Duggars make 17!

[ducklite]

Actually, I would say it's better then a BigMac and fries.

For the recipe that was posted, I put down that it made 16 servings and here are the nutrional values.
355 calories
18 grams of fat
15 carbs

Here is the nutrional breakdown on some fast food
Big Mac
540 calories
29 grams of fat
45 carbs

cheeseburger
300 calories
12 grams of fat
33 carbs

small fry
250 calories
13 grams of fat
30 carbs


Now, the tater tot breakdown may be a bit off. I used an online thing and pulled info from a couple of sources. But I think it's pretty accurate (at least I hope it is ).

So, it's not that bad. Have some veggies or a salad with it and it is a heck of alot better then what alot of people eat for dinner at night.

I think that the numbers are a bit deceiving. That 16 servings are not 16 equal servings, they are 16 servings for the Duggars, meaning everything from a couple of spoonfuls for the youngest up to a much larger portion for the oldest. My guess is that if you took the mass of the cheeseburger and fries and compared it to an equal mass of the Tator Tot casserole, the nutritional content is about the same--maybe lower sodium with the casserole.

Anne

 

[chobie]

I never got that impression. Granted I haven't watched every one of their shows so I may have missed something, but did they (the parents) ever say that? Or was it just that a couple of the girls said they wanted to do that?

I beleive its in the homeschooling curriculm they use. The girls are exposed to gender appropriate careers such as midwife. It was mentioned in one of the shows I believe.

Did you get the impression that the girls are being encouraged to go off to whatever college they want to and pursue any career they wanted?

 

[DznyLvr2005]

I'm sure the parents don't teach them about sex ed, even though they have TONS of experience with that. How are they ever gonna know what that's all about if they don't learn it in school? And not dating anyone until you want to marry that person!? What is that all about? It's just crazy. How come Michelle and Jimmy Joe Jim Bobby-O got to go to regular schools... Michelle was even a cheerleader like in the pictures on the TV show. They had a normal life, why can't their kids...

 

[ducklite]

I beleive its in the homeschooling curriculm they use. The girls are exposed to gender appropriate careers such as midwife. It was mentioned in one of the shows I believe.

I believe you're correct.

Did you get the impression that the girls are being encouraged to go off to whatever college they want to and pursue any career they wanted?

The girls are being encouraged to pursue a career that they know would be "acceptable," and know to not even consider any career that they know wouldn't be acceptable for women to work in by their father. Frankly I think he'd be just as happy to marry them off and have them start making babies in a house built on his property as soon as they are 18.

Anne

 

[chobie]

I'm sure the parents don't teach them about sex ed, even though they have TONS of experience with that. How are they ever gonna know what that's all about if they don't learn it in school? And not dating anyone until you want to marry that person!? What is that all about? It's just crazy. How come Michelle and Jimmy Joe Jim Bobby-O got to go to regular schools... Michelle was even a cheerleader like in the pictures on the TV show. They had a normal life, why can't their kids...

Exactly! Don't they trust their kids to make the same good choices they did? Obviously not. I had some friends like that. They home schooled their kids because they did not like "values" being taught in public schools, but they had pictures up all over the place of their glory days in highschool. The mom was big into color guard and even coached it for a nearby high school. She was allowed to work for a public school but her kids could not attend them?

And yes, she was a friend Even though I disagreed with her choices I respected her right to make them.

 

[DznyLvr2005]

I wouldn't want to be the kids in the bedroom next to theirs

 

[meandtheguys2]

Exactly! Don't they trust their kids to make the same good choices they did? Obviously not. I had some friends like that. They home schooled their kids because they did not like "values" being taught in public schools, but they had pictures up all over the place of their glory days in highschool. The mom was big into color guard and even coached it for a nearby high school. She was allowed to work for a public school but her kids could not attend them?

And yes, she was a friend Even though I disagreed with her choices I respected her right to make them.

The fact that I worked in, let alone attended, the public schools is the reason my kids don't attend the public schools. I even have a photo or two around. Their dad and I even tell fun stories of those days...

