Walt Disney World Ticket Store or by visiting any Guest Relations location at all four Walt Disney World Theme Parks and the Downtown Disney area.

To show qualificaiton for the pass,

Your Disney Vacation Club Member ID Card must be provided and ALL ADULTS must present a valid driver's license or state identification card showing they reside in the same household. Limit 8 purchases per household.

If you order the AP in advance, you have to order and pay for it, then be present when it is picked up with your member ID. Otherwise, you and fiance could just go to the locations and she can make the purcahse as long you show your ID and you both have DLs showing same residence.

If they ask, say you're married. In this day and age, the definition of family is very broad. As long as you are at the same address, they're not going to quibble.

Dirk

 

[disneynutz]

That's not true.

According to the dvc website,


To purchase the pass,


To show qualificaiton for the pass,


If you order the AP in advance, you have to order and pay for it, then be present when it is picked up with your member ID. Otherwise, you and fiance could just go to the locations and she can make the purcahse as long you show your ID and you both have DLs showing same residence.

If they ask, say you're married. In this day and age, the definition of family is very broad. As long as you are at the same address, they're not going to quibble.

Dirk

 

[Granny]

That's not true.

According to the dvc website,


To purchase the pass,


To show qualificaiton for the pass,


If you order the AP in advance, you have to order and pay for it, then be present when it is picked up with your member ID. Otherwise, you and fiance could just go to the locations and she can make the purcahse as long you show your ID and you both have DLs showing same residence.

If they ask, say you're married. In this day and age, the definition of family is very broad. As long as you are at the same address, they're not going to quibble.

Dirk

The question was whether the discount applies to her. It does not, as she is not a member of the immediate family of the DVC owner.

Can someone lie about their marital status and get away with it? I don't know, but I don't think that's what the question was.

But it applies to immediate family living at your home address, including borther and sister-in-law according to the DVC member perks site... They certainly would not be on your deed.

Those people would be considered immediate family by Disney. A fiancee would not, for obvious reasons.

So the only legitimate way someone who is not in your immediate family at your address can qualify for the discounted AP would be if they were also an owner.

 

[OKW Lover]

That's not true.

According to the dvc website,


To purchase the pass,


To show qualificaiton for the pass,


If you order the AP in advance, you have to order and pay for it, then be present when it is picked up with your member ID. Otherwise, you and fiance could just go to the locations and she can make the purcahse as long you show your ID and you both have DLs showing same residence.

If they ask, say you're married. In this day and age, the definition of family is very broad. As long as you are at the same address, they're not going to quibble.

Dirk

There is actually no need to "prove" you are married. So long as your license has the same address, you're covered. This provision was broadly worded specifically to allow non-married couples to receive the benefit.

 

[flyerron]

The question is whether the contract allows fot the fiance to get the discount. The question as to the ability to get it is different. Why not try to get a real answer Anonymously from DVC.

 

[carolina_yankee]

The question was whether the discount applies to her. It does not, as she is not a member of the immediate family of the DVC owner.

I actually would disagree with that, and think I'm not cheating the system. A fiance living with her future husband is a far cry from two roommates, and in some cultures might already be considered 'family.' If Disney defined "immediate family" or said, "as determined by Florida law" then I'd agree with you.

If you have strict observance of what legally constitutes a family, what about same-sex partners? In Massechusetts and NJ they are legally "family" (I'm uncertain about other states that have various forms of domestic partnership). Does this mean that only same-sex couples from those two states get the benefit (or from Canada, or any of the European countries that include such definitions) but not from elsewhere?

Disney has to put some sort of non-discriminatory perameters to the discount to avoid getting in trouble, but notice that they also limit the number of passes to 8.

Dirk

 

[LoveMyDisneyCats]

There's alot of women out there who don't take the married last name... as long as you have the same address on her license, I would think it'd be fine. There's also alot of families out there that are mom/dad/kids, but aren't officially married- but they are immediate and only family. I agree that the limit of 8 per household is a way to make sure people don't abuse it. I doubt WDW is going to checking into specifics unless it looks suspicious.

 

[flyerron]

Dirk, I would agree with you. I wonder if anyone out there has actually done this, or is this all speculation? I should think Disney would be liberal on this interpretation.

 

[carolina_yankee]

In my own case, Disney has never had a problem treating my partner as immediate family. The one area we haven't tried is the AP discount, but will later in September. At that point, it will be moot, though, because we will have had our civil union. Still, when we placed the order - they didn't ask, just took the info and told me to be sure I was there with membership card and for us both to have photo ID.