I suspect there will be a rebel or two in the family. There are in the majority of families, aren't there? Does outside socialization guarantee anything? No, just like it isn't a guarantee to keep your kids secluded. When my brother started homeschooling in the eighties, I was certain that this would happen to my sweet niece and nephew. But, like many things, I was as wrong as can be. They didn't grow up to be drones, they didn't rebel, they excelled in college, and now both run their own businesses. Amazing what crow I have had to eat.

Regardless of whether or not one does have problems, though, I suspect that the skills and responsibility instilled will always be of benefit.

 

[Mkrop]

I would say that their values are raising their childing in a home that lives it's life according to the bible and God. That family is important and that is the responsibilty of everyone in the family to help out, including chores and helping younger siblings. Eating a healthy meal, staying healthy, schooling, music.

All values that my family and probably most families have but there is still something different about them, something odd. My kids do all of this but I do not see myself in the same category as them at all. What I really see when I watch the shows are a lack of indiviuality with the children and a lack of balance between work and play.

 

[BellePrincessBelle]

I don't think they have ever said that the girls should/could only be teachers or midwives. I think that it what a couple of the girls decided.

They have mentioned the kids going into their court reporting business. I believe the oldest son already is.

I do think their family is different and not something I would want, but they are doing what they think is best. They do dress differently, but even small families do that (I went to school with a couple of very religious girls. They weren't allowed to wear anything but modest clothing- only skirts).

I hope that each kid does get time alone with the parents and time that they don't have to take care of a sibling.

As for them not paying taxes, it might not be ethical, but it is allowed by law (some would consider tham smart for figuring out loopholes).

I do worry about the health of Michelle.

The bolding is mine
The Duggars are not the family with the court reporting company. That is another family with 15 children(I believe) that TLC featured. I believe their name was Arndt.

 

[Heidict]

I beleive its in the homeschooling curriculm they use. The girls are exposed to gender appropriate careers such as midwife. It was mentioned in one of the shows I believe.

Did you get the impression that the girls are being encouraged to go off to whatever college they want to and pursue any career they wanted?

Not sure what cirriculm they use. I remember them talking about them being homeschooled but I don't remember any specifics of what it was or what it taught. I looked on their website and while they have alot of links I couldn't find it.

I also don't recall the parents every stating that the girls had to go into "girly" jobs. I just remember a couple of girls mentioning nurse and teacher. Not sure if it is because this is something they love and want to do or if they feel like it's the best they are allowed to do.

I guess we will see in about 5-10 years what happens to them. I'm sure we will all be on here on the Dis talking about it also!!

 

[ducklite]

All values that my family and probably most families have but there is still something different about them, something odd. My kids do all of this but I do not see myself in the same category as them at all. What I really see when I watch the shows are a lack of indiviuality with the children and a lack of balance between work and play.

I also see no creativity. It's all black and white. There's nothing abstract in their lives, nothing that they have to make choices about, nothing that they have to use critical thinking skills for.

Anne

 

[Heidict]

I think that the numbers are a bit deceiving. That 16 servings are not 16 equal servings, they are 16 servings for the Duggars, meaning everything from a couple of spoonfuls for the youngest up to a much larger portion for the oldest. My guess is that if you took the mass of the cheeseburger and fries and compared it to an equal mass of the Tator Tot casserole, the nutritional content is about the same--maybe lower sodium with the casserole.

Anne

As I said I was just guessing at the serving size. But, I reduced it to 12 servings for the whole recipe. That would be 6 servings per pound of meat and bag of tater tots. Sounds like it would be a big enough serving for a teen or adult. Here is what it would come to (and I had to dig in my garbage at work to find the paper I wrote the figures on in order to recalculate them. The expense I go to............ )

12 servings:
473 calories
24 grams of fat
36 carbs

 

[ducklite]

As I said I was just guessing at the serving size. But, I reduced it to 12 servings for the whole recipe. That would be 6 servings per pound of meat and bag of tater tots. Sounds like it would be a big enough serving for a teen or adult. Here is what it would come to (and I had to dig in my garbage at work to find the paper I wrote the figures on in order to recalculate them. The expense I go to............ )

12 servings:
473 calories
24 grams of fat
36 carbs

That's a LOT of fat for 473 calories.

cheeseburger
300 calories
12 grams of fat
33 carbs

small fry
250 calories
13 grams of fat
30 carbs

It's a higher percentage of fat per calorie than the cheeseburger and fries!

Anne

 

[transparant]

All I know is - I have 6 kids and when I call the youngest - I literally go down the list of names before I get to his. My kids are Rick, Steve, Julia, Olivia, Isabel and Luke. So when calling Luke - it sounds more like "Ri, Ste, Jul, Liv, Is -LUKE!" I can't imagine what calling their youngest is like!

Than again don't they have all "J" names? So I guess it just sounds like a massive stutter!

 

[DznyLvr2005]

The bolding is mine
The Duggars are not the family with the court reporting company. That is another family with 15 children(I believe) that TLC featured. I believe their name was Arndt.

Where they the ones that were all on the baseball team??
See I don't have so much of a problem with those people.. at least they go out and do things and wear normal clothes and don't take care of the younger kids like the mother should be doing. I think if I'm correct, she had all boys. Still it's wierd to have so many kids, but they don't seem like they are the culty sorta people like the Duggars.

Ya know.. I'm suprised with how religious they are, that they allow their life to be filmed on TV.
Did you see that episode when they had the interior designer come in to set up their new house. She was dressed all 'normal' with jeans and high heeled boots. I thought Mrs duggar was gonna pass out when she opened up the door and saw her.

 

[Heidict]

That's a LOT of fat for 473 calories.



It's a higher percentage of fat per calorie than the cheeseburger and fries!

Anne

Now why do you have to come along and ruin everything!! I wasn't even looking at the percentage.

Cheeseburger and fries sounds better then tater tot casserole anyway.

 

[disneymom3]

But, yes they are getting us to pay for it, they are just slicker at it than most. They claim their house is a church and therefore do not pay taxes on it and there are many, many other tax breaks they get.

Ragarding this, my BIL was a principal at a Christian elementary school. He was considered a minister of education. They were able to write off their property taxes and mortgage and all kinds of things for their home. Such as throw pillows, flowers for the garden, candles, you name it. Then they also were able to deduct their mortgage interest and their property taxes off of my SISTER's income as well. Anyone who is in ministry in a recgonized church qualifies for all of these deductions so it is not because of their house being a church perse but rather being designated as a minister.

Ok, you made me look. Their website says #17 will be a girl named Jennifer due July 28. Holy cow!!

I too wonder how you end up with girls named stupid things like Joy-Hanna and johanna or whatever the heck without using up the normal names like Jennifer, Jill and Julie first. THAT is weird!

As for the big family thing--this thread is really getting me to wondering if my older sisters all resent me secretly! I am the youngest of 8 and when I was 14 days old, my parents went to Vegas for a weekend. They left me in the care of my older sibs. In kindergarten they left me and my 10 year old sister in the care of my 18 and 16 year old sibs. They all seem to like me

 

[meandtheguys2]

Just wait 'til they write the book, Julie...THEN you'll know the truth!

 

[Beth E. (NJ)]

They use all J names so none of the kids will feel left out. Really! Michelle said they started with a j name for the 1st one and then the second because they liked it, but at some point they thought "what if this is the last child and she/he has a name that's different. Would the child feel bad?" So they keep going with the J names.

For me, I just can't imagine going some place iwth all of them. The transportation is more than I can imagine. And the supermarket I guess having the older ones there would help but going with just my 2 is enough to make me crazy and they are 12 and 8 years old.

I can't imagine going out to dinner with the whole gang!

And I'm sure when they get married it will be to people from their church or the camp they go to -- similar minded families.

 

[DznyLvr2005]

And I'm sure when they get married it will be to people from their church or the camp they go to -- similar minded families.

But that's the thing! They don't GO to church.. The "church" is their house! I don't think they are allowed to go to camp. They aren't allowed to get dirty!
I'll never forget, one of the last shows I saw of them, one of the little boys was dragging in the huge garbage can. that was his job. I felt horribly bad, he was only 5 years old!!! Kids should be playing, especially that young, not taking out and in the garbage!!