As OKWLover pointed out, the policy is both broad and vague, leaving Disney plenty of room to be generous but challenge anything they deem suspicious. They aren't interested in policing domestic arrangements, but protecting their revenue flow.

Eight guys the same age, wearing university logo gear who happen to share an address at a fraternity house might get closer scrutiny.

Dirk

 

[Mickey Moose]

You can look below to see an image of the AP ordering screen and the only thing disney cares about, "DVC membership card and all adults in the same household".

Nothing else matters.......

 

[disneynutz]

From the DVC Member website:

Q: Who is eligible to receive the Annual Pass discount?
A: Disney Vacation Club Members receive a discount on the Pass for themselves and their immediate family residing in the same household only. At the time of purchase or redemption, your Disney Vacation Club Member ID Card must be provided and ALL ADULTS must present a valid driver's license or state identification card showing they reside in the same household.

Q: Who is defined as "immediate family"?
A: "Immediate family" is defined by Walt Disney World Resort for discount purposes as noted below: Spouse/Registered Domestic Partner, Parent/Step Parent, Mother-In-Law/Father-In-Law, Child/Step Child, Brother/Stepbrother, Sister/Stepsister, Brother-In-Law/Sister-In-Law, Grandparent, and Grandchild.

Q: Can I use my discount to buy a Pass for someone other than myself or immediate family residing in the same household?
A: No. This discount is exclusive for Members and may not be transferred. This perk may be revoked in the event of abuse.

Seems pretty clear to me.

 

[carolina_yankee]

Eh - inconsistent information on the Disney sites. I'd say, go with Mickey Moose's version and not worry about the rest! If Disney were overly concerend, then they would have defined "immediate family" in every single context. You can't assume someone who purchases the tickets online has read the FAQ. The order page is straight forward enough.

We can all think of many Disney policies that have stated restrictions routinely overlooked.

To the OP: Can you use your discount for your fiance's AP - yes. Will Disney tell you "yes" if you ask them, who knows?

Dirk

 

[tfc3rid]

Thanks everyone for the feedback... Reading by the 'FAQ's' it would seem that it is not available for her. I'm stil debating whether or not to even get it but I've been curious of this...

In addition, is the DVC AP online ordering site down?? I click on the links from the DVC homepage and nothing happens...

 

[Mickey Moose]

In addition, is the DVC AP on line ordering site down?? I click on the links from the DVC homepage and nothing happens...

It is working for me now. I cut that graphic from the page last night when I posted the image in this thread.

If I were you I would go ahead and purchase the discounted ticket voucher. There are many contexts for the term spouse and Disney is well aware of them and despite claims that the FAQ is clear cut, I respectfully disagree as Disney could have chosen to use the words Husband and wife or man and woman instead of spouse (which is subject to interpretation) and they did not.

The Etymology of the word spouse includes: Latin "sponsus" betrothed man, groom & sponsa betrothed woman, bride, both from sponsus, past participle of spondEre to promise, betroth; hence the relationship to the definition of "fiance" noun, A person to whom one is engaged to be married: betrothed, fiancée. Whatever you decide to do, most importantly, good luck with your bride to be!

 

[tfc3rid]

I had to contact DVC yesterday about possibly modifying my reservations for my upcoming trip... I asked the question of the MS agent I spoke with and she told me that as long as I have proof of residence, that's all I need to get the discount on both tickets...

 

[flyerron]

I had to contact DVC yesterday about possibly modifying my reservations for my upcoming trip... I asked the question of the MS agent I spoke with and she told me that as long as I have proof of residence, that's all I need to get the discount on both tickets...

I'm sure that is correct. I cannot imagine Disney giving you a hard time. Just do it & don't worry about it. I'm sure the intent is to rule out a bunch of roomates or multiple families living at the same address. A fiance at the same address IMHO is within the guidlines.
There is an old addage that goes "if you don't want to know the answer, don't ask the question". My point is to stop asking & just take action!

 

[OKW Lover]

In my own case, Disney has never had a problem treating my partner as immediate family. The one area we haven't tried is the AP discount, but will later in September. At that point, it will be moot, though, because we will have had our civil union. Still, when we placed the order - they didn't ask, just took the info and told me to be sure I was there with membership card and for us both to have photo ID.
Dirk

Dirk,
You won't have a problem getting the AP discount for your partner. Our daughter and her partner have no problem - they just show their driver's license with the same address. Its never even been questioned.